-9 and -10 list

[Bouwzie]

-10

Spoiler

Aaron Ramsey - Arsenal

-9

Spoiler

Tony Trindade de Vilhena – 16 – Feyenoord
Adryan – 16 – Flamengo
Raheem Sterling - 16 - Liverpool
Nathaniel Chalobah - 16 Chelsea
Robbie Cotton - 16 - Blackburn Rovers
Adam Campbell - 16 - Newcastle United
Nathan Ake - 16 - Chelsea
Ricardo Kishna - 16 - Ajax
Lorenzo Tassi - 16 - Internazionale
Souleymane Coulibaly - 16 - Tottenham
Bruma - 16 - Sporting (POR)
Tomas Podstawski - 16 - FCP
Joel Valencia - 16 - R. Zaragoza B
Jean Marie Dongou - 16 - Barcelona B
Muhammed Demirci - 16 - Besiktas JK
Andy Polo - 16 - Club Universitario de Deportes
Mbaye Niang - 16 - Stade Malherbe Caen
Hervin Ongenda - 16 - PSG
Romario - 17 - EC Vitoria
Vitinho - 17 - Botafogo FR
Mateo Kovacic - 17 - GNK Dinamo
Alex Chamberlain - 17 - Arsenal
Zeli Ismail - 17 - Wolverhampton
Jack Robinson - 17 - Liverpool
Ross Barkley - 17 - Everton
Anass Achahbar - 17 - Feyenoord
Amato Ciciretti - 17 - AS Roma
Giuseppe Prestia - 17 - Palermo
Daniele Rugani - 17 - Empoli
Carlos Fierro - 17 - CD Guadalajara
Tobias Figueiredo - 17 - Sporting (POR)
Fabian Himcinschi - 17 - Empoli
Laurentiu Branescu - 17 - Juventus
Gerard Deulofeu - 17 - Barcelona B
Denis - 17 - Manchester City
Bryan Rabello - 17 - CSD Colo Colo
Lenny Nangis - 17 - Stade Malherbe Caen
Abdallah Yaisien - 17 - PSG
Emre Can - 17 - Bayern Munchen II
Romelu Lukaku - 18 - Chelsea
Wellington Silva - 18 - Arsenal
Felipe Anderson - 18 - Santos
Leandro - 18 - Gremio FBPA
Tomas Kalas - 18 - Chelsea
Connor Wickham - 18 - Sunderland
Ravel Morrison - 18 - Manchester United
Josh McEachran - 18 - CHelsea
Jack Butland - 18- Birmingham City
Luc Castaignos - 18 - F.C. Internazionale
Zakaria Labyad - 18 - PSV
Stephan El Shaarawy - 18 - AC Milan
Lorenzo Crisetig - 18 - Internazionale
Erick Torres - 18 - CD Guadalajara
Tiago Ilori - 18 - Sporting (POR)
Jano - 18 - Spartak Moscow
Borja - 18 - Atletico B
Iker Munian - 18 - Athletic Club
Rafinha - 18 - Barcelona B
Juanmi - 18 - Malaga
Jese - 18 - R. Madrid Castilla
Juan Iturbe - 18 - FCP
Yaya Sanogo - 18 - Auxerre
Alphonse Areola - 18 - PSG
Paul Pogba - 18 - Manchester United
Raphael Varane - 18 - Real Madrid
Erik Lamela - 19 - AS Roma
David Alaba - 19 - Bayern Munchen
Thibaut Courtois - 19 - Chelsea
Luis Guilherme - 19 - Botafogo FR
Roberto Firmino - 19 - Hoffenheim
Vaclav Kadlec - 19 - Sparta Prague
Christian Eriksen - 19 - AFC Ajax
Jordan Ayew - 19 - Marseille
Marc-Andre ter Stegen - 19 - Borussia Monchengladbach
Kyriakos Papadopoulos - 19 - Schalke 04
Nelson Oliviera - 19 - Benfica
Nika Kvekveskiri - 19 - Dinamo Tbilisi
Pablo Sarabia - 19 - Getafe
Marc Muniesa - 19 - Barcelona B
Isco - 19 - Malaga
Diego Polenta - 19 - Genoa
Tolga Cigerci - Wolfsburg
Heung-Min Son - 19 - Hamburger SV
Xherdan Shaqiri - 19 - Basel
Facundo Ferreyra - 20 - Banfield
Dedryck Boyata - 20 - Manchester City
Gael Kakuta - 20 - Chelsea
Francis Coquelin - 20 - Arsenal
Roderick Miranda - 20 - Benfica
Lacina Traore - 20 - Kuban Krasnodar
Thiago - 20 - Barcelona
Antoine Griezmann - 20 - Real Sociedad
Felipe Gutierrez - 20 - CD Universidad Catolica
Andre Schurrle - 20 - Bayer Leverkusen
Fabio - 21 - Manchester United
Vladimir Weiss - 21 - Manchester City
Daniel Sturridge - 21 - Chelsea
Gylfi Sigurosson - 21 - Hoffenheim
Wojciech Szczesny - 21 - Arsenal
Alan Dzagoev - 21 - CSKA Moscow
Sebastien Toro - 21 - Colo Colo
Chung-Yong Lee - 23 - Bolton Wanderers

 

[LFCMarshall]

How in the world is Ramsey the Only one in the whole world!

Alot of players better than him with more potential

 

[Bouwzie]

Yeah was pretty surprised at that myself. Also found out that the 16 year-old players mostly have random attributes, which is pretty disappointing.

 

[deanc123]

What does -9 and -10 mean?

 

[mkw101]

At the start of a career, the PA is randomly generated between an upper and lower bound (eg. 170-200) that is based on the negative number.

 

[Rime]

Adnan Januzaj??

 

[Bouwzie]

Adnan Januzaj??

He's a

Spoiler

-8

 

[willster947]

pretty much the same as fm 11 patch 11.1.....

 

[Germaniac]

Jack Wilshere and Mario Goetze?

 

[lordtom]

So, what's with Saúl Niguez, Álvaro Morata, Sergi Roberto, and the other fine youth players? LOL

 

[e16860]

Jack Wilshere and Mario Goetze?

They have set PA's so they are no longer listed in the -9 group.

 

[Athe~]

The fact that Ramsey not only has -10 potential (-9 would be fine but -10? Really?), but is still the only -10 player is shocking, really.

 

[Germaniac]

They have set PA's so they are no longer listed in the -9 group.

What's their PA? I haven't got FM2012

 

[madmonkey]

quite easy to find them all using the editor. there are 101 -9 players and just the one -10

 

[Billy]

I heard early on that Ramsey would be -10 for this instalment, but I expected it changed to be honest. He's hardly set the world alight since his return.

 

[Mads2506]

What in the actual ****.

---------- Post added at 08:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:26 PM ----------

Jack Wilshere and Mario Goetze?

They have set PA. ie they can't have as much as Ramsey potentially, but on average they will have higher PA.

 

[Calum]

go on Rambo :wub:

 

[hammer104]

How can josh mceachran be -9 and not Jonjo Shelvey!? Jonjo is going to be a beast (already is)

 

[MarcLUFC]

so basically every talented youngster in the world is rated as an average to good prospect, bar Aaron Ramsey? ridiculous. i mean Sturridge -9? really? and Thiago? Chung Yong Lee?

 

[craiigman]

what do they mean?