Barcelona's Pep Guardiola 'on brink of leaving club'

[maxy67]

BBC Sport - Barcelona's Pep Guardiola 'on brink of leaving club'

Massive news.

Any thoughts on what he'll do next, and who the next manager will be?

 

[Mike.]

Sabbatical, said last year there were parallels with Sacchi's Milan. He is totally burnt out.

No idea who it will be though.

 

[apvmoreira]

He will be a nobody without that team

 

[Montanaro]

arsenal

 

[Mike.]

He will be a nobody without that team

Well that's a load of rot, for a start. Considering what he has achieved in 3 years, and before that since he was the youth and reserve team coach, helping some of the current player emerge, and the new talent emerging as he leaves, he will certainly be more than nothing. There are a fair few parallels there with Saachi. Considering Chelsea already wanted him, and that he has already been tipped as one of SAF's successors, he's already far from a nobody without that side.

 

[JDY]

I agree with Mike but atleast at his next club we will see how good he actually is.

 

[Mike.]

I agree with Mike but atleast at his next club we will see how good he actually is.

Best example of this is SAF, there are better top tacticians, there are better top transfer men, there are better top youth spotter. But very few managers have all this rolled into one package at a consistently high level.

Pep isn't some godly coach, but he is also better than his detractors make out, namely because they ignore the work he did in the reserves etc. Will he win 15 trophies at his next club? No. Anyone who expects that is crazy, Barcelona was a perfect storm, and even that wasn't sustainable. But the next side will be his true acid test, and what takes him from a good coach to a great one.

 

[Tyton]

I'll believe it when i see it, people need to stop acting like reaching CL half-final is some sort of catastrophic failure. Failure was MU not making it out of group stages, Barca still did fine, Chelsea wasnt exactly outplaying them. These guys are most dominating group of players on club and national level we will propably see in our lifetime, but its a sport not math, you cant always have the same result.


But i think Pep will do fine, as long as he can survive the transition to managing less capable side (and everything will be less capable after this one). Sacchi struggled with this and hasnt been doing that good ever since Milan first booted him.

 

[craiglowerson1984]

Maybe Pepe is thinking the Spanish national job could possible become available after the euro's?? Only a thort

 

[maxy67]

Maybe Pepe is thinking the Spanish national job could possible become available after the euro's?? Only a thort

A Catalan quitting Barcelona for the Spanish national job? I don't think so.

 

[zzeezzy]

Arsene Wenger is in the run in for the Barcelona job, lets see how loyal he really is.

Maybe Pepe is thinking the Spanish national job could possible become available after the euro's?? Only a thort

No, he said back in 2011 he was going to leave Barcelona and then take a break before trying at another club. I think he always from the start had in mind to test his management in the Premier League, which is admirable because he is a man who wants to prove himself even more, although he had virtually everything at Barcelona and could of stayed there.

 

[maxy67]

Arsene Wenger is in the run in for the Barcelona job, lets see how loyal he really is.



No, he said back in 2011 he was going to leave Barcelona and then take a break before trying at another club. I think he always from the start had in mind to test his management in the Premier League, which is admirable because he is a man who wants to prove himself even more, although he had virtually everything at Barcelona and could of stayed there.

He seems to being linked more with Serie A, than the Premiership. Both Milan and Inter are showing open interest in him.

 

[ajt09]

He will be a nobody without that team

Absolute garbage. Never heard so much **** in such a short sentence.

Wherever he goes, he'll be just as successful. Two champions league titles in four seasons is quite a stunning achievement by anyones book, regardless of what players are there. And he also has age on his side, so he'll have so much time to achieve so much more. He has an outstanding future ahead of him. Simple as.

 

[San Adam]

Im a Madrid fan but he is a fantastic manager and the fact he's leaving make's me very optimistic for the future because Barca will struggle without him anyone would miss his quality as he is a perfectionist and you could see that in how his team played!

 

[debsicus]

BREAKING NEWS: Tito Vilanova replaces Guardiola as Barcelona coach - Goal.com

 

[JDY]

Best example of this is SAF, there are better top tacticians, there are better top transfer men, there are better top youth spotter. But very few managers have all this rolled into one package at a consistently high level.

Pep isn't some godly coach, but he is also better than his detractors make out, namely because they ignore the work he did in the reserves etc. Will he win 15 trophies at his next club? No. Anyone who expects that is crazy, Barcelona was a perfect storm, and even that wasn't sustainable. But the next side will be his true acid test, and what takes him from a good coach to a great one.

Indeed, wasn't taking anything away from him. Your last sentence sums up what I was trying to say.

 

[apvmoreira]

Absolute garbage. Never heard so much **** in such a short sentence.

Wherever he goes, he'll be just as successful. Two champions league titles in four seasons is quite a stunning achievement by anyones book, regardless of what players are there. And he also has age on his side, so he'll have so much time to achieve so much more. He has an outstanding future ahead of him. Simple as.

Well that's a load of rot, for a start. Considering what he has achieved in 3 years, and before that since he was the youth and reserve team coach, helping some of the current player emerge, and the new talent emerging as he leaves, he will certainly be more than nothing. There are a fair few parallels there with Saachi. Considering Chelsea already wanted him, and that he has already been tipped as one of SAF's successors, he's already far from a nobody without that side.

Did i touch something that it hurts?

Im not taking the credit of what he did, im just saying that he will not achieve half in the future because he's too immerse in the Barça philosophy. The same as Messi. Great player, no doubt, but without Xavi he simply cant achieve what he have right now. Just look at him playing for Argentina.

To be great you need to achieve chalenging things in diferent enviroments, like Trapattoni, or as many poeple says here in the forum "to manage Barcelona and win is no big deal"

 

[W4FC B3N]

Did i touch something that it hurts?

Im not taking the credit of what he did, im just saying that he will not achieve half in the future because he's too immerse in the Barça philosophy. The same as Messi. Great player, no doubt, but without Xavi he simply cant achieve what he have right now. Just look at him playing for Argentina.

To be great you need to achieve chalenging things in diferent enviroments, like Trapattoni, or as many poeple says here in the forum "to manage Barcelona and win is no big deal"

Agree with the Messi part, but Pep has so far only had the chance with 1 team, he has years ahead of him and with the experience of winning these league titles and Champions League trophies, that can only help him towards becoming a real great.

 

[maxy67]

Did i touch something that it hurts?

Im not taking the credit of what he did, im just saying that he will not achieve half in the future because he's too immerse in the Barça philosophy. The same as Messi. Great player, no doubt, but without Xavi he simply cant achieve what he have right now. Just look at him playing for Argentina.

To be great you need to achieve chalenging things in diferent enviroments, like Trapattoni, or as many poeple says here in the forum "to manage Barcelona and win is no big deal"

Any player needs good players around him to excel. Even Marradona at Napoli and with Argentina, had great players with him. And the last game i saw him play for Argentina he scored a hat-trick.

 

[Mike.]

Did i touch something that it hurts?

Im not taking the credit of what he did, im just saying that he will not achieve half in the future because he's too immerse in the Barça philosophy. The same as Messi. Great player, no doubt, but without Xavi he simply cant achieve what he have right now. Just look at him playing for Argentina.

To be great you need to achieve chalenging things in diferent enviroments, like Trapattoni, or as many poeple says here in the forum "to manage Barcelona and win is no big deal"

Nope, juts pointing out that your original sentence was a load of nonsense

Of course he wont win half, Barcelona was a perfect storm, and even that has lasted less than 3 years. To expect him or anyone to win 15 in 3 years again is ridiculous. But saying he will be nothing without Barcelona, which is what you said, is utter rubbish.

To manage Barca and win is a big deal, but it isnt the full test. But it still doesnt make him nothing.