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Scotland will lose one of their two Champions League places from the season after next, the Scottish Premier League have confirmed.

Thursday night's Europa League results for Belgian clubs saw them overtake Scotland into 15th spot in Uefa's co-efficient ranking table.

A fall to 16th also means the 2010-11 SPL champions will not qualify automatically for the following season's Champions League group stage.

They will instead have to navigate three qualifying rounds, though all matches will be against champions from smaller European nations rather than runners-up or third and fourth-placed sides from larger countries.

But the loss of a Champions League spot is potentially a huge blow to Rangers and Celtic, who published their half-yearly accounts this week in which the difference between reaching the group stage and failing to do so was laid bare.

Next season will see both the SPL winners and runners-up in the Champions League, with the runners-up facing two qualifying rounds, the second of which could be against one of the giants of the European game.

"Our clubs are sorted for next season. It's for the season after that that Belgium are now above us," said an SPL spokesman.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11787_5959632,00.html

This isn't very good for Celtic and Rangers, will be tough for them to qualify for group stages now, performed very poorly in European competitions this year though.
 
Ok, Scottish football is not in it's best shape, but both Celtic and Rangers are still massive clubs, just needing a massive wake up call. Tony Mowbray doesn't have a clue and Rangers are skint but have just announced massive profits recently, I predict that when this decision kicks in, in couple of years time, both clubs will be big again.
Walter Smith will probably be retired with Rangers youngsters eg. John Fleck, Danny Wilson starring in the first team with bags of experience, both are top quality. Undoubtedly, Rangers will have next to nothing in terms of debt and will have a few strong, financial backers.
On the other hand, Tony Mowbray will be bagged as Celtic manager, Dermot Desmond will take his finger out his **** and dig deep and make some new signings, alongside a new manager.
I think FIFA should have waited some time longer or at least temporarily remove them, starting now to give them some time to get their acts together.
 
They don't deserve 2 spots
Half the teams in prem are better than them now :S
 
bravo21 said:
I think FIFA should have waited some time longer or at least temporarily remove them, starting now to give them some time to get their acts together.
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its not about waiting longer or giving them a chance. its a rule.

once your countries coefficient falls below the top 15 nations you lose qualification places, simple as that.

if scottish football didnt want this to happen it should have planned ahead, its been coming for a long time
 
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Very happy with this. Their are better teams than celtic and rangers in countrys like romania, russia, czech republic etc.
 
Has been coming for a while and is fully deserved.

Alot of the problems has been teams like Queen of the South,Gretna,Dunfermlane etc getting into Europe for being Scottish Cup runner up.

Cannot see anything changing soon either. Teams from lesser nations have come in this year and done ok. Unirea,BATE,Rubin etc

Dark times.
 
its been coming for a while but it could turn into a blessling, it will wake up the runner up to spend more each year and eventually scotland will be 15th again. just been rubbish recently not 2 years ago rangers were in eufa final and celtic last 16. so its not like its all doom and gloom i blame scottish cup runners up over the last few years.... they have been all been thumped no-matter who they played
 
it's stupid how these work... i say there should be 2 places available in each country, for the League winners and the National Cup winners (or beaten finalists if need be). after all, it is the CHAMPION's league. then the Europa League takes the 2nd place and Cup runners-up (or 3rd place in the league).
 
MarcLUFC said:
it's stupid how these work... i say there should be 2 places available in each country, for the League winners and the National Cup winners (or beaten finalists if need be). after all, it is the CHAMPION's league. then the Europa League takes the 2nd place and Cup runners-up (or 3rd place in the league).
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I want the best teams in the world to be in the champions league and if it was only the champions from each country the tournament would be much less competitive.
 
I wouldn't say Rangers or Celtic are better than Standard Liege tbh.
 
Belgian League. Name two prominent teams from that league

Standard Liege

and

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Haha I had an argument along the exact same lines about 2 hours ago with a guy at my school. Scotland don't deserve the places, through a combination of underperforming and having woeful teams (by European standards - no offence QoS :p) they have fallen quite rightly behind other nations in the co-efficients. It does not matter about the stature of the clubs, if other nations have played better (Romania, Belgium etc) then they shouldn't get the automatic places.

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Also Anderlecht are a Belgian team. I'm sure you've heard of them.
 
andid1 said:
I want the best teams in the world to be in the champions league and if it was only the champions from each country the tournament would be much less competitive.
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how about the big leagues England/Spain/Italy/Germany/France/Portugal/Holland/Turkey/Russia get 2 each, then there are 14 "Wildcards" handed out to other nations based on domestic performance? it'd still have 8 groups of 4 in the first round, with all the statistically best teams in Europe from the year before. can't see that weakening the competition myself.

edt: just realised you need 32 teams, obviously...
 
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oh yeah, Anderlecht. Celtic would moon them any day
 
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