About young player progression

[Kreeshak]

I would like feedback from those that develop players or regens.

*** What affects his progression from most to least?

1) Training facilities?
2) Coaching quality?
3) Getting first team games?
4) Hidden attributes? Which? (ambition? determination? other?)
How would you rate those in order of importance?

*** Also, can a 60 current ability 170 potential ability player reach his potential within one season? How much progression should I expect per season?

*** Also who is better a 130-140 potential ability player with the correct attributes for his role OR a 180 current ability player with abysmal attributes for his role?

*** Finally what would you recommend? Selecting for first team an average player that can't progress much but is better than the younger player?, or a worse young player that has a much better future?

 

[unbreakable212]

These aren't definite answers, just what I've had the most success with (On my schalke save my 18 year old LB is first choice for the German side, 12 caps to his name, valued at a whopping 29Million already and developed him extremely quickly within 1/2 seasons from 16 years old.)

I think it's something like this 1) Training & Youth Facilities 2) Certain Hidden Attributes, determination, ambition & injury proneness and progress rate (The star symbols) 3) Coaching quality and lastly 4) Getting first team time , again this might not be technically correct, just what I've found to be more important.

I don't think it's possible for a player to go from 60 CA to 130 CA in one season, let alone upto 170. Could be wrong, but I imagine he'd have to be on an intense training schedule and playing every single game to even try and he'd likely get struck down by injury before that.

Player with lower PA/CA that is suited to the role will perform better than a highly rated player. Have a regen that is an AMR, 20 finishing, 18 composure etc etc, thought he'd be perfect as a striker, began retraining and playing him there but no dice, barely scored as a striker whereas he was banging them in as an AMR. That's what I've noticed at least.

Depends the importance of the match & if it's a vital role on the pitch. If it's against much weaker opposition or I've won the league (thus making more points well... pointless) then yes, I'll give as much game time to youngsters with a high PA over the players that have already reached max potential. Hope this helps, again this is all just personal experience/preferences, sorry for the wall of text.

 

[Kreeshak]

These aren't definite answers, just what I've had the most success with (On my schalke save my 18 year old LB is first choice for the German side, 12 caps to his name, valued at a whopping 29Million already and developed him extremely quickly within 1/2 seasons from 16 years old.)

I think it's something like this 1) Training & Youth Facilities 2) Certain Hidden Attributes, determination, ambition & injury proneness and progress rate (The star symbols) 3) Coaching quality and lastly 4) Getting first team time , again this might not be technically correct, just what I've found to be more important.

I don't think it's possible for a player to go from 60 CA to 130 CA in one season, let alone upto 170. Could be wrong, but I imagine he'd have to be on an intense training schedule and playing every single game to even try and he'd likely get struck down by injury before that.

Player with lower PA/CA that is suited to the role will perform better than a highly rated player. Have a regen that is an AMR, 20 finishing, 18 composure etc etc, thought he'd be perfect as a striker, began retraining and playing him there but no dice, barely scored as a striker whereas he was banging them in as an AMR. That's what I've noticed at least.

Depends the importance of the match & if it's a vital role on the pitch. If it's against much weaker opposition or I've won the league (thus making more points well... pointless) then yes, I'll give as much game time to youngsters with a high PA over the players that have already reached max potential. Hope this helps, again this is all just personal experience/preferences, sorry for the wall of text.

thanks for the feedback. appreciate it

 

[bornexplorer88]

I would like feedback from those that develop players or regens.

*** What affects his progression from most to least?

1) Training facilities?
2) Coaching quality?
3) Getting first team games?
4) Hidden attributes? Which? (ambition? determination? other?)
How would you rate those in order of importance?

*** Also, can a 60 current ability 170 potential ability player reach his potential within one season? How much progression should I expect per season?

*** Also who is better a 130-140 potential ability player with the correct attributes for his role OR a 180 current ability player with abysmal attributes for his role?

*** Finally what would you recommend? Selecting for first team an average player that can't progress much but is better than the younger player?, or a worse young player that has a much better future?

How To Develop Youth In FM 2014 • FM 2014 Stories

This guide will help you alot pal. I'd trust Darren with my youth!!

 

[TJD07]

For me personally.
1) First team football is by far the biggest thing, get a regen ST put 30+ goals away in a season and you'll see how quickly first team football alone can drive a player forward. That being said I do feel it's fairly position dependent, attacking players I've noticed tend to improve faster from first team football than others unless they're playing really well.

2) Professionalism and Ambition, in terms of player development these are the two big stats, sadly both are hidden. Determination actually has no direct impact on player development, where it does come into play is with first team football. Morale is less likely to drop and they tend to perform better throughout a season, which can give the impression that it's directly impacting player development because the better first team football and morale is improving them faster.

3) Facilities

4) Coaches


Most progress I've seen in a single season is 40ish but that was again from a ST tearing the league apart, on average aim for 15-20 or so on key young players that get decent amounts of football.

The 130-140 PA with perfect attributes for his role will always be better, numerous examples of this in game too. Candreva as an inside forward and Shane Long are probably my two favorite players and neither have particularly amazing PA.

Both if you can, play the better player for important matches and give the younger one the easier games and 20-30minutes towards the end of games you have pretty much won. Depends a lot on how big the gap between the two is though also, if there isn't much difference between them with the one only being a slight upgrade just stick with the one with the higher potential.

 

[Kreeshak]

For me personally.
1) First team football is by far the biggest thing, get a regen ST put 30+ goals away in a season and you'll see how quickly first team football alone can drive a player forward. That being said I do feel it's fairly position dependent, attacking players I've noticed tend to improve faster from first team football than others unless they're playing really well.

2) Professionalism and Ambition, in terms of player development these are the two big stats, sadly both are hidden. Determination actually has no direct impact on player development, where it does come into play is with first team football. Morale is less likely to drop and they tend to perform better throughout a season, which can give the impression that it's directly impacting player development because the better first team football and morale is improving them faster.

3) Facilities

4) Coaches


Most progress I've seen in a single season is 40ish but that was again from a ST tearing the league apart, on average aim for 15-20 or so on key young players that get decent amounts of football.

The 130-140 PA with perfect attributes for his role will always be better, numerous examples of this in game too. Candreva as an inside forward and Shane Long are probably my two favorite players and neither have particularly amazing PA.

Both if you can, play the better player for important matches and give the younger one the easier games and 20-30minutes towards the end of games you have pretty much won. Depends a lot on how big the gap between the two is though also, if there isn't much difference between them with the one only being a slight upgrade just stick with the one with the higher potential.

thanks again!