Any really obvious issues with this tactic?

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Consistently losing despite generally controlling games, making chances and scoring goals. We are almost always (apart from against the big teams) the better team in a game, but keep having 2/3-goal collapses or conceding like 2 in the last 10 mins.

We are atrocious defensively, so I'm looking for a little help.

N.B. newly promoted team, so quality of players is slightly below average for the league + I have a very small squad.

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do you ever change mentality? like in game once you take the lead? or do you generally just stay the same?

I'm talking more specifically when the AI may change their tactics to go more offensive if you have taken the lead

also I haven't played in a while but having drop deeper is encouraging your team to drop off and maintian their position but then having hassle opponents will encourage them to then stray from this defensive position and may leave holes behind which teams will exploit. this is only my interpretation though so people who are more experienced with this years engine will advise better.

I would also reccomend downloadintg a suitable tactic off the forum just to see if things improve and you may also see which combinations work better for your team
 
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Generally not because I always think I'm just asking them to score if I change to counter/defensive at half time. We are normally leading at half time and then get battered in the 2nd half.

Yeah I was thinking that, not sure if standing off opponents would just encourage them onto me though and I'd concede more.

Really annoys me that with FM14 you need to be some kind of tactical genius to have any kind of success
 
How do you concede most often (throughballs, corners, long shots etc)? You play rigid so you only have 3 real defenders as rigid only tells player to strictly stick to their roles. Since you have very few specialist roles in Your team, you are better of playing fluid or standard which means that the other roles will do their part on defense as well.

You do not need to be a tactical genius but you do have to understand the Match Engine.
 
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Generally not because I always think I'm just asking them to score if I change to counter/defensive at half time. We are normally leading at half time and then get battered in the 2nd half.

Yeah I was thinking that, not sure if standing off opponents would just encourage them onto me though and I'd concede more.

Really annoys me that with FM14 you need to be some kind of tactical genius to have any kind of success
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I wouldn't say you have to be a tactical genius buthave to follow footballing logic so to speak, the thing is this is just first impressions from your tactic but when you change to defensive/counter it doesn't strike me as you have an obvious ball winner. I would maybe look at that. me personally I always play counter mentality then adjust but thats just personal playstyle.

If you want the team to press I would maybe try some individual instructions and get your more forward players doing the pressing then get your more defensive ones to standoff. It could be that your players can't cut it at this level also.

I'm guessing your morale is taking a battering too with the losses so try to keep it up there are various threads on that if you are not sure.

I notice you got more yellow cards is this a recurrant theme or just one off in that game? this could be with a deep defensive line then players rush out to press thus putting more pressure on your defense and leaving them no alternative to commit a foul. I'd maybe not start out as drop deeper and start higher up and try an nominate a ball winner in midefield
 
Right I give up this is getting ridiculous.

I implemented some of your suggestion (changed to standard fluidity, took away hassle opponents shout), and got a solid and deserved 2-0 win away at Ajax CT.

Go into a home match next, with the new and improved tactic, go 1-0 up. Everything looking rosy. Then this happens.

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I mean what the ****? We played as well as each other. And it's worth noting that they had loads of goal mouth scrambles from corners so all of their CCC's except one were from corners (they scored from 2 of them). EVEN THOUGH I have had match training on defending set pieces since I joined the club and have instructions set up for defending corners.

This makes absolutely no sense to me how we can go away to a top 4 side and win 2-0 easily and then play well at home and lose 6-3. This is why you need to be a tactical genius in FM14 because nothing f***ing works. Ever.
 
Am I missing something here? Here's another example of this great match engine we have. Dominated them. They score from 2 corners, a penalty and a free kick to win it with the last kick of the game.

This is getting silly.

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Please someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here because clearly I can't see it
 
The patch is awful, so it's not your fault. I can't believe that, by the first of March, they decide to fix an ME that was working fine.
 
The game is becoming unplayable since the latest patch. I had only one problem on the last patch (unhealthy amount of corners conceded) but now it is a huge case of missing very easy chances.

I normally defend the game against people who worthless criticism (just throw insults at SI and anyone who opposes their abuse) and people who post tactics which they've downloaded and say "y dont dis game work!!11!! while having downloaded "Super Barcelona possession" while playing as Mansfield.

But I understand your problem OP. It is evident it isn't your tactics. You are creating chances but for some bizarre reason you miss all of them while the AI scores nearly all of theirs.

The patch they released has solved one huge problem but created another one in its place. I am dumbfounded as to how this could happen. Whether or not SI release a patch sorting this glaring problem out is unbeknownst to everyone but probably best not that they do release one because they may create another huge bug.

How a game that has been released for 4 or so months still have huge bugs is unforgivable.
 
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