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DaveMurray23

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I just don't get it on this version. Is it a glitch? Are we awaiting a patch to resolve.

I'm Everton and I'm flying. Just entered January and 2nd in the league, cruising in Europe all in 1st season but can't stop conceding goals. I have great coaching but no matter what the intensity I train or what tactics I use I've kept about 4 clean sheets. Driving me insane and taking the fun away from it.

That and the stupid 'Manager lacks credibility' from the players despite consistent unbeaten form.

help!!
 
I think the Manager lacks credibility comment is something youll have to face until you have silverware under your belt, its more about reputation rather than form. For defending, even with bigger teams in EPL its really tough to keep clean sheets this time, not sure if it reflects how competitive the league is or not but defending in my first season with any EPL club, it has been tough to keep clean sheets (had saves with Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Southampton). I think its dependent on the playing style as well, i dont mind conceding because i know how attacking my style is, maybe try to play a possession style football with deep defensive line and a dedicated ball winning mid as DM in your formation.

The DM certainly helps and 4-2-3-1 is just too attacking for clean sheets. a CM playing DLP is not defensive enough anymore for a clean sheet, especially on support.
 
Just seems ridiculous that unless you play a deep defensive line you cannot keep regular clean sheets. You're more or less defined by the game rather than being creative with your tactics. Especially when playing teams in bottom 3 for example, they haven't scored in 700 hours but manage 2 against me and I scrape to a 3-2 win!
Law of averages alone says you have to get some clean sheets not 1 in 12!! Beginning to think this will be resolved in the update as 90% of the goals are set pieces/own goals

what was your clean sheet ratio with those saves??
 
Theres a hotfix just released for crosses and own goals, and there are threads on how to defend set pieces, added to of course regular match prep on defending set pieces. Highest clean sheets was of course Chelsea, but I had only 6 clean sheets in the entire season with utd, conceded 45 goals but scored 120 so won the league easily even with a **** defence. Don't keep your hopes up for more than 10 clean sheets in the first season, but those types of goals can be prevented, search for other threads on how to stop them.

Also, post screenshots of your tactic, team instructions, player instructions, training history (the pie chart on the training screen) so itll be easier to analyze what you can change
 
You have 2 defenders defending. That's it. The fullbacks are aggressive in pushing up, so will get caught out of position. Both your midfielders are going to leave their position to try and close down the ball-carrier, since that's their job. You don't have a holding midfielder covering these aggressive players!

It's fine if it works, but you're hopelessly exposed on the counter.
 
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I dose seem counter intuitive but Ball Wining Midfielders are quite offensive players since their goal is to win the ball back, not to prevent the ball being attacked. Changing one of your CM's to a CM(D) would offer more security as you've a man covering the back line as your other midfielder goes off chasing the ball.

If you want both of them casing the ball, you're going to need to bring the AMC back and play with an Anchor Man. to accommodate for your midfield having no shape. Your Wide backs are also not thinking defensively; they're ready to bomb forward to whip in a cross and like WJ said, you'll get horribly exposed on the counter.
 
WOw shocking you are in second place with such poor role selection for such a fluid tactics. very fluid with a lot of specialist roles.
BWMs are poor at protecting the back 4, cuz they aim at wining the ball as soon as possible.
Also hard to keep clean sheets if you try to play the same way against both Chelsea away and Burnley at home.
 
Not shocking - just that I have good firepower and effective attacking. Can't be that poor can it?

Kept the same formation - amended a CM to defend and full backs now are wing backs set to defend. Last 6 games have resulted in 4 clean sheets.

I am reluctant to drop players back into a DM role - because I always get the feedback of it's too big a gap between midfield and attack. Is there a good way to combat this?? I have natural players in the position but I am not willing to sacrifice Ross Barkley from his AM position.
 
Also, leave not training defending at set pieces for 1 week and all of a sudden you become dreadful at them?
 
DaveMurray23 said:
I am reluctant to drop players back into a DM role - because I always get the feedback of it's too big a gap between midfield and attack. Is there a good way to combat this?? I have natural players in the position but I am not willing to sacrifice Ross Barkley from his AM position.
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Leave one where he is and pull the other one back?
 
Been away for a few days but I've been giving your tactic some though. Up too you if you want to add any of my tips but they did help me.

Here's what I would do, I would put both CWB on support so they can help out the defence more and not get caught out in the other half leaving your wing wide open. Also if you want to hold onto a lead don't be afraid to put them on defend.

Change the defenders role to cover and stopper the fastest defender as cover and the one with the better concentration, concentration and marking to stopper.

Change the midfielder's roles as I guess your getting the message in some games that your midfield is being overrun. One too DLP defend as he will be the link between the defence and midfielder and will hold the line just in front of your defence. The other can be either a BTB, AP or CM all set too support. Use whichever one of on the three roles you like the best and this should hold you midfielder together nicely.
 
Clean sheets are hard to come by this time around, but I managed 10 in my first season with Leicester so I am happy with that, hopefully pick up a few more this season
 
Tightened up slightly. 8 of the last 20 games resulted in clean sheets which ultimately helped me win the league and Europa league.

Still prone to the odd thrashing and giving away really daft goals. The defending set pieces really bugs me, train for 10 weeks, take it off 1 week and we've not trained enough. That really is a bug and causes conceding.

Least i'm on the correct lines!
 
Try putting both centre backs on close down less, should stop them running out of position.
 
I improved my defending considerably from season 1 to season 2 with a couple of minor changes. I moved my DM from a DLP/S to a DLP/D and, in some games or when defending a tight lead, switched the fullbacks from being WB/A to FB/S.

After 33 league games I've let in just 17 goals, last season I let in 34. By being cleverer with the fullbacks I've also not dented the attacking play (86 goals last term, 76 so far in this).
 
That it is how i've gone - either DLP/D or R/D depending on who is playing.

My full backs are WB/S - what formation do you play, i'm 4-2-3-1.
 
With my tactic this year I've scored 102 and let in 26, league won, now onto the FA and Champion League finals.

Glad to here defend is doing well DaveMurray23, should try the centre backs close down less really help me :). Also do you use OI
 
I've just amended to close down less and i've kept 3 clean sheets in opening 3 games. Flying start!!

Whats OI?
 
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