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I'm managing Manchester United and most of the time, the matches end with my team having 20+ shots and 5-10 on target.

How is it that most of the players are missing sitters ?

To make matters worse, I just lost to Blackpool 5-2. Them having like 7-10 shots and all their shots on target going in.

Is there something I'm missing here ? Pulling my hair in frustration. Ughhh.
 
everyone's got the same issue. It's the match engine being broken. You can have Messi missing sitters 1v1 against the keeper 10 times a game, regardless of your instructions. Rounding the keeper does nothing either.

Very frustrating.
 
Harris4Ips said:
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/football-manager-2014-tactics/153859-harris-unstoppable-4-2-2-2-home-4-1-1-3-1-away-tactics.htmlView attachment 472732View attachment 472729Try this dude :)
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That looks great, but I'm not much of a fan of that mentality and tactic.

I usually play control/attacking with fluid mentality. But if it goes on I might give it a try.

KarlBr said:
everyone's got the same issue. It's the match engine being broken. You can have Messi missing sitters 1v1 against the keeper 10 times a game, regardless of your instructions. Rounding the keeper does nothing either.

Very frustrating.
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I see, I guess I'll just have to put up with it.

It's ridiculous how even if you set up your tactics to exploit the weaknesses in the opposing team from the team report, it sometimes doesn't even help.
 
eupheus said:
That looks great, but I'm not much of a fan of that mentality and tactic.

I usually play control/attacking with fluid mentality. But if it goes on I might give it a try.



I see, I guess I'll just have to put up with it.

It's ridiculous how even if you set up your tactics to exploit the weaknesses in the opposing team from the team report, it sometimes doesn't even help.
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Im the same as you dont worry, but it doesnt work on the game. I was forever refusing to give in and change my fast fluid attacking football.

Then i realised, you dont need fluid to play fluidly, you dont need attacking to play attacking.

Its how the team is lined up and whos playing.

All rigid and standard does, is makes me solid when defending
 
Simple solution for this is to use PPM s on the forward strikers ...that help to increase shot to goals ratio ...
 
jassar said:
Simple solution for this is to use PPM s on the forward strikers ...that help to increase shot to goals ratio ...
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I'm afraid it's not that simple, as strikers with PPMs like 'likes to lob keeper' or 'goes round the keeper' doesn't put away seemingly easy chances too.

However, my luck has been turning as I've been recording some decent wins. Starting to think it had something to do with either the tactic familiarity or player morale and confidence. But for now, RVP is on a goal drought. So I'm trying to play him back into form.
 
Strikers at time get marked out of the game, I prefer a striker who drops deep or a physical Target Man with "Shoots with Power" PPM. "Rounds the keeper" PPM doesn't seem to work.
 
I play RVP as a CF with support role, and Rooney sometimes as AP with attack role behind RVP or false nine alongside him.
 
Finishing this year is awful. I dominate games and the amount of my chances get saved and get put wide or cleared off the line is ridiculous. My striker gets around 30 to 40 a season but that could easily be 60 he misses so much.
 
Jaklol said:
Finishing this year is awful. I dominate games and the amount of my chances get saved and get put wide or cleared off the line is ridiculous. My striker gets around 30 to 40 a season but that could easily be 60 he misses so much.
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Honestly, if my strikers even get 30 a season consistently, I'd be extremely happy.
 
Still annoying though I have Carlos Fierro with rounds keeper and places shots but still he can't them on target or hits it too close to the keeper. It's even more annoying when your battering a team and he misses loads of sitters and you lose on the counter. But such is life.
 
Saying the match engine is broken is a cop out. I've certainly struggled with the game, but I've had strikers score over 30 goals in one season. I had Mitrovic who was on 24 goals in 19 games at one point. You've got to get the right balance through your whole team. I can dominate games and get loads of shots, but that doesn't make my team great. Look at Spurs under AVB this season, lots of shots, nae goals because they weren't penetrating properly. You've got to create clear scoring chances and have a striker who is composed enough and intelligent enough to finish them off.

I'm currently trying my hardest to get the Sturridge/Suarez partnership to work. I am playing Suarez in the AMC role as a Trequartista and Sturridge as a DLF support role. Between them they've got 21 goals with 14 assists at Xmas, not forgetting their combined 52 key passes. Not amazing, but I think if I get the wide players playing better, we'd have more goals.

I personally think that a strike partnership works better in this version of FM for goals.
 
jeid said:
Saying the match engine is broken is a cop out. I've certainly struggled with the game, but I've had strikers score over 30 goals in one season. I had Mitrovic who was on 24 goals in 19 games at one point. You've got to get the right balance through your whole team. I can dominate games and get loads of shots, but that doesn't make my team great. Look at Spurs under AVB this season, lots of shots, nae goals because they weren't penetrating properly. You've got to create clear scoring chances and have a striker who is composed enough and intelligent enough to finish them off.

I'm currently trying my hardest to get the Sturridge/Suarez partnership to work. I am playing Suarez in the AMC role as a Trequartista and Sturridge as a DLF support role. Between them they've got 21 goals with 14 assists at Xmas, not forgetting their combined 52 key passes. Not amazing, but I think if I get the wide players playing better, we'd have more goals.

I personally think that a strike partnership works better in this version of FM for goals.
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I agree but there's always a time when your players are creating clear cut chances but can't put them away.

It all comes down to something. It's either the players, tactics or the match engine.
 
eupheus said:
I agree but there's always a time when your players are creating clear cut chances but can't put them away.

It all comes down to something. It's either the players, tactics or the match engine.
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Fernando Torres... need I say more.

Clear cut chances do not equate to goals. We've been so used to this in the past, but reality is, not every CCC gets converted in real life.

Plus, if you look at the other strikers in the game who can score 30 goals a season, it proves it's not the match engine
 
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jeid said:
Fernando Torres... need I say more.

Clear cut chances do not equate to goals. We've been so used to this in the past, but reality is, not every CCC gets converted in real life.

Plus, if you look at the other strikers in the game who can score 30 goals a season, it proves it's not the match engine
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I don't mean to say the every CCC will be a goal. I meant to say at the start of this thread is that, the team as a collective group takes way too many improbable angle shots which mostly ends up going wide or over the top.

Even when they're through on goal, even the best strikers such as RVP or Rooney in my team would have their shots saved. I've never had a striker in the game score 30 goals a season so I wouldn't know what it's like.
 
eupheus said:
I don't mean to say the every CCC will be a goal. I meant to say at the start of this thread is that, the team as a collective group takes way too many improbable angle shots which mostly ends up going wide or over the top.

Even when they're through on goal, even the best strikers such as RVP or Rooney in my team would have their shots saved. I've never had a striker in the game score 30 goals a season so I wouldn't know what it's like.
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Improbably angle shots/long shots/shots that just seem ridiculous, are usually taken because the striker/player taking the shot, don't have a better option/player has poor decision making attribute. I'm not going to say that's right 100% of the time. When I watch football on the tv, I sometimes think that a pass should be made instead of a shot from distance. The game can be refined a bit, but I wouldn't say that the match engine is broken like many people are saying.

I'm really struggling with this version of FM and almost went back to FM13 a couple of weeks ago. I think there's improvements that could be made to the players intelligence when it comes to shooting/passing. In all honesty, giving the ball away/stupid passes frustrate me far more than not converting CCC's.
 
1. ME is not worse than previous versions people! I find its actually better cos it results in more exciting matches.
2. I find that this version I dont concede as many last minute goals as before.
3. Thru balls work quite well (the pass into space instruction)
4. Its easier to set up a reasonable tactic than before but its extremely difficult to make an all conquering plug and play tactic (isnt that a good thing?!). I mean in this version Estudiantes can beat Barcelona in the club world championship final in 2014!
5. You can actually show us your tactic and maybe we can help?
 
jeid said:
Saying the match engine is broken is a cop out. I've certainly struggled with the game, but I've had strikers score over 30 goals in one season. I had Mitrovic who was on 24 goals in 19 games at one point. You've got to get the right balance through your whole team. I can dominate games and get loads of shots, but that doesn't make my team great. Look at Spurs under AVB this season, lots of shots, nae goals because they weren't penetrating properly. You've got to create clear scoring chances and have a striker who is composed enough and intelligent enough to finish them off.

I'm currently trying my hardest to get the Sturridge/Suarez partnership to work. I am playing Suarez in the AMC role as a Trequartista and Sturridge as a DLF support role. Between them they've got 21 goals with 14 assists at Xmas, not forgetting their combined 52 key passes. Not amazing, but I think if I get the wide players playing better, we'd have more goals.

I personally think that a strike partnership works better in this version of FM for goals.
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I have had Lewandowski score 40 goals in a season, but the next season with the exact same tactics he scored about 20 because there is no consistency in the game.

I have won everything in this game, but the game isn't consistent and I definitely don't think the tactical instructions for the players is even at an acceptable level; you just can't make your players do certain things. Finishing is also OBVIOUSLY broken, I mean, how can a player like Lewandowski or Aguero miss 75% of the 1 on 1s even if they have PPMs like round the keeper or place shots??

The game is playable, but barely.
 
Top players don't always score 40 goals for seasons on the trot, that's just not really very realistic. Sure, Ronaldo and Messi do it, but how many others?

What you're implying is, that if you have a tactic that wins and scores a lot of goals one season, that should continue. Not very realistic is it?

Some aspects need improving, but I don't consider the game broken. Very frustrating at times, but that's football.
 
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