FM11 gets terrible a few seasons in

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I'm now in 2017 with Palermo and I begin to notice the wheels are really starting to come off this game. Regens and young promising players in general cant get a foot in to the footballing world and it really makes the game lose its charm more and more for every season.

I just recently made a search filtering out all players 25 or younger and noticed Neymar was the only one calued above £10m, not having just been bought. Clubs like Sp*rs and Barca had bought sum crappy 23-24 year olds at 10-15m but that was it.

Also, checking out the most recent Balon d'Or voting i noticed there was only one regen (mine, obv) in contention out of 30-40 players. The nominees where the usual suspects, and pretty much the same you would expect to find in the 2011 voting (apart obv from the ones born around 1980 and earlier and added the likes of Neymar, Otamendi and Kroos.

Add the fact that Messi just won his 8th consecutive Balon d'Or and it shows you another problem with this game. Players just dont ever decline in ability until they reach 33-34, not even the slightest off season. Its seems as when they reach their PA (according to every other scout this usually occurs between the ages of 18 and 19) they always perform steadily until their pace drops below 9. This might be one of the reasons regens wont catch a break. There simply just aint enough room for any more top players than there already is, and considering most of them at the start of the game are 21-26 y o, they probably wont get to play much until around 2020.

As i said ive ony played 'til 2017 and dont really know what it looks like in 2025-2030 but i predict there will just be a handful of decent players while most teams are filled with crappy 27 year olds as was the fact in fm10.

Cliffs: Regens are generally **** and dont gain reputation. Performances arent volatile enough. Messi wins Balon d'Or in 2032.

EDIT: Oh, and i just remembered seeing a horrible portuguese ST picking up 5 o Young Player of the Month- awards in the EPL playing for Swansea and averaging ~6.60. Says it all really..
 
Add the fact that Messi just won his 8th consecutive Balon d'Or and it shows you another problem with this game. Players just dont ever decline in ability until they reach 33-34, not even the slightest off season. Its seems as when they reach their PA (according to every other scout this usually occurs between the ages of 18 and 19) they always perform steadily until their pace drops below 9. This might be one of the reasons regens wont catch a break. There simply just aint enough room for any more top players than there already is, and considering most of them at the start of the game are 21-26 y o, they probably wont get to play much until around 2020.

That depends on their determination. The higher their determination, the slower they lose attributes. My players are losing at 30-31. And look at Giggs, Scholes, Drogba... They're getting on, but they're still excellent.
 
Only in 2013 but the quality of regens seems to be better this time around so far for me

i had something similar to the problem you stated on my FM2008 save when all the real players had retired but having got 30 seasons in on FM09 and FM10 i'm sure the problems were fixed

I'll have to wait and see for FM11 but i have already signed a class keepr touted as the new buffon and a striker labelled next Raul - both look very very good for their age (both 17) and sure they will be world class

Also signed this guy from Rubin
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That depends on their determination. The higher their determination, the slower they lose attributes. My players are losing at 30-31. And look at Giggs, Scholes, Drogba... They're getting on, but they're still excellent.

I basically have no problem with players performing at high age. That wasnt my point. Altho it brings out another interesting topic aswell. Players dont age well in FM. In my current save Lampard failed a trial at Blackpool as a 36 year old. Later that summer Blackpool instead signed a 34 year old Xavi. Not too sure Xavi will be that bad at 34.
 
Only in 2013 but the quality of regens seems to be better this time around so far for me

i had something similar to the problem you stated on my FM2008 save when all the real players had retired but having got 30 seasons in on FM09 and FM10 i'm sure the problems were fixed

I'll have to wait and see for FM11 but i have already signed a class keepr touted as the new buffon and a striker labelled next Raul - both look very very good for their age (both 17) and sure they will be world class

Also signed this guy from Rubin
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I also have a few world class regens in Palermo in 2017. But looking around in the world theres pretty much nothing going on. Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney, Aguero are still killing it while no one under the age of 23 gets a seat on the bench.
 
the number of leagues you run and the detail of that league directly impacts on the qualilty of any long term save
 
I think your wrong mate, your save was just unlucky, I had a 2016 save with a team of the year and it was just regens, in every position. I once had a regen better than trivs, (just saying)
 
I also have a few world class regens in Palermo in 2017. But looking around in the world theres pretty much nothing going on. Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney, Aguero are still killing it while no one under the age of 23 gets a seat on the bench.
becuase they have supreme mental and technical stats. the key parts of what makes them so good dont fade that quickly. take a look at giggs and scholes, van der for 3 great examples
 
the quality of regens is indeed much better got 3 regens whose PA is 190+ after only first season
 
I think your wrong mate, your save was just unlucky, I had a 2016 save with a team of the year and it was just regens, in every position. I once had a regen better than trivs, (just saying)

Really? I find it very hard to believe there was no Messi involved for example, but thats just me. In my save Ronaldo, Messi and Aguero has been top 3 every season in the Balon d'Or voting. With Messi as no.1 every time.
 
Really? I find it very hard to believe there was no Messi involved for example, but thats just me. In my save Ronaldo, Messi and Aguero has been top 3 every season in the Balon d'Or voting. With Messi as no.1 every time.

As said before, number of leagues loaded and database size has a direct impact on what happens on your save in the future.
 
Really? I find it very hard to believe there was no Messi involved for example, but thats just me. In my save Ronaldo, Messi and Aguero has been top 3 every season in the Balon d'Or voting. With Messi as no.1 every time.
yes, your save. not everyone's save is the same
 
Remember in fm10 messi won best player of the year award like 6 or 7 times. this seems to be alot the same.
 
yeah the way messi is going it looks like your save is just like reality! :)
 
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