Goodbye FM 14.. Can't wait for 15

[SmoothJitsu]

So i got my laptop back last week and it was the first time i played with the 14.3 patch.. It is just me or this patch just ruined the ME? I can't get any tactics right, and i've tried every combination known to man.. I had this amazing tactic that i used to win 3 CL and 3 BPL's in a row with Everton and now i can't even win a home game with PSG.. I'm so done with this game.

 

[will8578]

Iv uninstalled it & went back to fm13, really hope 15 is an improvement

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[SmoothJitsu]

I'm in 2024/25 season and still enjoy it. Not to be sounded out as a 'fan boi' but I think they get better every year (mainly because Middlesbrough's chances of promotion slightly increase lol).

There's a few niggles here and there, but there's always stuff like that.

Don't get me wrong i loved it but i think that the patch ruined the ME, it just became impossible to win games..

 

[WJ]

So the ME is ruined because you can't win games? How immature. Why not take a look at what you're doing wrong or ask advice? SI will be building from 14.3 so you might have the same problems in FM15.

 

[skyfall]

FM 14 absolutely sucks on the Tactic part. I want to go back to 13 or 12 (this was the best in my opinion).

 

[MANUMAD]

FM 14 absolutely sucks on the Tactic part.

It doesnt actually.

 

[skyfall]

It doesnt actually.

then how do you explain that not even with Barcelona i can win games after trying every tactic possible? Lost with Elche 2-1, RMA destroying me with 5-1, etc. It's not me not knowing how to play the game because I didn't had these issues on 12, 13 or any other FM since 2005.

 

[WJ]

then how do you explain that not even with Barcelona i can win games after trying every tactic possible? Lost with Elche 2-1, RMA destroying me with 5-1, etc. It's not me not knowing how to play the game because I didn't had these issues on 12, 13 or any other FM since 2005.

Every tactic possible? Don't lie. You're losing because your tactics weren't good enough. Obviously you didn't have these problems in previous versions, because each year the ME and the AI get improvements. This year especially, **** tactics don't work.

 

[SFolio]

then how do you explain that not even with Barcelona i can win games after trying every tactic possible? Lost with Elche 2-1, RMA destroying me with 5-1, etc. It's not me not knowing how to play the game because I didn't had these issues on 12, 13 or any other FM since 2005.

'It's not me not knowing how to play the game' I really think it is. If you knew how to play the game you wouldn't be complaining.

 

[SmoothJitsu]

So the ME is ruined because you can't win games? How immature. Why not take a look at what you're doing wrong or ask advice? SI will be building from 14.3 so you might have the same problems in FM15.

Maybe you didn't read what i wrote, but i'll say it again. i tried every combination and "winning tactics" from the internet, nothing works, i can have 30 shots and one of two happens, the opposition GK makes unbelivable saves or my attackers just can't shoot the ball on goal..

Oh and i've also asked for advice.. i had exactly 1 reply. and he told me to make sure my tactic was fully fluid. lol

 

[SmoothJitsu]

'It's not me not knowing how to play the game' I really think it is. If you knew how to play the game you wouldn't be complaining.

Or maybe people want to have some fun, and not waste too much time on it.. Maybe, just maybe because they have better things to do

 

[WJ]

Maybe you didn't read what i wrote, but i'll say it again. i tried every combination and "winning tactics" from the internet, nothing works, i can have 30 shots and one of two happens, the opposition GK makes unbelivable saves or my attackers just can't shoot the ball on goal..

Oh, I read what you wrote. You're relying on someone else's tactics and then coming to complain it doesn't work? Downloaded tactics (in general) love counter attacking down the middle at high tempo. That won't always work, especially against teams sitting back or players without the technical and mental skills to pull it off and to a lesser effect, bad pitches. This is more and more evident after the 1st season, once you start over-achieving and teams start being more cautious against you.

Rather create your own balanced tactic and make your mind up then. I'll even offer my own time to give you advice, if you need any.

 

[devosjn]

i like how people call it good and **** tactics. Lets instead say certain types of tactics work, and these types of tactics can be learned from playing the game a lot and reading game guides. The game will never be like real life i.e. van gaal sprang a tactical surprise on the spanish and gave them a proper hiding. In FM14 you read the opposition and from exp. you know which tactic will defeat them, no great tactical genius involved.

 

[SmoothJitsu]

Oh, I read what you wrote. You're relying on someone else's tactics and then coming to complain it doesn't work? Downloaded tactics (in general) love counter attacking down the middle at high tempo. That won't always work, especially against teams sitting back or players without the technical and mental skills to pull it off and to a lesser effect, bad pitches. This is more and more evident after the 1st season, once you start over-achieving and teams start being more cautious against you.

Rather create your own balanced tactic and make your mind up then. I'll even offer my own time to give you advice, if you need any.

I only started downloading when my **** didn't work

I usually play a possession high tempo passing game, i only counter when i play a stronger side.. but not all hope is lost i did a WC with France and got third and eliminated Germany 2-0 and Beat Argentina 4-1.. i'm starting a new career and i'm trying out this tactic

Look i won't pretend that i'm a beast at this game, i play to have fun and to create a badass tactic but that hasn't been possible lately

 

[Godfish93]

Or maybe people want to have some fun, and not waste too much time on it.. Maybe, just maybe because they have better things to do

You've basically just described Classic mode. Although, let's be fair, you shouldn't have better things to do.

In regard to your tactical mishaps, even if you get a perfect tactic, etc, there's still no guarantee you'll win anyway. I had a match the other week where I had 44 shots, and lost 1-0. You'd think one of those 44 would go in. But, the reality is, matches like that happen. People whine it isn't realistic enough, and then when it is verges on more realistic, people complain it is too "difficult", or not "fun".

Rather than downloading a tactic, do as WJ as suggested, have a play with your own tactics, and see what you can come up with. I'm sure many people on here would be happy to help. Besides, the reward for using your own tactic is so much greater.

 

[WJ]

I only started downloading when my **** didn't work

I usually play a possession high tempo passing game, i only counter when i play a stronger side.. but not all hope is lost i did a WC with France and got third and eliminated Germany 2-0 and Beat Argentina 4-1.. i'm starting a new career and i'm trying out this tactic

Look i won't pretend that i'm a beast at this game, i play to have fun and to create a badass tactic but that hasn't been possible lately

Okay, so you are having some success!

I didn't mean Counter as in the mentality. I meant counter as in lightning quick attacks with (central) players all rushing forward. This is usually done with a Control or the more popular Attacking mentality. It works against teams, but it won't work against teams who really shut up shop. This is what will happen much more regularly in the 2nd season.

 

[SmoothJitsu]

Okay, so you are having some success!

I didn't mean Counter as in the mentality. I meant counter as in lightning quick attacks with (central) players all rushing forward. This is usually done with a Control or the more popular Attacking mentality. It works against teams, but it won't work against teams who really shut up shop. This is what will happen much more regularly in the 2nd season.

Oh ok.. but still i usually play in control, and i like my players to pass at a high tempo until some player makes a good run and the ballcarrier makes a killer pass to unlock the defense, maybe the instructions are wrong but if you could help me with that it would be great.

 

[WJ]

Oh ok.. but still i usually play in control, and i like my players to pass at a high tempo until some player makes a good run and the ballcarrier makes a killer pass to unlock the defense, maybe the instructions are wrong but if you could help me with that it would be great.

Those downloaded tactics are very 1-dimensional in that it only relies on fast breaks down the middle, which consist of a lot of central players on attacking duties. The mentality isn't the problem necessarily. It's the entire setup. Lots of space in the beginning because teams think you're easy pickings. After they realise that you're a force to be reckoned with (slightly after Jan and definitely 2nd season and worse in 3rd etc) they'll keep more men back and you'll just run right into a 5 man wall of defenders. This leaves people frustrated as it once worked so well.


I'd be happy to help where/if I can. One thing to keep in mind already, is that Control has a fairly high tempo already. You can increase the tempo more, but you need good players technically and mentally to pull it off. Create a thread maybe and post up your tactic? Jean-Luc has been doing great since getting some advice. Hopefully we can sort you out too, if there are any tactical issues.

 

[SmoothJitsu]

Those downloaded tactics are very 1-dimensional in that it only relies on fast breaks down the middle, which consist of a lot of central players on attacking duties. The mentality isn't the problem necessarily. It's the entire setup. Lots of space in the beginning because teams think you're easy pickings. After they realise that you're a force to be reckoned with (slightly after Jan and definitely 2nd season and worse in 3rd etc) they'll keep more men back and you'll just run right into a 5 man wall of defenders. This leaves people frustrated as it once worked so well.


I'd be happy to help where/if I can. One thing to keep in mind already, is that Control has a fairly high tempo already. You can increase the tempo more, but you need good players technically and mentally to pull it off. Create a thread maybe and post up your tactic? Jean-Luc has been doing great since getting some advice. Hopefully we can sort you out too, if there are any tactical issues.

I'll do it after the Germany game.. One question though how do you post pictures?

 

[WJ]

I'll do it after the Germany game.. One question though how do you post pictures?

Not sure if you can upload them directly to the forum, but I use an external image hosting site (photobucket, imgur) to upload the pics and then just paste the