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So my quest for a satisfying tactic continues.

Although i've been successful in my long term Tonbridge save and i've won the League with my testing team Man City with a number of different tactics i've been looking for something that ticks every box. Namely;

1. Real World formation and approach

2. High scoring whilst solid in defence

3. A tactic for all occasions, can blow away weaker teams but hold its own against stronger opponents

4. Be consistent, limit the inevitable runs of poor form to an absolute minimum

5. Be enjoyable and entertaining to watch


In other words a plug & play tactic for all levels.

I'll admit to getting a bit paranoid when i've taken a look at some of the prominent tactics on this and others forums and i've seen teams go unbeaten all season which i've never done.

For the first time i've downloaded them and tried them with Man City, they are certainly strong attacking tactics capable of good runs of goal scoring and results but i never made it to the end of September without defeat with any of them. Normally a pretty heavy defeat at this.

What is obvious is that the truly great results are achieved by teams which have been improved over 6 or 7 seasons and are now full of technically gifted footballers but seemingly more importantly with IMMENSE PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES, i.e very high pace & strength to compliment there other attributes. In all areas of the pitch.

This can make a very good tactic appear to be a great tactic. As Brian Clough said, footballers win you matches not tactics (which i agree with only partially!)

I've tested some very attacking tactic's of my own, i abandoned 1 after 9 straight wins averaging 2.9 goals a game as i was conceding 15+ shots and 5 or 6 clear cut chances a game. I wasn't fooled, i'd been getting away with it but this is exactly the kind of tactic which will fall apart mid season when your luck runs out, morale takes a hit and your ambitions are derailed.

My current tactic

The results are very solid, plenty of goals, few conceded. I had an unusual sense of calm when using this tactic, not a lot was going to go wrong and would likely get at least 2 goals a game. Pretty stress free.

I would expect this to scale well with weaker teams as its a very well balanced tactic. Results will obviously not be as strong but you should comfortably meet/exceed expectations.

Tactical Observations

Target Men are good.
In the tests i've done a Target Man on Support is more prolific than a Complete Forward on Attack. It might be related to their inherent physicality or the fact that they don't get isolated like a Complete Forward does but i've had a great return from mine as you can see below.

The Advantage of using only 1 (official) Striker.
Anyone in a dedicated 'striker position' has a weight of expectation on them to score goals. The game doesn't care if he's had 10 assists in 6 games, if he hasn't scored you start hearing about 'goal droughts', his form drops, he misses sitters and this snowballs into a massive problem for him and the team as the goals dry up. This is really over done in FM in my opinion.

Conversely when your Strikers starts scoring they can get on a massive roll as confidence gets high and they start smashing them in from all over the place.

With only 1 striker with the goal scoring burden, and a tactic which will feed him chances you can almost always stay on the right side of this mechanic. You can also put him as your main penalty taker and in a good spot at corners to feed him extra goals and keep his form high for most of the season.

Our other main goalscorer is the Trequartista, as he is in the AMC strata he does not have have pressure to score goals and we don't have to worry about goal droughts as this mechanic does not apply.

Sitting Deep with Attacking roles vs Pushing up with Conservative roles.
These approaches seem to be the way to go on FM. The former is more popular with both FB's on attack, with decent pace they are able to get back when attacks break down.

I prefer the latter approach with my conservative nature. We are 'risking' a high line but are set up to recycle possession and recover our shape quickly should we lose the ball, win it back and start again.

You are vulnerable to the ball over the top but strikers are woeful one on one, sitting deep you are vulnerable to crosses which are far more deadly.


Too many cooks.....
There is a temptation to throw lots of players into the box during attacks, these players bring defenders with them which causes the box to be over crowded and 'melee' type situations to occur. Our creators can pass and cross, all they need is 1 man in space.

I find 3 in the box is ideal, maybe 4 with 'lurkers' ready and available outside the area to recycle possession win back the ball early of need be.


So in the end we have a tactic with 3 attacking mentalities 4 defend and 3 support (exc GK).

Following the rules

This tactic follows the various guides on the forum quite closely, with all duties present in both the defensive & midfield lines. This ensures you have depth in attack, a 'staggered' approach with multiple passing options and good defensive cover.

We have a team which transitions smoothly from attack to defence and back again, threatens equally from the flanks and through the middle, has depth in both defence and attack (attackers in the box, the rest 'lurking') and gives me what i have been looking for.......... BALANCE in all areas!

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PLAYER ROLES

Player Roles.

As you probably know by now I like to shape my team by looking for key attributes for each role to maximise the effect of the tactic.

I have gone along these line again, HOWEVER if you are in a top Divison and are seeking to build a UBER TEAM having dominant physical specimens will help take you to that level.

UBER TEAM REQUIREMENTS - optional

All players minimum acceleration 15.
All players minimum strength 13.

(except GK)

Outside of that, these are the base requirements for each role & player description.

Target Man - Support
Strength, Jumping Reach, Finishing, Composure

Amongst other things this guy will be your main goalscorer. A highly effective creator as well. A focal point in the attack, linking play, upsetting defenders, creating space and getting on the end of chances. You'll grow to love him!

Trequartista - Attack
Off the Ball, Finishing, Composure, Passing

A maverick with licence to roam and do his own thing. Good movement is key, an unpredictable player for our opponent to deal with, difficult to pick up. A creator/goalscorer linking and building attacks before arriving late to finish them off.

Central Midfield - Attack
Acceleration, Off the Ball, Finishing, Composure

One of my favourite roles in FM14. An aggressive runner from deep, can be a creative force and goalscorer. Often finding gaps in defences with the ball at his feet, driving the team forward from midfield. Our 3rd attacker, a true goal scoring midfielder, expect lots of goals and assists.

Central Midfield - Support
Passing, Work Rate, Team Work, Determination

A hybrid player, instrumental in our attacks whilst remaining circumspect. Diligent in defense. Although cautious when he determines an sound attacking platform is in place he is happy to support attacks, link play, spread the ball wide and find space behind the forward line.

Central Midfield – Defend
Passing, Tackling, Marking, Positioning

A disciplined role, short of glory but vital to ensure we remain defensively solid. The last line of defence for our back 4. We need a good marker/tackler to sniff out and eliminate danger before initiating and supporting the early build up of attacks

Deeplying Playmaker - Defend
Passing, Positioning, Marking, Tackling

This guy builds our attacks from the back and is an easy outball for the Centre Backs. During sustained attacks is available to recycle possession from deep spreading play from flank to flank or hitting a runner from deep. Has a lot of defensive responsibility as well with his midfield partner often up the pitch. Direct passing is on, this guy will initiate some deadly counter attacks.

Full Back - Support
Tackling, Marking, Passing, Acceleration


We need this guy to cover for our absent midfielders with his nearest 2 on Support and Attack duty, we want him holding his position a little deeper. Available for an easy out ball if an attack runs into a cul de sac, able to hit our Target Man from deep if the pass is on. With our high line they need to be quick to cover for any mistakes.

Full Back – Attack
Acceleration, Crossing, Dribbling, Work Rate

Positioned next to our most defensive minded midfielder this guy has a licence to bomb on. We need a speed merchant to get up and down the flank all day. With no wide player in front of him he will get very far up the pitch, often. We want him pinging crosses onto the head of our target man.


Centre Backs - Defend/Cover
Tackling, Marking, Positioning, Acceleration

As we are likely to be defending break away's rather than a lot of crosses i've prioritised 'acceleration' over 'jumping reach'. However its pretty hard to find centre backs who are poor in the air, best avoid the one's who are. Other than that, we just one competent defenders with the pace to get each other out of trouble. Put your fastest one on 'cover' duty.

Goal Keepers
One on Ones, Concentration, Reflexes, Aerial Ability

They will be one on one a lot! Need to be 'specialists' in this area, it helps a lot. Other than that, get the best you can.
 
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@Rosler71
Thanks for the tactics you share with us. I'll try them and post my thoughts.
Can you please give to us the training scheme you use as well as the OIs (if any)?
And what about your game strategy? If you are favourite or underdog, if you want to park the bus or to overload your play?
 
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@Rosler71
Thanks for the tactics you share with us. I'll try them and post my thoughts.
Can you please give to us the training scheme you use as well as the OIs (if any)?
And what about your game strategy? If you are favourite or underdog, if you want to park the bus or to overload your play?

I use this as a plug & play, i dont touch anything in any circumstances. This is partly because i want a pure test. In theory it would make sense to use overload late on to chase and control to protect a lead.

No OI.

Training, nothing special.

General = 2 weeks Fitness pre-season. Then 2 months on Team Blend. Then Balanced

Match = Tactics till fully fluid then leave on attacking movement.

Slider- Maximum match training until tactic is fully fluid then half way.


I'VE FOUND THE 2 MONTHS ON TEAM BLEND AT THE START OF EACH SEASON TO BE VITAL
 
Good Tactic!

Tweaked TM to False 9 to suit my strikers and its been amazing!
 
Going to give this a try soon; ill keep you updated mate. Looks promising.
 
Eugh, this is the piece of **** formation Southampton use and I always struggle to win against. I'll be sure to try it soon :)
 
It's not bad, in big games though I've yet to have a decent performance with Juve, lost to lazio twice and got destroyed by Bayern which is kinda understandable.
 
It's not bad, in big games though I've yet to have a decent performance with Juve, lost to lazio twice and got destroyed by Bayern which is kinda understandable.

Interesting, the 3 games i lost with city were away to Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool. Perhaps the mentality needs to be changed to 'control' for big away games.

My Tonbridge team are holding there own 1st season in the Prem, looking like we'll stay up fairly comfortably. Struggle to contain teams at times, but then with a media prediction of 18th, we would.
 
Interesting, the 3 games i lost with city were away to Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool. Perhaps the mentality needs to be changed to 'control' for big away games.

My Tonbridge team are holding there own 1st season in the Prem, looking like we'll stay up fairly comfortably. Struggle to contain teams at times, but then with a media prediction of 18th, we would.

good attacking tactic need a set of defensive one for contain and standard or control for away games... just like rainmaker and silk and steel
 
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This took my Liverpool side to the top of Premier League without any problems.

I had some problems getting decent match ratings for my MCL and MCR.

Any experience with that ?
 
This took my Liverpool side to the top of Premier League without any problems.

I had some problems getting decent match ratings for my MCL and MCR.

Any experience with that ?

MCL left not so much, agree re MCR. I thought i had an inconsistent player so i brought someone new in. Too early to tell.

Not all players can be 'glory boys', scoring and assisting, we need the 'water carriers' as well. If FM choose's not to recognise the good work they do there's not a lot we can do about that.
 
Use AC Milan in 2nd season with this original tactic, and the result a little bit inconsistent, also got a lot red card for MCR and FB..
after i changed the mentality to "control" and remove "stuck in" & "offside trap" the result got much better..
now got the best defense in league.. +54 in goal diff..
 
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