Heavy Depreciation of Players

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Hi all.
Here's a quick rundown of my current save:

Currently, I am in the Championship after some good results in there the years before.
I have a very good scout roaming eastern Europe, as I find there's some true gems to be found that are still willing to sign for a non-top club and really do the trick.
With some clever free agent signings, tradings, high-profile friendlies I managed to amass a decent wage budget.
The problem I have is with a few players, but one of them definitely stands out:

One Serbian midfielder, all my coaches rave about how great he is, would be a good signing for most premier division sides etc etc.
So, I hired him in the January window of last season, valued at 3.2 million, got him for 2.9 million.
He played almost every game after he signed, his value increased to about 3.6 by the end of the season.

So, cut to here and now:
Season starts, some high profile clubs declare interest in him (Blackburn, Tottenham and Atletico among others) but I shut them down, because he's too key for me to give him up.
So, he start to become a bit unhappy, then gets injured. Transfer window closes and NOW he requests to be listed.
I've been scouting around a bit for a replacement and decided to let him go in the next transfer window.
I'm still about 40 days from the next window, and in the meantime, he has skipped out on training about 4 times, got another injury, is truly unhappy and bashes me in the press, and his value has sunk from 3.6 million before to just under 900k now.

Is that normal that a player can loose almost 75% of his value in half a season? And is there a way to get his asking price back up to a point where I can at least break even?
As it is, I would really need the money from his sale to even attempt a bid on any of his replacements, and loosing him as a key player might very well foil my aspirations to promotion.

As I said, there's a few more players with similar happenings, but not quite as drastic (and all but one are still content to stay).

Anyway, any feedback or tips are welcome.
 
This has actually happened to me with Daniel Aquino, Signed first season for Braga for 3M, He suffered a 4 month injury and decreased to 1.4m.

Decreasing to 900k is a bit harsh. My only sugestion is putting him on Penaltys, get him scoring to raise his asking price.
 
I'll try that.
I guess when I do sell him, I try to sneak in a fairly high percentage of next sale clause, or even a buy back clause.
Well, 2 month to go before the end of the next transfer window (he even has a few Caps for Serbia in between), so I he gains a little extra value.

If not, maybe keep him until next season (with all the times he skips training, and I fine him 1 or 2 weeks wages, he almost works for free.....).
I'll also try to loan him out first.

As mentioned, he apparently has very high potential (coming from my scout with 17/18 respectively in JPA and JPP), he's only 21 now and I'd really like to keep him. 12 games in this season I'm at a solid second place in the championship, so if I can get promoted he might be inclined to stay.

Well, anyway, I hope for the best, if not, my scouts unearthed some rather interesting alternatives in eastern europe (some 18year old , 1,7 mil rated "should be signed at all costs" is next in the progression)
 
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There might not be enough time to get his value back up to 3.6 million.

I would suggest letting him go to these clubs on loan for the rest of the season, his value will rise again - if he stays injury free, and you'll be able to sell him for a higher price.

I done that with a player called Steven Robb when I was Livi, his value was at 850k, got injured, dropped to 230k, sent him out on loan to Celtic - who were interested in buying him - for half a season and was able to sell him to them for 720k at the start of the next season.
 
I'll try the loan, for sure.
The problem I have really is that if I loan him out I still need to get a proper replacement.
I hope I can ask for a decent fee for the loan, or at least part of his wages, else it would really impact my budget (he's one of my top earners as well....).

Thanks for the tips, I'll post how it goes later.

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So...now I have officially no idea where the values come from.

From early December, my player started (and mostly finished) every single game, not scoring, but giving a few key assists, and never got a match rating below 7.
His value went up to just about 700 k in that time.

In January, transfer window open, I managed to strike a loan deal with Sunderland, getting a small fee and having them pay 80% of his wage until the end of the season.

Now it is mid-February, he has not played IN A SINGLE GAME for Sunderland, and yet his value is up to 1.3 million. No offense, but WTF???

(I had to sell Beckford and Snoddy to adjust my budget, but at least it seems I can sell that guy now for a decent amount next season. Also, I'm on a 15 game unbeaten run, 6 points clear of the second place in the Championship with 12 games to go, so I guess I'll do alright with my finances next year in the Premier League)

EDIT:

Another player of mine with a similar problem ow does equally well in the Premier League with Bolton on loan.
However, at the start of the transfer window, he first requested to be listed, stated that he wants to move up to a higher divison, and then BECAME EXTREMELY UNHAPPY after I rejected a transfer offer from Doncaster, the team DEAD LAST IN MY OWN DIVISION!!!!

Just gets to show, too many headers do take their toll on ones intelligence....
 
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I hope so...I need money to stay up in the PRM.
All is looking good for promotion (clinched playoffs, and I'm 4 points ahead from the 2nd and 8 from the 3rd place with 8 games to go against a lot of bottom-table teams) and I'm in the semi for the FA cup against Newcastle (a very beatable side).

Anyway, I managed to snap up Adailton and Jao Paulo (spelling) and so far they perform wonders, so I'm quite confident I can hold my own this and next season.

All in all it just strikes me as quite strange that a players value is more determined by where he plays and not by how he plays....

---------- Post added at 01:04 AM ---------- Previous post was yesterday at 10:23 AM ----------

Hehe...won the league, both my loan players have heavily increased in value so I can sell them for a lot next season, and most of all, after a combination of some stunning performance, injury troubles for my opposition and a huge amount of shear luck, I just lifted the FA trophy with a 2-1 over Man City.
I'm sure the price money and increased club profile is going to allow me to build a competetive team next season (just signed Wynaldium or whatever he's called for 3m from the price money).

So now to see if I actually do qualify for the UEFA cup next year (the rules say winner of FA qualifies, but I never managed to win the trophy while in the lower leagues, so let's see...if I do, boy, I'll rake in some serious cash)

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...and arsenal just stole my 7* GK coach...bastards
 
When I was southampton before I got them promoted and my players value shot up so much even the ones i didnt really play much. Maybe if u do get euro cup spot then this player u sent 2 sunderland may wanna stop at ur club well thats if u want him. Id just get rid of him now while the moneys good :) I always sell players who want 2 move to bigger clubs has I never seem 2 get the best out of them when they're unhappy n want 2 leave.
 
Yeah promotion works wonders for player value, I got promoted to Serie A and I had this one shockingly bad player, 2 star current and potential, decent Serie B player- sold him to Bologna for 1m. :)
 
Alright, it might work out.
I am qualified for Europe Cup (just hope I fit the home-grown rule...) and the new season is about to start.
But jsust now, the Chairman retired, takeover bids have started and I have a transfer embargo 3 days before the transfer window opens.
My luck, as I spend considerable time talking up Zuculini, and my scouts tell me he'd be extremely interested....
Anyway, my transfer budget next season (once I'm allowed to spend it) is at 35 million, so I hope the embargo lifts so I can strengthen my squad and stay in the league.

Thanks all for helping and giving tips and feedback.

I'm actually thinking of making a post mortem of my run so far and keep it updated starting from now on.
 
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