Help Me With My Midfield Dilema

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I am playing as Arsenal with 4-2-3-1 formation and I am concerned that my midfield might lack creativity and attacking flair. Basically I am playing two ball winning midfileders Yann M'Villa and Alex Song in the centre. Fabregas as the AMC - Advance playmaker support and Wilshere as the Inside Forward - Attack on the Right and Nasri - Inside Forward Attack on the left.

Alex Song is set to ball winning midfielder defend and Yann M' Villa is set to ball winning midfielder support. The reason why I have two ball winning midfielders is because I wanted some steal in the middle of the park. I justed wanted to ask the expert how would they set up M'Villa and Song to ensure that they also became a creative influence in the team but not loose there defensive steal.

I am trying to create the classic Vierra/Petit midfield partnership where one would gallops forward and joins the attack at the right time while the other would hold in the middle of the park to protect the back four.

Also as anyone tried Jack Wilshere in the AMR position as an Inside Forward. I know it is probaly not his natural position but I would like to know how to set up his instructions so that he performs well in the position.
Your feedback on advice would be great
 
ypu have fabregas, nasri, wilshere and you lack of creativity?
I suggest Song as anchorman and M'villa as DLP support.
Jack Wilshere plays well as Right Inside Forward, he will do trough ball very well, sometimes scores because he's left footed
 
kentun said:
ypu have fabregas, nasri, wilshere and you lack of creativity?
I suggest Song as anchorman and M'villa as DLP support.
Jack Wilshere plays well as Right Inside Forward, he will do trough ball very well, sometimes scores because he's left footed
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I am playing 4-2-3-1 so I would have 2 x players in the central midfielder position to play Song as a Anchor Man then that would mean playing a 4-5-1. I might consider that formation because then I could pull Fabregas back in central midfield as an advance playmaker attack alongside M'Villa who could provide the muscle as a ball winning midfilder support. The problem is that I am want to play the Arsenal 4-2-3-1 formation which they play in real lfe.
 
I would suggest a Ball-Winning Midfielder/Box-to-Box Midfielder partnership between Song and M'Vila. One of them, if not both, are capable to play well as box-to-box midfielders, so having them both as ball-winners is sort of cutting off their ability to be more expansive in the midfield. I would also suggest having them swapping positions, so that they can both experience one-another's positions during matches. It increases their passing rates, tackles, interceptions and movement. Arsenal dothe same thing in real-life with Song and Wilshere.

For Wilshere being an Inside Forward on the right wing, I would suggest lowering his mentality, increasing his closing down and making him moving into channels instead of cutting inside like Nasri. I am not 100% sure that this will make him your best player with these instructions, but it brings something new to the team. He is hard-working and doing so as a right winger should be beneficial in the final third of the pitch.
 
gunnerjames said:
I am playing as Arsenal with 4-2-3-1 formation and I am concerned that my midfield might lack creativity and attacking flair. Basically I am playing two ball winning midfileders Yann M'Villa and Alex Song in the centre. Fabregas as the AMC - Advance playmaker support and Wilshere as the Inside Forward - Attack on the Right and Nasri - Inside Forward Attack on the left.

Alex Song is set to ball winning midfielder defend and Yann M' Villa is set to ball winning midfielder support. The reason why I have two ball winning midfielders is because I wanted some steal in the middle of the park. I justed wanted to ask the expert how would they set up M'Villa and Song to ensure that they also became a creative influence in the team but not loose there defensive steal.

I am trying to create the classic Vierra/Petit midfield partnership where one would gallops forward and joins the attack at the right time while the other would hold in the middle of the park to protect the back four.

Also as anyone tried Jack Wilshere in the AMR position as an Inside Forward. I know it is probaly not his natural position but I would like to know how to set up his instructions so that he performs well in the position.
Your feedback on advice would be great
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Really? you have many players with good creativity as kentun listed. you can keep the 4-2-3-1 and use song as a ball winning midfielder/defend. M'vila/wilshere next to him on DLP/support and centre midfield/support respectively, although if you wish to use 2 ball winning midfielders you can. Nasri/arshavin as an inside forward on the left, fabregas as advanced playmaker and walcott as winger? thats enough creativity in my opinion?
 
i also play 4-2-3-1 with Arsenal and bought M'Vila what i am finding that works well is:

MCL: Fabregas Advanced Playmaker Support
MCR: M'Villa BWM - Support/ or Song as a BWM Defense
AMC: Was Wilshere playing as an AM Attack which worked well but have now bought Hamsik to play there
AMR/AML: Nasri/Arshavin as Inside Fowards Attack with occasionally Walcot as a winger. also getting the AMR/L to swap postions

Working well atm currently top of the league in February scoring plenty of goals and not conceding many either (the Vermaluen - Stopper and Koscienly - Cover partnership works well)

Hope this helps
 
Couldnt You Play Wilshere Next To Yan M'Villa And Use Walcott As The Inside Forward
 
JaydenBeales said:
Couldnt You Play Wilshere Next To Yan M'Villa And Use Walcott As The Inside Forward
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I want to use Song in the midfield also because I do not want to keep a player with Song or M'Villa ability on the bench as back up. I also want o have that steal in the middle of the park
 
I'm in the 4th season at arsenal and I've been playing with a 4-2-3-1 (like they do in real life) since i started and it's working perfectly

creativity would not be a problem as suggested above as we have fabregas, nasri, wilshere and co. my starting lineup would be:

GK - Szczesny (GK - defend)
RB - Van der Wiel (Wingback - attack)
DC - Djourou (Central Defender - defend)
DC - Vermaelen (Central Defender - defend)
LB - Clichy (Fullback - support)
MCR - Song (Ball-winning midfielder - defend)
MCL - Moussa Sissoko (Box-to-box - support)
AMR - Wilshere (Advanced Playmaker - attack)
AML - Nasri (Advanced Playmaker - attack)
AMC - Fabregas (Advanced Playmaker - support)
ST - RVP (Complete Forward/Deep-lying forward - support)

M'villa and sissoko are quite similar in nature so yes i'd say that would work with your team too. I used to have sissoko and song swap positions in the first season but i stopped in the 2nd season as i believed sissoko fared better than song when he ventured forward. Also as my RB is always looking to overlap AMR, song will provide solid cover on that side.

with 3 advanced playmakers in the lineup you are guaranteed to have fantastic passes and movement just like they do in real life. i also have both AMR and AML cutting inside to their strong foot so they score a fair amount of goals too. With RVP set as a support striker, your goals will be distributed quite evenly (and quite surprisingly sissoko is the 3rd leading team goalscorer behind RVP and fabregas)

also sometimes in the match when i find myself against a resilient defence i will put sissoko as the ball-winning MC, wilshere as the box-to-box MC (he plays just as great there) and replace song with an attacking AMR (e.g. walcott)
 
You make more senses to me, ianthtse.
I'll try your **** great idea with 3 Advanced Playmakers, mate ;)

---------- Post added at 10:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:43 AM ----------

ianthtse, who is your main playmaker ? Do you untick it ?
 
i think i used cesc as my main playmaker back in 1st season but from 2nd season onwards i had it unticked.. mainly because i wanted the assists to be distributed evenly amongst the team

either way would be fine in my opinion
 
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