gunnerjames
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whenever I try to create a tactic with a formation, which includes wingers and an amc (4411,4231), I always face the same problems.
no matter, how strong my two holding players are, no matter how their settings are, I just cant get them play the way I imagine.
I mean, is it really that difficult to place them in the centre of the field, playin a bit deeper and dont trying to get out of position and so building a two man wall in front of the backline?
how on earth is that possible in this game?
when I look at manchester united, real madrid or mourinhos inter milan, they all play a formation, which includes two holding midfielders, one attacking and two offensive wingers. why do these teams have such a good defence and dominating midfield?
its certainly not, because they have AMCs with good defensive attributes, at least Özil and Snejder are not famous for their workrate.
so whats the reason behind this success?
in the game, Ive tried out several settings.
first, I tried it with a bit lower mentality, lower closing down settings and lose zonal marking, as I dont want them to chase the opposition players, so that they leave their positions and there is a hole in the centre of the field.
well, what I could observe with these settings were, that they were too far away from the opposition midfielders, and with too far, I mean, that these could pass arround in front of my own box without getting attacked and had plenty of time to make that killerpass.
when I use tight zonal, they tend to close down the players even on the flanks and I often get caught off.
with man marking, its even worse, since they start closing down the opposition midfielders in their own half and there is a huge gap between my backline and the midfield, so that the opposition striker just need to step back a bit, one of my center backs follows him and then he can play the killer ball into the channel.
well, I thought, ok, if the opposition is using a deep lying forward, in order to take advantage of the huge gap, I just let my backline play bit higher and so reduce the gap.
well, sounds logically, insofar you have quick center backs, if not, you are really getting problems.
I hope some of you can show me some examples, that you can also have tight midfield with 2 holding players.
I dont want to have any download links of tactics, which certain users have created, I want a serious discussion and somebody, who can explain me the reason, why I face these kind of problems.
no matter, how strong my two holding players are, no matter how their settings are, I just cant get them play the way I imagine.
I mean, is it really that difficult to place them in the centre of the field, playin a bit deeper and dont trying to get out of position and so building a two man wall in front of the backline?
how on earth is that possible in this game?
when I look at manchester united, real madrid or mourinhos inter milan, they all play a formation, which includes two holding midfielders, one attacking and two offensive wingers. why do these teams have such a good defence and dominating midfield?
its certainly not, because they have AMCs with good defensive attributes, at least Özil and Snejder are not famous for their workrate.
so whats the reason behind this success?
in the game, Ive tried out several settings.
first, I tried it with a bit lower mentality, lower closing down settings and lose zonal marking, as I dont want them to chase the opposition players, so that they leave their positions and there is a hole in the centre of the field.
well, what I could observe with these settings were, that they were too far away from the opposition midfielders, and with too far, I mean, that these could pass arround in front of my own box without getting attacked and had plenty of time to make that killerpass.
when I use tight zonal, they tend to close down the players even on the flanks and I often get caught off.
with man marking, its even worse, since they start closing down the opposition midfielders in their own half and there is a huge gap between my backline and the midfield, so that the opposition striker just need to step back a bit, one of my center backs follows him and then he can play the killer ball into the channel.
well, I thought, ok, if the opposition is using a deep lying forward, in order to take advantage of the huge gap, I just let my backline play bit higher and so reduce the gap.
well, sounds logically, insofar you have quick center backs, if not, you are really getting problems.
I hope some of you can show me some examples, that you can also have tight midfield with 2 holding players.
I dont want to have any download links of tactics, which certain users have created, I want a serious discussion and somebody, who can explain me the reason, why I face these kind of problems.
