Mata transfer to Chelsea doesn't bode well for La Liga's future

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Mata transfer to Chelsea doesn't bode well for La Liga's future

Juan Mata Chelsea transfer doesn't bode well for La Liga's future - Sid Lowe - SI.com
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Despite a desire to sign with Real Madrid, Sergio Aguero ultimately signed with Manchester City.Matt West/BPI/Icon SMI


Every time they say goodbye, La Liga dies a little. Now Juan Mata has signed for Chelsea from Valencia, just as Sergio Aguero signed for Manchester City from Atlético Madrid. For fans of City and Chelsea, the transfers are fantastically exciting, two great additions to two teams aspiring to win the Premier League. For the Spanish league, they are frightening. Despite the injection of around 75 million euros, the transfers are confirmation of a worrisome trend.

In truth, Aguero wanted to go to Real Madrid. In the end, he signed for City. Mata had hoped for the chance to join Barcelona. He signed for Chelsea. Together their moves are symbolic of an inescapable reality: Spain's best players now aspire to join one of the big two or leave the country altogether. When they do, the gap widens in Spain and the opportunity to close it fades. The super strong get stronger, while the others cannot compete. La Liga is a two-horse race but not because the rest are a bunch of donkeys. And yet bit by bit they get weakened, the inequality becomes more entrenched.

It has always been this way, and not just in Spain. It's only natural: big fish eats little fish. The standout players at other clubs have long since gravitated to Madrid or Barcelona and it would be wise not to overreact; departures do not necessarily signal impending doom.

Valencia sold their best two players last summer and returned to the Champions League positions, rebuilding cleverly. They have history too: When they won the league in 2003, it was after selling Gaizka Mendieta, Claudio López and Gerard. They constructed a fantastically competitive squad last summer and have moved astutely this year, signing Parejo, Piatti and Canales.

Julio Baptista left Sevilla for Real Madrid in 2005, having scored 50 goals in the previous two seasons. The following season, with the Beast no longer on their team, Sevilla won the UEFA Cup. The year after they won another UEFA Cup, the Copa del Rey, and the European Super Cup, and went into the final day of the season with a chance of winning the league. Fernando Torres walked out of Atlético Madrid in 2007. He had always refused to join Madrid and Barcelona wasn't interested so he went to Liverpool. The following season, Atlético returned to the Champions League for the first time in 11 years.

None of that means the problem is not real, though. Though they were able to finish third last season, Valencia ended 21 points behind second-place Real Madrid. And when Atlético finally returned to the Champions League in 2008, they were led by Sergio Aguero. For the last three or four years Aguero could make a convincing case to be the best player in Spain, not at Madrid or Barcelona. So, inevitably, he tried to go to Madrid. He was, though, at the wrong club: Atlético's visceral refusal to sell to their rivals forced him to go abroad.

He was hardly going to stay. Why would the best players stay? How could they? A tipping point has been reached and players know that: Unless they are at one of the big two, they cannot seriously expect to compete for trophies. And, unlike before, the social, political historical and economic differences -- dealt with in parts I, IIand III -- mean that it is hard to see that situation ever changing. Money has become a greater determinant than ever. A combined league table from the last three seasons reads: Barcelona 282 points; Madrid 266; Valencia 204; Sevilla 191; Villarreal 183; Atlético 172.

Madrid and Barcelona, whose stranglehold on the league and other clubs is absolute, have no intention of redistributing talent, wealth or opportunity. There is no concept of the league as the product; the LFP is a loose, disparate collection of clubs with wildly different interests, each looking out for their own in which two clubs beat the rest every time.

Look at that three-year league table again: Each of the 'other' four has lost their best players in the last three years. Their destination: The big two or a different country, a different league. Aguero is just another example. Dani Alves left Sevilla for Barcelona. Valencia has lost David Silva, David Villa (to Barcelona) and, now, Juan Mata. Atlético has lost Aguero and Forlán is about to go too (although the signing of Falcao is tremendously exciting). Villarreal has just lost Santi Cazorla. Last season's outstanding performer beyond the big two was striker Giuseppe Rossi (he wanted a move to Barcelona but, in the end, wasn't able to get it).

Over the last five years, if you had to compile a list of the five best players in Spain outside Real Madrid and Barcelona, it would almost certainly read: David Villa, David Silva, Sergio Aguero, Dani Alves and Diego Forlán. Only Forlán is where he was -- and not for much longer. It goes deeper too. When Sergio Canales burst onto the scene with Racing Santander, it was electrifying. Here was a genuinely special player, destined for great things. Within a year, Madrid had swept him up. A year after that, having had little genuine use for him, they tossed him out on loan -- so long as he does not play against them.

Mata's departure means that every one of Valencia's World Cup winners have gone. When Spain won the 2008 European Championships, Valencia had four players in the squad, Villarreal three, Barcelona three and Real Madrid two. Two years later, when Spain won the World Cup, that list had changed, largely because of signings. It read: Barcelona seven, Real Madrid five, Valencia two, Villarreal one. The two Valencia players, Villa and Silva, had completed moves before the tournament was even finished.

In 2010-2011, the soccer statisticians Opta put together an objective stats-based team of the season. Of the outfield players, only Juan Mata (Valencia) and Santi Cazorla (Villarreal) did not play for Madrid and Barcelona. Now, they have both left. Cazorla, who would have been Villarreal's second player in South Africa but for injury, has moved for possibly £19 million ($31M) -- a move that helps to explain Villarreal's ability to resist bids for Rossi and keep him at the Madrigal. For now.

There was interest from England -- Liverpool and Chelsea both contemplated moves -- but the truth is neither Barcelona nor Madrid wanted Cazorla. There is a glimmer of hope, a shout of ambition, about his signing. He has moved to Málaga but he hasn't moved on from Spain.

Backed by huge investment, Málaga is a club that can keep players in Spain -- one that, in the long term, may be able to alter the landscape a little, shoving a spoke or two in the wheels of the big two. This summer they have, if in a minor way, bucked the trend. Many would reject it, but in signing Cazorla, there was a hint of something else: a hint that Málaga isn't just doing it for themselves, but for everyone else too. For La Liga.
 
The gap bwtween top 2 and rest is so huge, with the sales of Aguero and Mata it will only get worse.

Malaga have bought few good players but they are very far from challenging top 2 and also Champions league spot (Which is bit realistic though).
 
The ridiculous distribution of the TV revenue between clubs in La Liga caused this to happen. With Real Madrid and Barcelona pocketing 50% of it, 15-20% for Sevilla, Atletico Madrid and Valencia while the remaining 30% to be scrapped between the remaining 15 clubs, it's not surprising that it had caused such a loopsided situation in the La Liga. Until the country decides to fix this problem, the main footballing powers in the nation will always be Barcelona, Real Madrid and no one else. Even the football fans of the whole country is divided into either Real Madrid or Barcelona fan. One way or the other.

It'll be a much bleaker situation if you take a look at the clubs at Segunda division or below. The matchday attendance is horrible and there are little to no future for the clubs there. Even the promotion battle aren't as excited as it is in Npower Championship, simply because even if they went up there wouldn't be a significant income increase for the club. In EPL, even the lowest positioned team gets around 20m, but in La Liga they could only manage mere millions.
 
The ridiculous distribution of the TV revenue between clubs in La Liga caused this to happen. With Real Madrid and Barcelona pocketing 50% of it, 15-20% for Sevilla, Atletico Madrid and Valencia while the remaining 30% to be scrapped between the remaining 15 clubs, it's not surprising that it had caused such a loopsided situation in the La Liga. Until the country decides to fix this problem, the main footballing powers in the nation will always be Barcelona, Real Madrid and no one else. Even the football fans of the whole country is divided into either Real Madrid or Barcelona fan. One way or the other.

It'll be a much bleaker situation if you take a look at the clubs at Segunda division or below. The matchday attendance is horrible and there are little to no future for the clubs there. Even the promotion battle aren't as excited as it is in Npower Championship, simply because even if they went up there wouldn't be a significant income increase for the club. In EPL, even the lowest positioned team gets around 20m, but in La Liga they could only manage mere millions.

Sorry but have to disagree... the promotion battle is just as exciting... you just arent exposed to the coverage.... and to say that the country is split into two is ridiculas if you had ever been to a madrid derby you'd know, also watching at the ONO stadium or at home to Betis you would see how well represented the teams are.... I obviously agree with the article it is a problem so to the money issues but your comments are incorrect in my opinion
 
Still think Mata should have gone to Arsenal. ;)

He wanted too, if you want to know why he isent i'd write to your club to demand answers.

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I like to describe the Spanish League as the SPL markII+more ability.
 
To be fair you can say what you want about how the PL is ran, at least people are actually running it and making decisions.

3 promoted teams in La Liga this summer are all in voluntary administration (Bankruptcy) simply as a way of halving their debts.

Can't stress how much of a mess La Liga is, Falcao/Arda to Atleti shows it still has a pull but I think it's on the decline financially.

No one can say La Liga is like the SPL but no one can say it's 'bigger' than the Premier League because frankly it isn't.

Worrying signs for me isn't the exits to the PL it was the exits of players like Canales/Leon/Rodri/Kiko to Madrid/Barce. Those players are what has made La Liga so great, a depth of young quality throughout the league and now the top 2 are herding them all in like cattle to their B teams. That's my worry along with the financial one.
 
Agree with the article on some points but it's a bit sensationalist; two players leaving the league does not signify its downfall and the possible arrival of one player (Falcao) is not a serious sign of anything positive, either. The TV deal is a big part of it but also it's Spain's economic situation (one of the worst in Europe). Now that the credit glut has ended capital flows to Spain have been reversed, which means the football clubs have been squeezed very tightly. The strike shows how bad things are. I'm afraid La Liga will go downhill simply because economically it cannot compete with the Premiership or Germany. La Liga really should have had a collective TV deal like the Prem and then marketed it effectively to other countries. With its style of play it could have easily attracted just as many foreign viewers as the Prem (well maybe not quite as many since you don't get the crowd who wants to learn English, but you get my point).

The quality is there much more than people give it credit for and the SPL comments are so ignorant and annoying and I don't see why people feel the need to constantly bash another league like that, it's not like Italians and Spaniards felt the need to bash the Prem in the 90's and 00's when it was a step below. In 08-09, Spain had six Champions League caliber teams that were all fantastic and as good as anything in the Premiership. But they've all had rough financial times in the past couple years. Valencia had to sell Villa and Silva last season and now Mata. They are very well-coached though and play well as a unit and it'll be interesting to see how they recover. They always find great young talent on the cheap and develop them so we'll see who comes next. I think they'll do fine in the league and will be able to consistently beat the lesser teams but will be unable to do much in the Champions League without great individual talent. Atletico had to sell Aguero, although other than that it's essentially the same team that got into the Champions League and was amazing in 08-09 (poor coaching since then has been the main cause of their decline). Sevilla has had to get rid of some good players and has had some coaching issues as well and then of course stumbled to Braga a year ago. Villarreal has always been a solid team that plays a great brand of football (my favorite team to watch in Spain over the past few years other than Barcelona). They had a rough time replacing Pellegrini but were very good last season.

But what people seriously underestimate is the depth of this league. Deportivo de la Coruna, who was in the Champions League semi-finals on multiple occasions only a few seasons ago, just got relegated. Sevilla and Atletico are very talented teams and look how poorly they did last season. They were nowhere near the top 4. It's because the league is very deep from top to bottom and there are no easy games. People point to the success of Barca and Real Madrid but these teams are exceptional. The former is arguably one of the best teams in history and the latter is arguably the best ever on paper. They would tear up any league.

And lastly, La Liga's financial woes aren't entirely bad for Spanish football. It forces the teams to develop youth talent cheaply rather than simply buy overpriced established players from other leagues. This is why Spain's NT is so good right now and so deep (Spain's B team is just about as good as any NT in the world). The amazing financial power of the Prem means that it has a lot of great teams and athletes but it ultimately hurts the English and young talent in the league. The clubs don't have the incentive to develop young talent and have to buy expensive established players to compete with the other teams. English youth players then don't get the chance to develop and that's why at the moment the English NT isn't as talented as it used to be.
 
Agree with the article on some points but it's a bit sensationalist; two players leaving the league does not signify its downfall and the possible arrival of one player (Falcao) is not a serious sign of anything positive, either. The TV deal is a big part of it but also it's Spain's economic situation (one of the worst in Europe). Now that the credit glut has ended capital flows to Spain have been reversed, which means the football clubs have been squeezed very tightly. The strike shows how bad things are. I'm afraid La Liga will go downhill simply because economically it cannot compete with the Premiership or Germany. La Liga really should have had a collective TV deal like the Prem and then marketed it effectively to other countries. With its style of play it could have easily attracted just as many foreign viewers as the Prem (well maybe not quite as many since you don't get the crowd who wants to learn English, but you get my point).

The quality is there much more than people give it credit for and the SPL comments are so ignorant and annoying and I don't see why people feel the need to constantly bash another league like that, it's not like Italians and Spaniards felt the need to bash the Prem in the 90's and 00's when it was a step below. In 08-09, Spain had six Champions League caliber teams that were all fantastic and as good as anything in the Premiership. But they've all had rough financial times in the past couple years. Valencia had to sell Villa and Silva last season and now Mata. They are very well-coached though and play well as a unit and it'll be interesting to see how they recover. They always find great young talent on the cheap and develop them so we'll see who comes next. I think they'll do fine in the league and will be able to consistently beat the lesser teams but will be unable to do much in the Champions League without great individual talent. Atletico had to sell Aguero, although other than that it's essentially the same team that got into the Champions League and was amazing in 08-09 (poor coaching since then has been the main cause of their decline). Sevilla has had to get rid of some good players and has had some coaching issues as well and then of course stumbled to Braga a year ago. Villarreal has always been a solid team that plays a great brand of football (my favorite team to watch in Spain over the past few years other than Barcelona). They had a rough time replacing Pellegrini but were very good last season.

But what people seriously underestimate is the depth of this league. Deportivo de la Coruna, who was in the Champions League semi-finals on multiple occasions only a few seasons ago, just got relegated. Sevilla and Atletico are very talented teams and look how poorly they did last season. They were nowhere near the top 4. It's because the league is very deep from top to bottom and there are no easy games. People point to the success of Barca and Real Madrid but these teams are exceptional. The former is arguably one of the best teams in history and the latter is arguably the best ever on paper. They would tear up any league.

And lastly, La Liga's financial woes aren't entirely bad for Spanish football. It forces the teams to develop youth talent cheaply rather than simply buy overpriced established players from other leagues. This is why Spain's NT is so good right now and so deep (Spain's B team is just about as good as any NT in the world). The amazing financial power of the Prem means that it has a lot of great teams and athletes but it ultimately hurts the English and young talent in the league. The clubs don't have the incentive to develop young talent and have to buy expensive established players to compete with the other teams. English youth players then don't get the chance to develop and that's why at the moment the English NT isn't as talented as it used to be.

hardly sensationalist, Sid Lowe knows the league better than pretty much any other journalist. Great the national team is strong, while the league itself collapses.
There isnt any real depth to the side, even spanish commentators and journalist acknowledge this

And your last sentence is just plain flawed, and in fairness ignorant of england
 
The problems with Spanish football did not start with the economic crisis, they have been there fora very long time, they have merely been exacerbated by it.

Lowe is right, Barcelona and real madrid have no intention of giving up their share of the TV rights, and the gap will only grow
 
To be fair you can say what you want about how the PL is ran, at least people are actually running it and making decisions.

3 promoted teams in La Liga this summer are all in voluntary administration (Bankruptcy) simply as a way of halving their debts.

Can't stress how much of a mess La Liga is, Falcao/Arda to Atleti shows it still has a pull but I think it's on the decline financially.

No one can say La Liga is like the SPL but no one can say it's 'bigger' than the Premier League because frankly it isn't.

Worrying signs for me isn't the exits to the PL it was the exits of players like Canales/Leon/Rodri/Kiko to Madrid/Barce. Those players are what has made La Liga so great, a depth of young quality throughout the league and now the top 2 are herding them all in like cattle to their B teams. That's my worry along with the financial one.

La Liga is in a mess, but people ignore it because the national team is so strong. Like Nero fiddling while Rome burns...
 
Simplest way to put the La Liga gap:

Real Madrid and Barcelona get 135m pounds each in TV revenue every season.

Valencia get around 30m pounds in TV revenue.

Getafe barely get 15m pounds in TV revenue.

In the simplest form that explains the gap between the two colossus' and 'the rest'.
 
hardly sensationalist, Sid Lowe knows the league better than pretty much any other journalist. Great the national team is strong, while the league itself collapses.
There isnt any real depth to the side, even spanish commentators and journalist acknowledge this

When did I say Spain wasn't in trouble? I agreed that it is, I just didn't like that he used two sales as evidence for his downfall (and then the fact that Falcao was coming in as a point of optimism). Their is plenty of depth to the Spanish side, not sure how you could think otherwise. When players like Mata and Silva and Cazorla only sniff the pitch when their starters are resting it's pretty obvious there's a lot of depth. What kind of team has players like that coming off their bench? Even at keeper they're stacked. They have Reina and Valdes as back-ups.

And your last sentence is just plain flawed, and in fairness ignorant of england

Care to explain why? The fiscal crisis of the Spanish clubs forces them to find cheap young talent, develop it, and sell it. The only exception is Real Madrid. Barcelona does it to a certain extent, and top clubs like Villarreal and Valencia make it their philosophy. Would ManCity or Chelsea do that? There is so much money in English football and the pressure is so high that it makes sense to buy established players than take a risk on developing youth. Obviously it's a generalization and there are English clubs that do this (Arsenal would be the best example) but at the moment it seems to me that La Liga is the best of the big leagues in the Europe right now for developing young players, ironically because of how poor their finances are.
 
Does anyone think the constant poisenous spats between Real and Barca may spill over into the Spainish national side??
 
But what people seriously underestimate is the depth of this league. Deportivo de la Coruna, who was in the Champions League semi-finals on multiple occasions only a few seasons ago, just got relegated. Sevilla and Atletico are very talented teams and look how poorly they did last season. They were nowhere near the top 4. It's because the league is very deep from top to bottom and there are no easy games. People point to the success of Barca and Real Madrid but these teams are exceptional. The former is arguably one of the best teams in history and the latter is arguably the best ever on paper. They would tear up any league.

As far as I can see the depth of the Spanish league is worse than that of the Serie A, Bundesliga and Premiership. Deportivo might have been great a few years ago, but things change. Sevilla has been on the fall and so has Atletico in a way. I wouldn't say Levante is a particularly talented team yet they are a mid-table team?

Does anyone think the constant poisenous spats between Real and Barca may spill over into the Spainish national side??

I doubt it.
 
When did I say Spain wasn't in trouble? I agreed that it is, I just didn't like that he used two sales as evidence for his downfall (and then the fact that Falcao was coming in as a point of optimism). Their is plenty of depth to the Spanish side, not sure how you could think otherwise. When players like Mata and Silva and Cazorla only sniff the pitch when their starters are resting it's pretty obvious there's a lot of depth. What kind of team has players like that coming off their bench? Even at keeper they're stacked. They have Reina and Valdes as back-ups.



Care to explain why? The fiscal crisis of the Spanish clubs forces them to find cheap young talent, develop it, and sell it. The only exception is Real Madrid. Barcelona does it to a certain extent, and top clubs like Villarreal and Valencia make it their philosophy. Would ManCity or Chelsea do that? There is so much money in English football and the pressure is so high that it makes sense to buy established players than take a risk on developing youth. Obviously it's a generalization and there are English clubs that do this (Arsenal would be the best example) but at the moment it seems to me that La Liga is the best of the big leagues in the Europe right now for developing young players, ironically because of how poor their finances are.

Im talking about the league sides, the obvious disparaties in the league depth, the national team is irrelevant. The fiscal crisis has been caused by poor boardroom management and shortcuts to get out of the debt, this article is just a series that he has done highlighting the long term flaws of the league structure. What's happening is the economic crisis has shown just flimsy and poor this approach was. The poor finances isn't really to do with development, and plenty of clubs develop their talent in england, big and small (united liverpool for example) you talk as if spanish sides don't buy established players, when in fact they do.

Its a simple fact, players look to play for the top two, or go somewhere else. they are just two examples this season. Rossi wanted Barca, Silva went to City, Villa went to Barca

There is a lot of money in spain, the difference is that its so utterly unbalanced in distribution. And this is this what doesnt bode well for La Liga, this is what he's talking about. Look at the recent strikes, the money not being paid in two years
 
When did I say Spain wasn't in trouble? I agreed that it is, I just didn't like that he used two sales as evidence for his downfall (and then the fact that Falcao was coming in as a point of optimism). Their is plenty of depth to the Spanish side, not sure how you could think otherwise. When players like Mata and Silva and Cazorla only sniff the pitch when their starters are resting it's pretty obvious there's a lot of depth. What kind of team has players like that coming off their bench? Even at keeper they're stacked. They have Reina and Valdes as back-ups.



Care to explain why? The fiscal crisis of the Spanish clubs forces them to find cheap young talent, develop it, and sell it. The only exception is Real Madrid. Barcelona does it to a certain extent, and top clubs like Villarreal and Valencia make it their philosophy. Would ManCity or Chelsea do that? There is so much money in English football and the pressure is so high that it makes sense to buy established players than take a risk on developing youth. Obviously it's a generalization and there are English clubs that do this (Arsenal would be the best example) but at the moment it seems to me that La Liga is the best of the big leagues in the Europe right now for developing young players, ironically because of how poor their finances are.

How can you quote Madrid as being the exception to developing talent, and then use City and Chelsea as examples of England not doing it? Really? Spain is a very technically gifted league, it makes sense for them to develop their own because they invest in it and encourage technique from an early age. English youth are coached from a young age that winning is everything, to throw themselves into tackles at the sacrifice of technical ability. These facts go a long way to explain a few trends. No other country wants our players bar a few exceptions, most of the English play their football in England, and except for a few of our outstanding players, there's not even foreign interest in them. The premium put on English players is because the top English teams need to fulfil their homegrown quota, heightening need, thus demand and thus price. Spain, Italy etc. have these rules but pay no premium for domestic players, because of the downward pressure from foreign leagues on their players price.

It's the nature of the law of unintended consequences in action. We don't train our youth effectively to be technically proficient, giving less choice for clubs to develop their own players, forcing them to buy foreign players, causing other leagues to suffer from losing their best talent to the PL (As in the article). It then makes perfect economic sense for La Liga clubs to bring through young, talented players. Often they may have come through the system or bought for very cheap, then the inevitable interest from PL/Big 2 creates massive profit for them, helping to offset the differences in finances.
 
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