Nike Swoosh Defence

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Hello. I am new to the Forums but have played FM10 and just got FM11. I seem to be doing pretty well in my league despite the fact that I had been conceding lots of goals. I uploaded AL's 4-2-3-1 Pass and Move into my game and took what I thought were the best parts and used those parts of the tactic in my own 4-4-2 cause I don't like using other people's tactics cause it seems to me like cheating. So I then used the Nike Swoosh Defence in my 4-4-2. In my next 6 games I scored 19 and conceded 6. So I'm guessing the Nike Swoosh looks like this based on the mentality's being the following:

Goalie: 7
Fullback:10
Fullback:10
Centre Back- Stopper- 8
Centre Back- Cover- 6

I'm guessing it will look like this (The X is my team. O is the other and the colored in O is the ball).
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But when the ball is on the other side of the field, won't it look like this.
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That looks a little unbalanced. Using those mentality ticks, will the Nike Swoosh automatically switch when the ball is on the other side of the field, or will it leave gaps or even men on the back post?


I need some help.
 
You sir, are a hero. Great choice of tactics may I add ;)
 
Those have to be THE worst diagrams ever! lol
 
Is there a way to edit the mentalities so it will switch or is it impossible?
 
My school teams plays the Nike Swoosh Defence, would love to see it on FM :)
 
I hate to be pedantic, but the 'tick' you've drawn on the diagram is the wrong way round :$
 
Nope, theres no way to get it to switch.

I would like to see positional tactics introduced though, but then the AI managers tactics would have to be way more in depth :)
 
Found a slight solution. I will switch the mentalities based on the strength of the other team's outside midfieldiers/wingers.
 
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As we're talking about nike defence, just a couple of questions...

suitable defence line for nike defence? I guess normal/high?

closing down settings for defenders and defensive midfielder?

man marking or zonal defence? I usually have fullbacks man marking and centre backs zonal, what's best for nike defence?

thanks in any case.
 
Btw, the Nike defence doesn't really work in FM11. But I play it anyway, with normal to high d-line and man marking, as I'm a lower league team. My fullbacks are set to defend as well.
 
Chaz Sexington said:
Btw, the Nike defence doesn't really work in FM11. But I play it anyway, with normal to high d-line and man marking, as I'm a lower league team. My fullbacks are set to defend as well.
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Thanks, I wanted to give nike defence a try as I've never been really satisfied with my defence since CM 2003-04... my teams usually don't concede many goals (I had best defence in Italian serie C2 in my last save) but I don't really like the spacing & movements (both team & individual) of my defensive players.

I've managed to get my offence playing exactly like I wanted to, too bad I can't say the same about defence. I honestly hate the individual mentality setting thing, it makes no sense to me and I'm pretty sure it's a big cause for my defensive balance struggles!
 
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kandersson said:
Thanks, I wanted to give nike defence a try as I've never been really satisfied with my defence since CM 2003-04... my teams usually don't concede many goals (I had best defence in Italian serie C2 in my last save) but I don't really like the spacing & movements (both team & individual) of my defensive players.

I've managed to get my offence playing exactly like I wanted to, too bad I can't say the same about defence. I honestly hate the individual mentality setting thing, it makes no sense to me and I'm pretty sure it's a big cause for my defensive balance struggles!
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What team are you!? I'm Crociati Noceto, C2/B! I'm the exact same as you, I can't get my defense sorted, but my attack is pretty good! I'm still leaking goals though, but man-marking is definitely a good thing at this level.
 
Chaz Sexington said:
What team are you!? I'm Crociati Noceto, C2/B! I'm the exact same as you, I can't get my defense sorted, but my attack is pretty good! I'm still leaking goals though, but man-marking is definitely a good thing at this level.
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I killed C2-A with Pro Patria (nice wage budget, signed A LOT of free players including minor south american internationals!), now I'm doing fine in C1 battling with a strong Torino side for 1st position.

If you're interested more detalis and screens from my C2 campaign, along with my tactic description, are in my thread:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/f103/kanderssons-4-2-3-1-lefty-won-in-style-italian-t54397.html

cheers!
 
kandersson said:
I killed C2-A with Pro Patria (nice wage budget, signed A LOT of free players including minor south american internationals!), now I'm doing fine in C1 battling with a strong Torino side for 1st position.

If you're interested more detalis and screens from my C2 campaign, along with my tactic description, are in my thread:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/f103/kanderssons-4-2-3-1-lefty-won-in-style-italian-t54397.html

cheers!
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I'll definitely have a look! I took Lucchese to the Serie A in FM10, all the way from Serie C/2! Though, this year I picked Crociati Noceto as they're the least valued team in Italy! They've got 1615 seats and **** all wage budget, so I'm struggling a bit, but just secured my play-off spot last night! Once my first season's done, I'm gonna make a story though!
 
when you add 8 clicks to the cb or whatever, do you defensive or attacking ways?
like, click to make the cb more attacking/ defensive..?
 
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