Player Star Problem

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So all of my players ability and potential stars were downgraded simultaneously by probably around 1 star. I just clicked continue and from one moment to the next this happened? Is this just a way for the game to balance out the squad or there something else going on?
 
Star rating has nothing to do with how good the players are. It's a comparison compared to the other players in your squad.
 
I have players in my Leeds save who are 2 star, Lewis Cook, Alex Mowatt in midfield, Yes they are 2 star which some people would consider poor but they are considered leading stars for most premiership teams, They only look 2 star because i have 2 who are 4 and half star and a 4 star midfielder, The funny thing is Mowatt out performs every one of them season after season, Playing as AP hes averaging 10 goals a season with 10-15 assists, Prior to signing a dead ball specialist he broke 25 assists two seasons running when he was taking freekicks/corners.

I have Andrea Belotti as a striker, Hes managed 40 goals atleast for the past 2 seasons but my coaches say i should set his transfer status to "Not needed" because i have Fierro and Gabbiadini who are both 4 star strikers while Belotti is only 2 stars, I dont listen to them when it comes to my current crop of players, Quite simply if the player is performing hes playing rating be damned, I have Lewis Cook keeping Gil Romero out of my starting 11 despite poorer stats and a much poorer rating from my coaches but Cook has a average rating of 7.59 while Romero is only 7.06.The only stars i pay any notice to is PA from my scouts, Once the player is in my team its the performances that keep them there not some star rating.


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That is one reason i dont listen to my coaches when it comes to star ratings, Ioannis Fetfatzidis is considered a 2 and half star player, 2 times player of the year, 73 goals, 52 assists, 25 PoM awards in 98 games since signing for 3 million, Andrea Belotti has 94 goals, 39 assists, 21 PoM awards in 105 games since joining for 8 million, Both are considered 2 stars by my coaches and its advised i set both of them to "Not needed", 167 goals and 91 assists from a couple of 2 star players, I could sign 2 5 star players and struggle to get the same return from them, Considering Man City, AC Milan, PSG, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man United, Real Madrid, Bayern and Napoli are all interest in atleast one of them with City, Napoli and Milan wanting both i have no idea why my coaches think that despite being wanted by the top clubs in the world they are no longer needed by the almighty Leeds United....
 
I have players in my Leeds save who are 2 star, Lewis Cook, Alex Mowatt in midfield, Yes they are 2 star which some people would consider poor but they are considered leading stars for most premiership teams, They only look 2 star because i have 2 who are 4 and half star and a 4 star midfielder, The funny thing is Mowatt out performs every one of them season after season, Playing as AP hes averaging 10 goals a season with 10-15 assists, Prior to signing a dead ball specialist he broke 25 assists two seasons running when he was taking freekicks/corners.

That covers it all, they rated as 'less important' not 'lower in ability' than other members. Stats over stars is always the way to read a player.

If the played for Man u, they would be one star but same stats, and if they moved to Wycombe, 5 star, same stats.
 
Exactly, Star ratings are nothing to go by, Stats help ofcourse but if i was going by stats alone Fetfatzidis would be on the bench 90% of the time if not sold already, Belotti would have been sold when Madrid offered 54m for him, Judging players of stars or even stats isnt something i really like to do, How they perform with my tactics is all that matters and if they are performing i'm not going to drop them for someone with better stats or a higher star rating who just doesnt perform to the same level, They might not suit my formation or style of play, They might be the type to get a yellow/red card every other game so wont even get a regular run in the team even if i want to give them one.

Given the choice between a 2 star striker in Belotti scoring 40+ a season and a 4 star striker in Fierro scoring 15-20 a season i'll take my 2 star striker all day long, Stars go to Fierro, Stats go to Fierro, Performances go to Belotti, Its a easy choice to make really when it comes to this game the only stats that matter are match stats and those are the stats i look at when chosing my starting 11, Belotti wins out on goals, Assists, PoM, Tackles, Passes, Average rating and aslong as that remains the case he could be a half a star player hes still going to be my 5 star striker.
 
Exactly, Star ratings are nothing to go by, Stats help ofcourse but if i was going by stats alone Fetfatzidis would be on the bench 90% of the time if not sold already, Belotti would have been sold when Madrid offered 54m for him, Judging players of stars or even stats isnt something i really like to do, How they perform with my tactics is all that matters and if they are performing i'm not going to drop them for someone with better stats or a higher star rating who just doesnt perform to the same level, They might not suit my formation or style of play, They might be the type to get a yellow/red card every other game so wont even get a regular run in the team even if i want to give them one.

Given the choice between a 2 star striker in Belotti scoring 40+ a season and a 4 star striker in Fierro scoring 15-20 a season i'll take my 2 star striker all day long, Stars go to Fierro, Stats go to Fierro, Performances go to Belotti, Its a easy choice to make really when it comes to this game the only stats that matter are match stats and those are the stats i look at when chosing my starting 11, Belotti wins out on goals, Assists, PoM, Tackles, Passes, Average rating and aslong as that remains the case he could be a half a star player hes still going to be my 5 star striker.

Exactly how I see it mate. I wont sell Allen because he is a solid performer for me, and I start him ahead of Ward Prowse and sometimes even Isco, he repays me with great games!
 
Star rating has nothing to do with how good the players are. It's a comparison compared to the other players in your squad.

isnt the star ratings also dependent on what expectations you/the board have for the season?
Even without buying any new players most of my players drop a star when the second season comes and the expectations has risen from respectable league position to win the league.
 
isnt the star ratings also dependent on what expectations you/the board have for the season?
Even without buying any new players most of my players drop a star when the second season comes and the expectations has risen from respectable league position to win the league.

They would be players improving in CA from PA.
 
isnt the star ratings also dependent on what expectations you/the board have for the season?
Even without buying any new players most of my players drop a star when the second season comes and the expectations has risen from respectable league position to win the league.

This also plays a part as well yes
 
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Coaches say hes two star, Everyone else says hes the best in the world, No idea what is going on with Messi in the golden boot award saying he only scored 2 goals, He scored 27 in 57 and Suarez in world player of the year actually got 24 in 36, Guess FM decided to mess things up since the two golden boys of football we're beaten to the awards by a Greek nobody.
 
Wanna talk stars? Ok, I'll bite.

Let's have a look at this guy first:

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A left-back from my academy who turned 17 three days ago.
CA = 1.5 stars. PA = 1.5 stars at the least, 2.5 stars at the most.
Rated as: "Good player for most Premier League sides". "Potential to be a useful player". "Potential to be a world class left-back in the future".

Yes, world class players are generally quite useful, thank you. Very rating, such helpful.


Then there's this guy:

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A DM/MC bought from Gremio. 21 years, will turn 22 in a couple months.
CA = 2 stars. PA = 2.5 stars at the least, 3.5 stars at the most.
Rated as: "World class player". "Could improve by a slight amount in the future". "Potential to be a quality player".

A world class player at 2 stars? Wow, 5 stars must be reserved for Elohim. But, he can even improve in the future, and a world class player who improves does sound like quality!


Next up is another left-back:

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Another one from my academy. 18 years old, turns 19 in a month.
CA = 2 stars. PA = 2 stars at the least, 3 stars at the most.
Rated as: "Leading player for most Premier League sides". "Currently playing at close to his full potential". "Potential to be a good player".

Wait, another 2 stars player? But not world class? Well, at least he's a leading player for most teams, although he doesn't seem to be able to improve much more. But a "good player" nevertheless - whatever the **** that means.


Now for the guy with the best name so far:

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Another Brazilian. 22 years old. Can play almost anywhere in midfield and attack, except on the left side.
CA = 2 stars. PA = 2.5 stars.
Rated as: "World class player". "Currently playing at close to his full potential". "Potential to be a good player".

Another 2 stars player, this one is rated as world class. Crazy how nature does that. Anyway, it seems he could improve a little, but not much. But if he does, he certainly has the potential to be a "good player"! That's not bad from a world class pla.. wait, what?


Next up is the only non-regen player:

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You've all heard of him, no introduction needed.
CA = 2.5 stars. PA = 2.5 stars.
Rated as: "World class player". "Unlikely to improve in the future". "Good player".
He's 26 by now, so no surprise that he won't be improving anymore. Luckily he's already world class, so no improvement needed. And as my coach so astutely deduces, he is already a "good player"!



You want my opinion? Star ratings are more likely to deceive you than help you. Don't trust them. In general you can ignore them. I only find them helpful when scouting very young players, but even then I'll never look at just the stars. They can give you a vague impression of the potential of a player, but that's it. Anyone trusting the stars to tell you more than that are doing themselves a disservice. Don't pick your team based on stars, don't decide on transfers based on stars, and sure as **** don't look for logic from your scouts/coaches when comparing star ratings with their summary.

I even had my HOYD scout a player on his own initiative, conclude he wasn't worth signing, and then making a bid for him. Thanks a lot, Bernhard Peters, you sure are world class and a model professional! But I do have to thank you though, for finding the only player in my team who is now rated as 4.5 stars, worth almost £50m and signing him for a measly £325K from some club in the Ivory Coast I can't spell the name of. At least you have that going for you. But then again, if 2 stars is enough to be called world class, what's 4.5 stars? Intergalactic superstar? Demigod? I better ask my coach, though he would probably call him "a useful player".
 
Thread of epic missing the point. ;)

It appears there is a bug by which the star ratings change with each load of the game and youngsters are shown as having same potential rating than current rating as per what I saw this morning in a GoldenFM video. I myself haven't observed it because I don't pay mind to the stars. And that's what I think is pointed out and asked on by the OP.
 
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