Randomness

[brodiefitz]

I've played CM and FM games for a long time and really enjoy them. However I wonder how much of the control we have over the outcomes in the game are actually just too random.

I'm playing a game where I had a league game vs Port Vale and drew 0-0. Unfortunately, a thunderstorm caused a powercut and had to replay it. without changing any tactics, players subs or team talk I lost 2-0 on the replay. I decided to try again to get a draw (for fairness) and without changing a single variable I won 3-1.

0-0, 2-0 loss and 3-1 win using exactly the same variables for each game. I stopped playing FML because it seemed totally random and I believe still to this day that this is the reason for it's demise.

My understanding is that the developers look at RL results and try to simulate them with the ME. However I could create a program that simulates a 0.67 % success rate for teams with the same success rate irl just by using a RNG.

Is there too much randomness in results and how do the developers and fans of the game justify the fact that using the same set of variables for a match I can get such completely different results every time.

 

[Athe~]

Now, isn't football 'random' sometimes? Who would've guess United would've been a mere couple of minutes away from losing at home to Basel? If that match was to be replayed a thousand times I believe you would hardly ever get the same result. If results were pre-set, what would be the point in playing the game?

 

[InValide jr]

players have good days and bad days deal with it

 

[Steve*]

Theres a similar thread about this where some people think the game is scripted. Results arent random... Otherwise it would be possible for a team like blackpool to win the league in the first season...Just think about it.

Sometimes players have a realy good day and sometimes there poor. This isnt exactly random either as it takes inot account several factors. Also the outcome of a game can be shaped inside the first 5 minutes by which team gets off to a better start. An early goal or dominationg the possesion can be key

 

[Spleen]

I'm finding it difficult to think of how you could get 22 people to behave more randomly than to divide them in two groups and tell them to chase a ball around a field. Even if you hire someone to tell them to stay in particular places and chase it at different times, any physicist can tell you how futile it can be to impose order on chaos.

If I had to repeat games and found they finished in exactly the same way each time, I'd have to give up on FM knowing it was rigged.

 

[Athe~]

Theres a similar thread about this where some people think the game is scripted. Results arent random... Otherwise it would be possible for a team like blackpool to win the league in the first season...Just think about it.

Not disagreeing with you, but I seem to recall someone winning the league with Blackpool in the first season. May be wrong, though. I tried and the best I could do was 7th

 

[Redrup]

That's football.