"Suddenly" everyone just easliy break the defensive line, Why?

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I happened with my latest game. Why suddenly everyone just break my defensive line even I set it to "Contain & Drop very deep".

14" (1 - 0) setting was Counter, Rigid, "Drop Deeper"
32" (2 - 0) setting was Counter, Rigid, "Drop Deeper"
57" (3 - 0) setting was Counter, Rigid, "Drop Deeper", and opponent started to push so, I went defensive
67" (3 - 1) setting was Defensive, Rigid, "Drop Deeper", and Adebayor passed my defense, 1on1 with GK
69" (3 - 2) setting was Defensive, Rigid, "Drop Very Deep", and Adebayor still passed my defense, 1on1 with GK
80" (3 - 3) setting was Contain, Rigid, "Drop Very Deep", and now Paulinho passed my defense, 1on1 with GK
85" (3 - 4) Adebayor passed my defense again, 1on1 with GK Okay, That's it....... TT&F is a lie.

When opponent starts to get pass the defensive line, what you suppose to do is "Drop Deeper" isn't it? I wouldn't say anything if I was conceded by a long shot! I have attach the pkm here View attachment 393623.

Can anyone tell me what's the right instruction when the opponent starts to break the defensive line? since what I've been reading is already invalid.
 
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I would've thought so,I'm not sure what else to add, hope someone can answer you better then I just did
 
What are your defensive instructions? "Hassle opponents" "stand off opponents" "get stuck in" "stay on feet"
 
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What are your defensive instructions? "Hassle opponents" "stand off opponents" "get stuck in" "stay on feet"
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I think It's "Hassle Opponents" and No tackling instruction.

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I viewed the match again and 2 of the goals was because my DC pushed up, and I don't even know why. Though, "Drop Very Deep" is not suppose to look like this. I can see huge space between my defensive lines and the goal keeper. That's very strange :(


Right now I don't even know what to believe anymore. Because as I read and apply something into my team, I don't even know if it was right! It's not like if I tell Coutinho to run with the ball and he's going to run with the ball all the time. There are no way to prove what I've been doing is right.
 
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Pongpyng said:
I think It's "Hassle Opponents" and No tackling instruction.

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I viewed the match again and 2 of the goals was because my DC pushed up, and I don't even know why. Though, "Drop Very Deep" is not suppose to look like this. I can see huge space between my defensive lines and the goal keeper. That's very strange :(


Right now I don't even know what to believe anymore. Because as I read and apply something into my team, I don't even know if it was right! It's not like if I tell Coutinho to run with the ball and he's going to run with the ball all the time. There are no way to prove what I've been doing is right.
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try using "stand off opponents" and set both center backs to "cover" also put someone in the "half back" role or play with 2 "DM" also looks to me that its the wingers playing the through balls so maybe have your wingers to mark there's? and set instructions for the wide players to be closed down quickly

Let me know if this helps
 
Thank you, I've applied "stand off opponents" and it somehow seemed to work, I'm not sure. I can't really tell.

Actually, I have many question about instruction that I would like opinions. Like this one happening right now.

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From the screenshot, conceded by a one-on-one situation again. I have one DC set as cover. The team was on "Drop Deeper" and "Stand Off Opponents", but the defensive line still look too high. Unlike the last time with Tottenham Hotspur, the mentality has set to "Control" so I have a choice to either "Much Deeper Defensive" or set the mentality to "Standard" as what I read from TT&F, mentality will also drop the defensive line as well. What do I choose? and what is the signal telling that I should use which one? and do I have to change the formation just to cope with every situations, won't the team lose that tactic familiarity?

PS. The signal, I really need that in many situation and I'm still confuse. On which situation I should use "Run At Defense", what is the signal? as well "Pass Into Space", and "Go Route One". I watch the game full match and trying to figure out how to make the right, or not wrong, decision here.
 
Okay, dropping DM didn't work at all. Worse is I lost possession in the midfield. Spending 40 minutes watching a real-time losing match against lower level team is completely torturing. I did everything I could. What do I do? What's wrong with my plan?

I've been playing Football Manager since FM2005 but I can't find the right way to have fun in this game until now. I tried so hard to find the right way of setting tactic from all the website around the internet. I've wasted 9 years of my life reading and playing this game to have fun but up to now, I couldn't find any. What do I read, seriously, I'm paying for any manual, instruction, taking course or anything here.
 
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how are you trying to play? send me the tactic and ill see if i can help:)
 
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