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i didn't know where to ask..so..

can anyone give me a link to a little program named tacgrab...

thx
 
It seems fairly pointless too me. It doesn't take the player instructions, just the Formation and the Team Instructions.
 
Sounds interesting,we can find out what makes Arsenal so unbeatable.
You can find out the AI tactics with the data editor.
 
supposedly, it shows you the complete list of tactics that the AI is using, i've found it on a Russian page and although i've picked up a bit of russian from Rosseta stone i cant understand where they downloaded it from, the only other page ive found it on is korean, and i cant manage to sign up for the download, so i can help with this.
 
if this can tell you what tactic your opponent is using then its not pointless

update: google told me that Tacgrab only can tell you team instructions, no individual players
 
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YounG said:
if this can tell you what tactic your opponent is using then its not pointless

update: google told me that Tacgrab only can tell you team instructions, no individual players
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from what i gathered in Russian, they said something about through balls and run with ball settings, so that would insinuate that you cant see those...

...but then again i could be wrong, my Russian is atrocious, its not a Latin based language so being able to speak Latin is no help unlike most western european languages.
 
well this is the best i could find about TacGrab, not including Russian forums cuz simply i cannot read russian

Every Championship team seems to use a global mentality 4-4-2, with forward runs on all four midfielders. Wingers have no individual instructions except run with ball and cross often, and both central midfielders have exactly the same instructions (forward runs and through balls often), while both strikers are the same generic settings (everything set to mixed, global mentality and CF). Basically, it looks like the sort of beginners tactic you'd set up in 30 seconds, with no individual instructions and no defensive minded/holding midfielder, yet it's so effective. Makes me wonder just how much of a difference taking the time to set individual mentalities and instructions for each position really is.

EDIT - Just realised the program doesn't grab the individual instructions, only the team ones.
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JP Woody said:
Sounds interesting,we can find out what makes Arsenal so unbeatable.
You can find out the AI tactics with the data editor.
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i can tell you what makes Arsenal unbeatable. its the balance of Youth + Speed + Pace. looks like this is key formula in FM 09. now try to manage two teams, playing identical tactic and stuff, one team with young talented players like Van Persie or Fabregas, other with old experienced players like Beckham or Van Nistelrooy (even if their stats are better). i can sure you that you get better results with young talented players, trust me ive tested it out already
 
YounG said:
i can tell you what makes Arsenal unbeatable. its the balance of Youth + Speed + Pace. looks like this is key formula in FM 09. now try to manage two teams, playing identical tactic and stuff, one team with young talented players like Van Persie or Fabregas, other with old experienced players like Beckham or Van Nistelrooy (even if their stats are better). i can sure you that you get better results with young talented players, trust me ive tested it out already
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Under 9.1 they were all at least 10% higher in CA than they should have been. That's changed a bit under 9.2 for some players, and the whole squad will be done for 9.3. That goes a long way to making them 'unbeatable' ;)


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Not sure what the point of tacgrab is. Individual instructions outweigh team instructions. I'm sure the default tactics are what the AI uses anyways - the very same ones that you can use from the dropdown menu.
 
Seems pretty useless to me.if the Game is gonna tell you other teams instructions
 
Craven said:
Seems pretty useless to me.
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thanks for uploading it, mate... BUT it's not working... rar file is empty... could you upload it again?

Guys, some of you above mentioned about a Russian website... could you give the link.. I do speak Russian as well... so, I'll be happy to explore it and put the results here.. cheers!

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YounG said:
i can tell you what makes Arsenal unbeatable. its the balance of Youth + Speed + Pace. looks like this is key formula in FM 09. now try to manage two teams, playing identical tactic and stuff, one team with young talented players like Van Persie or Fabregas, other with old experienced players like Beckham or Van Nistelrooy (even if their stats are better). i can sure you that you get better results with young talented players, trust me ive tested it out already
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I have been trying to beat Arsenal for 2 seasons now.. and I think I'm managing it finally... ! I've signed Carlos Vela from them for ManUtd team, also I already had Henri Saivet and started using from this season onwards......

So far, pretty good... in FM09, Arsenal is unbeatable for the first 2 seasons.... afta that they start slipping up .... Yesterday, they lost it to Sevilla in European Super Cup and also had a draw with Middlessborough..... :) just a year ago in the game, they used to beat such team at least by 5:0 or more....
 
juve_man said:
how??
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Go on the Data Editor,type in say Arsene Wenger if thats what tactics you want,then go to non player data,then click on tactical attributes.This will tell you how he sets his team up but not the individual player instructions.Directness means passing,flamboyancy means creative freedom.;)
 
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JP Woody said:
Go on the Data Editor,type in say Arsene Wenger if thats what tactics you want,then go to non player data,then click on tactical attributes.This will tell you how he sets his team up but not the individual player instructions.Directness means passing,flamboyancy means creative freedom.;)
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thx
 
Shukhratbek said:
thanks for uploading it, mate... BUT it's not working... rar file is empty... could you upload it again?
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There, should be working now.

To use it, save a match and open the PKM with this and it will show you the tactic used for home and away teams. Do not try to open your saved game file as that will not work.
 
sorry mate but i rly dont get how to use this program. when i open it, simple white table appears with two options - load and save. i cant browse anything nor drag anything into it.

 
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