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**No more requests for the moment please. Need to test out patch 9.3 first so expect the following some time early next week:

4-5-1 Role Theory
4-4-2 Role Theory - done
4-4-2 Rule of One
4-2-3-1 Bands of Two
4-4-2 Bands of Two - done

**


Wonder how this will work in practice, but in theory it seems sound...

I'll use the TT&F guidelines and take one request at a time for a formation based on a specific mentality and make the basic tactical set for that formation in the mentality style. So all you need to request is the mentality system you want, the formation and the level (league) of the team you want it for.

The sets will not be tested. No way on earth can I test them. But they will be solid enough for you to experiment with to tweak correctly.

The mentality systems used in the TT&F are as follows:

The Nike Defence

Manager Type: José Mourinho

Although this mentality structure is basically an adaption of the Rule of One , it is ideally suited to those that wish to play the Mourinho way. It is exceedingly control-orientated and specifies more individual mentality settings than any other system. It closely mirrors Mourinho's tactics in two ways. Firstly, it employs an athletic covering DC to support a powerful destroyer in the manner of the Carvalho/Terry Chelsea partnership. Secondly, the MCd sits slightly deeper than he would in the Rule of One, which equates to how Mourinho employed Makélélé. Like all Rule of One tactics, it suits the Mourinho-type manager as it can do well without excessive creative freedom.
Credit: Justified

The Libero Defence


Manager Type: Fabio Capello

As with the Nike Defence, the Libero Defence is a reworking of the Rule of One. Like Mourinho, Capello is very specific about how he wishes each of his players to perform and always employs a deep holding midfielder. However, unlike Mourinho he encourages one of his DCs to advance forward with the ball in the manner of a classic Libero, as seen by Rio Ferdinand's performances under Capello for England. Allowing a deeper defensive line than the Nike Defence, the Libero Defence better suits the type of controlled, possession football Capello prefers in contrast to Mourinho's direct, muscular approach.
Credit: Jaswarbrick

Rule of One

Manager Type: Martin O'Neill

The Rule of One plays roughly in the same manner as a Martin O'Neill tactic. Like Mourinho and Capello, O'Neill is very fastidious about tactics and expects each of his players to fulfil a specific function. However, he has had much less chance to work with genuinely world-class players, which has led to him employing a more generic system into which players of lesser quality are able to operate. In applying detailed specific mentality and player instructions, O'Neill can overachieve without the need for highly creative or flair players in his attacking line. Relying on detailed tactical structure enables him to employ lowish levels of creative freedom without a drop in performance.
Credit: wwfan

Bands of Two


Manager Type: Alex Ferguson

Sir Alex is the first manager that deviates from a very tight control methodology. Manchester Utd's system, most especially in the Queiroz years, operates through four bands of play. While the central defenders are predominantly instructed to defend (unlike when playing for Capello, Ferdinand stays back) the full backs and defensive midfielder offer deep support for the front line alongside their defensive duties. The attacking midfielder and wingers have become virtually interchangeable, switching roles in the high support band, and are usually allowed their creative heads. The final band is the spearhead forward, ideally a complete player who is comfortable playing with the ball at his feet or in the air.
Credit: wwfan & Millie

Role Theory

Manager Type: Arsene Wenger

Moving towards the more expressive mentality systems, in which control structure meets individual responsibility, we find Arsene Wenger. Unlike the other systems, here the mentality matches the player role within the team's overall match strategy and thus changes depending on how many players are assigned to specific roles (see pages 18-19). When playing an attacking strategy (see page 32), the five attacking roles are on the same mentality, whereas when playing a defensive system (see page 33), five roles are assigned defensive mentalities. The player's role rather than his individual skills or team system becomes the most important aspect of play. When everything fits into place and all the roles interact perfectly, the football is magical.
Credit: wwfan & Millie

2-6-2 Mentality


Manager Type: Marcelo Lippi

Lippi's teams have traditionally been some of the more expressive in Italian football, partly to do with his charismatic manner generating team spirit, but mainly due to his flexible approach to tactics. The 2-6-2 system allows considerable flexibility in the middle of the park, with six players interlinking as support group for the attack and defence. As with most Italian approaches, this system can frustrate opponents by dominating possession deep on the pitch as the back two interact with the midfield in an eight player passing system prior to instantaneously turning defence into attack as one of the front players is suddenly picked out in space.
Credit: zagallo

5x5 Theory


Manager Type: Rafa Benitez

Although Benitez doesn't come immediately to mind as a Libertarian, his structural approach to tactics is a simple one, relying on five players to defend and five to attack. Although he has transformed Liverpool into a team that is very difficult to break down, criticisms remain with regard to his attacking intentions and lack of width. In typical Spanish manner, Benitez wants his front five to play with creativity and flair, unlocking opposing defences via quick-fire passing interchanges. Without players who have the vision and touch to unlock defences in tight areas this translates into many efficient but dour matches. However, with the right players and creative freedom allowances up front, scintillating attacking play will complement resolute defence.
Credit: Asmodeus

Global Mentality


Manager Type: Kevin Keegan

Global mentality suits a manager who is willing to give players their heads and relies heavily on motivation techniques to get the best out of them. When the team is playing well, the global system is capable of outstanding football. However, its relative lack of defensive cover and a tendency to be compressed means that, when things are going less well, it can be outflanked on the counter and squeezed out when attacking. To combat that it requires heavy levels of creative freedom and players who can make the best use of it alongside excellent team discipline and determination. For a manager confident of his team-talks and media interaction it can be a great system.

I'll try to do a set every day or so depending on how well I am.
 
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Sounds like a monumental task. I'd love to have a go at tweaking a wenger type system. Needless to say i'd report back and upload any usefull tactics that spawn from it.
 
could yo please try and get a martin o'neil tactic for me. im playing as hearts, a mid table team in scotland. they dont really hve any quality players. this sounds a great idea.
 
could yo please try and get a martin o'neil tactic for me. im playing as hearts, a mid table team in scotland. they dont really hve any quality players. this sounds a great idea.

Any particular formation dave? 4-4-2?
 
ta mate thats a nice thread and will be useful were you find them
 
Hey Zebedee

Sounds like your gonna have your work cut out, so ill get my request in quickly lol.

I am currently portsmouth and into the 3rd season, they are a mid table team at the moment and I have been using the oOGoonerOo tactics. These are good but I am still conceding way to many goals.
So I was wondering if you would be able to do me a tactic using the Bands of Two system. The formation I am currently using is 4-2-3-1 in the oOGoonerOo tactics. If you think I should change the formation a bit to suit the Bands of Two system then let me know, I have a pretty felxible team
 
i would'nt mind a 4-4-2 band of two, so i can see how the tactical insturctions work BUT you've help me quiet a bit since this is my first football manager for PC (since ive only played 360 versions). so take your time
 
This is going to be useful when it's out. Very interested in the Band of two and Role Theory tactics. I'm using(rather trying out) a host of tactics and so far Franky's MUFC '94 tactic v2.1 is the most impressive.

I also found(not made, can't remember who deserves the credit for this) a Queiroz 4-2-3-1 Asymmetric system(as attached below). It's useful sometimes, but maybe requires more tweaking to make it awesome. I haven't used it extensively as it seems to work better with a gelled team then a new one. Potentially a very good tactic.
 
I think that a 4-4-2 for Role Theory and a 4-4-2 for Bands of Two would be very nice if you could make it :P
 
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Enough requests for the moment guys. Will start to work on them after I've had a couple of days testing the match engine out in 9.3, and they'll be done in the order posted :)
 
could i have the mourinho system plz ?? and im playin a 4-3-1-2 atm so...:D
cheers...

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and also btw im using chelsea.
 
Here's the Role Theory 4-4-2 set (5 variants). Passing is for league 2 standard, adjust accordingly. Pressing may need putting higher a couple of clicks if your team can do it. Defensive Line is tied to mentality of the MCa, that may be too high - if it is, bring it down to the mentality of the MCd, or somewhere inbetween.

(Sorry, bit rushed for time at the moment so just doing the very basics - will do the 4-4-2s first as they're easier. 4-5-1 I need to have to play to figure out the roles.).
 
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man, i truly do admire you zebedee for what you do for people on this site
 
man, i truly do admire you zebedee for what you do for people on this site

Nah, it's not much. Any fule can do it. I don't mind playing with ideas though because I'm looking to do a Sacchi one. Once I've cracked it, I'll run it with a 9.1 database Arsenal, as they're the only team who have any chance of playing it :D Got sidetracked today though because I was messing about with a Brian Clough type system. Much fun.
 
Here's the Role Theory 4-4-2 set (5 variants). Passing is for league 2 standard, adjust accordingly. Pressing may need putting higher a couple of clicks if your team can do it. Defensive Line is tied to mentality of the MCa, that may be too high - if it is, bring it down to the mentality of the MCd, or somewhere inbetween.

(Sorry, bit rushed for time at the moment so just doing the very basics - will do the 4-4-2s first as they're easier. 4-5-1 I need to have to play to figure out the roles.).

Amazing dude. keep up the good work ! :P
 
Don't wanna put pressure on you Zebedee but was just wondering how far you are with the Bands of two 4-4-2 :P?
 
Lol yeah, I need to get a move on. Was playing with 4-5-1 (horrid tactic!) and doing my Bognor game. Will put them together now mate.

Edit: Passing is for league 2 standard (just made them in my Bognor game using the Bury passing as the base) so adjust accordingly. Pressing may need increasing a couple of clicks. And as ever, tweak away to make them suit your team :)
 
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