Terrific to Poor: Some Advice please.

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Ive been away from FM11 for a while now, and just returned. I started a season off with QPR in the championship. I ripped right through pre-season. Only fault was the opening game agains't Wolves which i drew 2-2, which i actually still think is a good result. Then i won the rest of my fixtures, by two or more goals. One i believe was a 3-1 win. A couple of 3-0's. Two 5-0 wins and one 7-1 win. I was very pleased with that pre season, and i went into my opening Championship fixture agains't Bristol City with alot of confidence. My strikers had been blasting goals in left right and centre pre season. My best player, actually happened to be Wayne Routlledge, who is on loan from Newcastle. He was doing so well in pre-season, so i gave him a start on the left side in the opener, and he played pretty well. The most dissapointing this was, that we had the chance to win. We went down 1-0 midway through the first half, and my defensive midfielder got injured. I replaced him with my newly signed youngster.. also i changed my instructions:managers shout to Work the ball into the box, and push higher up. This worked to perfection as we equalised just before half time. But the second half went downhill. I didn't make any subs because nearly all of my players had high morale and were still in good condition. I had a general idea on who was going to tire around the 60 minute mark. at around the 60 minute mark, one of my players was tiring, as i expected. So i took my right fullback off and replaced him with another right fullback.. cant remember who, but he's actually better than the guy i had on in the first place. That guy i already had on, i wanted to give some game time. Then it all went down hill. The goal they scored to take the lead in the 71st minute was on that side that i made the subtitution.. I don't understand how all game i can stop them from taking me down from that side with a weaker defender than i had put on just a few minutes before. Im not saying its the games fault, but i just wanted to ask some of you FM pro's what i should do in those kinds of situations.. if a player is tiring and needs to be replaced. Like, do i have to change tactics along with the sub?.. etc.. Your help would be greatly appreciated guys. Thankyou.
 
couple of questions

was you away from home ?
Right back that came on was a youngster ?

i think it could be you was pressing to hard after the first sub a bit too early the best time would of been 75th-90th mins and how was the defence when you changed both subs was they pushing up or lying deeper ?
 
couple of questions

was you away from home ?
Right back that came on was a youngster ?

i think it could be you was pressing to hard after the first sub a bit too early the best time would of been 75th-90th mins and how was the defence when you changed both subs was they pushing up or lying deeper ?

It was at home.
The right back that came on was a youngster, but his stats are much better than the other right back that i had on originally, who was also a youngster, but he was obviously performing really well until the newer guy came on..

I think your right. I shouldv'e layed off with the pressure when making the substitutions. When we were 1-0 up and fairly comfortable, my defensive setup had me in between deep and push up.. normal basically. But then i noticed that the possession started to turn into their favour, their manager must have done something to push them forward and retain possession. So i pushed my defense a little deeper, and made the substitution. The original right back was tiring, his condition was 65% or something.. so i brought on my other right back who had much better stats and his condition was roughly 95% or something. He comes on and instantly, the attack after his arrival they scored, by their attacking skipping past him, and getting a cross in. followed by a simple tap in header.

Was frustrating, but i think your point proved what i shouldv'e done. And this was to wait a little longer before making the sub, and perhaps not dropping a heck of a lot deeper. Perhaps just a slight adjustment.

thanks for the help :)
 
I think that Jonathan Gray has a point.

The continued pressing may not have shown physically with the player's conditioning, but it was too much for too long and led to lapses in judgement from the defensive line. Lapses in concentration, especially the lower down the leagues you go in terms of managing clubs, they will decrease and the standards will be lower. You will not have the same defenders with his Anticipation, Concentration, Decisions, Determination, Work Rate (etc. etc.)

So listening to your Assistant Manager, cooling off the midfield pressure and starting to sit back with an intention to defend the lead would have been more logical than attacking all game. The same thing happens in real-life all the time and even if you do sit back, soak up all the pressure and try to defend the lead, the equaliser and game-winning goal may come. Just try to prepare for what happens in the final 5-10 minutes way before you come to it. When the clock ticks past the hour mark, it is crucial to:


  • Substitute players that have conditioning and physical fatigue of at least 74%.
  • Look at the feedback that your Assistant Manager has given to you during the match.
  • Check the Opposition Instructions to see if you can man-mark, tackle and close down the substitutes that have come on for the opposition players.
  • Tweak the tactics and make sure that you relieve the pressure and start to retain possession, keep and it and not lose it.
 
I think that Jonathan Gray has a point.

The continued pressing may not have shown physically with the player's conditioning, but it was too much for too long and led to lapses in judgement from the defensive line. Lapses in concentration, especially the lower down the leagues you go in terms of managing clubs, they will decrease and the standards will be lower. You will not have the same defenders with his Anticipation, Concentration, Decisions, Determination, Work Rate (etc. etc.)

So listening to your Assistant Manager, cooling off the midfield pressure and starting to sit back with an intention to defend the lead would have been more logical than attacking all game. The same thing happens in real-life all the time and even if you do sit back, soak up all the pressure and try to defend the lead, the equaliser and game-winning goal may come. Just try to prepare for what happens in the final 5-10 minutes way before you come to it. When the clock ticks past the hour mark, it is crucial to:

  • Substitute players that have conditioning and physical fatigue of at least 74%.
  • Look at the feedback that your Assistant Manager has given to you during the match.
  • Check the Opposition Instructions to see if you can man-mark, tackle and close down the substitutes that have come on for the opposition players.
  • Tweak the tactics and make sure that you relieve the pressure and start to retain possession, keep and it and not lose it.

You are a Legend!
Thank You so much for that..
The perfect description.
Cheers!
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