Using 3 CB's?

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Hi,I am using 3 CB's in my tactic.My question is whether there is a way for the CB's to play a bit wider and stop the crosses from getting into the box?

My formation is

-GK(GK defend)-
-CB(Limited defender)-CB(Central defender)-CB(limited defender)-
-Cm(ball winning midfielder)-CmA(advanced playmaker)-
-AML(winger)-AMC(treqartista)-AMR(inside forward)-
-TS(target man)-FS(poacher)-

The problem is that i blew my transfer budget on getting a GK and a winger,And my full team has lots of decent CB's and 2 FB's who have **** stats.As i am using 1 winger and 1 inside forward i have to play a wider pitch which could also be exploited by the opposition wingers also.And i could also remove the poacher but he is my best player and also very consistent.
 
have your CBs close down more. Regardless you will always have a high amount of crosses against you.

I used to play with 3 CBs, and the other teams crossed a LOT, and it got nerve racking, but their success was very limited. If you have good CBs who can head the ball away you'll be fine. Most of the goals I conceded were from the ball falling on the ground waiting for someone to pounce on it.
 
im sorry but i do have 2 say i wudnt play that i go for 4-1-4-1 if i was u if u want a Balanced Side but thats just me :)
 
I would say using 3 defenders won't work and using 5 defenders won't work either. Always use 4 defenders ( 2 wing back and 2 center back ).
 
Well, if they try to stop crosses, middle will be emptier, if you want them to do the both, it will tire then, as they have to be fast and fit runners. And your tactic is far too offensive. Your wingers must be a player that can play as a DL or DR and a ML or MR. Like Marcelo, Drenthe, Dani Alves or Darijo Srna. And it should be like 3-4-1-2 not 3-2-3-2. It can't be successful, if you don't cheat...
 
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If you use a 3 man defence it's best to use wingbacks, you can't really play without defensive wide players. My advice would be to buy or loan some wingbacks, or to at least use your wide players more defensively
 
I think the main problem is how exposed you are on the wings. The wingers in the formation described are very advanced and there is too much space to attack down the flanks. Central players are then dragged wide and you become more exposed in the middle. I am playing a 3-4-1-2 at the moment with some success (7 pts clear at the top half way through 1st season with man city), and find that having wide midfielders as opposed to wingers is key. They play a deeper role, setting up attacks from deep and supporting play more that attacking the flanks, although with sustained possession that can advance and provide some width. This allows them to be in position to close down the flanks when the opposition has possession better than more advanced wingers are.

This system works pretty well for me against 4-4-2 but can run into trouble against teams playing one striker and 2 advanced wingers. In this case you get hit on the break too easily. In these circumstances I set the wide midfielders to man mark the wingers with tight marking on to deny them space. In this case it helps to have ball playing defenders in the DLC and DRC position as, with the wide midfielders occupied they step into midfield more and set up attacks from deep.

My set-up is

GK (Sweeper Keeper/defend)
CD (BPD/Stopper) - CB (CD/Cover) - CB (BPD/Stopper)
MR (WM/Auto) - MC (BWM/Defend) - MC (BtB Mid/Support) - ML (WM/Auto)
AMC (Trequartista/Attack)
SC (DLF/Support) - SC (Poacher/Attack)

Passing is set to Shorter and Philosophy is Rigid. I have found that it keeps possession pretty well but most of the threat comes from the front 3. There aren't a large number of goals or assists from the midfield, so a firing front 3 is important. I may play with the BtB midfield settings to see if I can encourage more runs into the box rather than moving wide to support the flanks, although with a trequartista and 2 central strikers it may be a bit crowded in the middle.
 
@Darthsouth.

Yea that is correct.I usually sub most of my midfield out before the end of the match.But..My wingers can't play as defensive wingers,their defensive attributes suck too much.I am playing in league one and i have to choose with the best players available to me..



@dennis

I guess I could try using wingbacks and 3 CB's but that would leave my best players out of the team..thats the reason why i am using 2 att mids..

@supermarv..

Yep,Thats correct.Even against other league one sides,I am struggling to control the oppositions wingers even though they have very low attributes.So far in the last 3 matches conceded 2 goals because of crosses.But thats okay as long as i am winning matches and moving towards securing promotion from league one.I will change formation once in championship.The current formation is working very well for me right now in league one.Only problem is i dont stand a chance against pl/championship teams in cup matches.but thats ok because the board "understand" that i was knocked out by a bigger team.

I can't play wide midfielders because my wingers dont have uber attributes.i will manage with this formation till i get promoted to chship.i have noticed that playing wide width makes the CB's play a little bit wider?I am not sure though lol..


BTW should i play a wide width or narrow width while playing with inside forwards?How can i use my inside forwards more effectively and make them score goals?Any tips regarding that will be very very helpful.Thanks.
 
Playing with that tactic is hard, but if you manage to adapt it to your team, rewards are great. If you really want to use this, you have to buy the right players; and I don't think you can buy them at League 1. Hope you can prove me wrong.
 
yea i altered the tactic a bit to
3(CB)
1(DM)
2(mids)
2(inside forwards)
2(strikers)
so current formation is 3-5-2 minus the AMc.
Defensively the tactic is now more effective.
 
If it helps, im curently using a 3232 (wing backs). It's quite sucsesful. I'm using it at Feyenoord and came 3, in my first season (Media prediction 5.). As alredy said it's wurnebal on the wings when both wingers and full backs get forward. To cope with this, my side Mc's close down the full backs. The central one is the holding MC. About the CD's, I have the central one set to ball playing cover, the side ones to default central defenders.
 
btw darth,do you know how i can make my inside forwards to score more goals?my inside forwards have finishing of 14 and composure is decent too.They got the pace and i have set wideplay to cuts inside.should i play a wide width to make them get into the box more and score more goals?

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@prigrajf

hm.How do you make your MC's close down on the FB's?Coz i set my MC to mark other MC's.if u force ur mc to close down of FBs wont that give too much space for opposition creative midfielders ?
 
uiop123 said:
btw darth,do you know how i can make my inside forwards to score more goals?my inside forwards have finishing of 14 and composure is decent too.They got the pace and i have set wideplay to cuts inside.should i play a wide width to make them get into the box more and score more goals?
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Sorry but I don't know any kind of magic to make them score every match. You must wail till they adapt to the new tactic, and hope for the best as long as those players are suitable for there. Remember their technique must be high as well...
 
Well you could use opposition instruction close down always on the full backs or have them man and tight mark + press more in the team instruction. They do give space away, thats why there's the holding MC, to pick them up. It's not perfect, because I don't tinker with the sliders, but it's decent.

In your case the MC's should mark the other Mc's because you would give to much space for the creative players in the midle.
 
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I would rather not play with 3 Cbs cos if the opposition decide to play a 4-3-3,your in trouble
 
I use the same formation but with slightly different roles.

It does work very well, trust me. My team has gotten used to it now that I can beat most top teams without worry. When I play Barca/Madrid I get high score lines like 5-4, 5-2, etc but I still win in the end.

You need at least one quality CB and a quality CDM (Ball winning midfielder) for this formation to work. Speed also helps. Someone like Fabrice Muamba from Bolton would be ideal if you're short on cash.

There's no real way to stop them crossing (Unless you make your pitch Narrow, which would probably do more harm than good tbh), which is why you need quick defenders and/or defenders that are good in the air. Put your best header of the ball in the centre and your quick ones on the right and left.
 
You could probably get inspiration from JP Woody's V3. It uses 3 CBs to great effect. Modify from there. No wingers no wingbacks. :D
 
@remodez.

Fabrice muamba is real quality player.Strength,stamina,aggression,teamwork,workrate and bravery are all at 16++.Very very good player.I got him on loan.thanks for the tip.And also,I man mark the opp wingers with my att mids.and they do a decent job.

@gabe genesis

Okay,thanks.I will download it and will take some tips from that formation too.. :D
 
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