Utilising pressing

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So, I've been reading about pressing and decided to make a pressing tactic. You are welcome to try it, test it, and point me in the right direction, if you have sufficient knowledge. This is work in progress.

This tactic was created after I received a request to create a tactic for very good players.

From what I've been reading, and from what I could learn, I found out there are many types of pressing. I don't fully understand how to implement all these styles into fm, and would require assistance. Basically, from what I can tell, pressing is about pushing up. You need to win the ball as quickly as possible, preferably in opposition half. And after that, attack quickly. Since we have two push higher up instructions, the normal one and much one, I guess the much one is much more risky, and probably what klopps dortmund plays. It is combined with going route one and much higher tempo, to attack as soon as the ball is won. My guess is, klopp plays overload mentality to encourage both attacking and counter attacking play. I tried to get some info on klopps dortmund, and i found out he did win a lot of matches, but also lost some and in the process made his players very tired before the season was over.
I also read that pressing is a collective effort, probably meaning klopp played very fluid team shape. Such high fluidity would probably allow a flat formation, or better put, it wouldn't require a more layered formation, since player mentalities will be closely knit.


This is where I decided to make my own tactic. My idea was about the same as klopps, just a bit more defensively aware. I made a fluid, control, high tempo, push higher up, direct passing tactic, built on the same principles, just not that extreme as klopps. My thought process was keeping a clean sheet if possible. Since it is fluid, it would require a slightly more layered formation, so I opted for 4411. I haven't bothered with player roles and duties, as I also read somewhere, more fluidity means using less specialised roles, so I just kept everything as creator suggests.

These are the instructions I used:

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Anyway, any input from you guys would be welcome, and any suggesstions you might have, I am more then willing to hear.

Cheers!
 
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Igneos79 said:
So, I've been reading about pressing and decided to make a pressing tactic. You are welcome to try it, test it, and point me in the right direction, if you have sufficient knowledge. This is work in progress.

This tactic was created after I received a request to create a tactic for very good players.

From what I've been reading, and from what I could learn, I found out there are many types of pressing. I don't fully understand how to implement all these styles into fm, and would require assistance. Basically, from what I can tell, pressing is about pushing up. You need to win the ball as quickly as possible, preferably in opposition half. And after that, attack quickly. Since we have two push higher up instructions, the normal one and much one, I guess the much one is much more risky, and probably what klopps dortmund plays. It is combined with going route one and much higher tempo, to attack as soon as the ball is won. My guess is, klopp plays overload mentality to encourage both attacking and counter attacking play. I tried to get some info on klopps dortmund, and i found out he did win a lot of matches, but also lost some and in the process made his players very tired before the season was over.
I also read that pressing is a collective effort, probably meaning klopp played very fluid team shape. Such high fluidity would probably allow a flat formation, or better put, it wouldn't require a more layered formation, since player mentalities will be closely knit.


This is where I decided to make my own tactic. My idea was about the same as klopps, just a bit more defensively aware. I made a fluid, control, high tempo, push higher up, direct passing tactic, built on the same principles, just not that extreme as klopps. My thought process was keeping a clean sheet if possible. Since it is fluid, it would require a slightly more layered formation, so I opted for 4411. I haven't bothered with player roles and duties, as I also read somewhere, more fluidity means using less specialised roles, so I just kept everything as creator suggests.

It also occured to me that I should create a total opposite of this pressing tactic, a structured, counter one, with a layered formation, so I did that too, and called the pressing one "modern", and llm one "shabby". So much for my creativity :D

Anyway, any input from you guys would be welcome, and any suggesstions you might have, I am more then willing to hear.

Cheers!
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Ill try it mate i have my own pressing tactic and would like to bounce ideas of you
 
will give it a go with everton I think, will let you know how it goes
 
rizzla97 said:
will give it a go with everton I think, will let you know how it goes
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you can test it with any club that has players for these positions, so I guess everton would be great...

dilakh2 said:
Sorry for the late reply, I'll try tonight and see how it goes I'll tell you if it needs any improvements.
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sure thing lad....knock yourself out...
 
Personally I would use the Play More Direct team instruction, since as far as I'm aware, Go Route One is for Stoke-esque hoofs up to strong target men. A direct style can be incisive, vertical, ground passes that cut through lines of pressure - high risk, high reward in that sense.

In terms of defending, I would opt for Play Narrower rather than wider. If your players are all closely connected and you lose possession, there is naturally a localised numerical advantage around the ball which you can exploit through high pressing to regain possession in the transition. On the other hand, if you're instructing your team to play wider, they will look to disperse when you have the ball - think 4 in midfield, wingers on the touchline, leaving 2 CMs to cover the 60+ metres in between.

There are some fantastic pictures of Roger Schmidt's Leverkusen (read up about this guy as much as possible if you're into pressing) where you can see the whole team are squashed into a tiny fraction of the pitch. This highlights the point about compactness and playing narrow. In many ways, the way you play in attack directly influences how you play in defence - it's overly simplistic to discretely separate the two.
 
Then who would you send that direct ball to, if you were playing narrower? I think narrower would suit a shorter passing style, as shorter passing (in previous fms) narrowed down the width. There wont only be your players in small fraction of the pitch, opponents will be there aswell. It will will be easier to lose the ball just as likely as it is to win it. And attacking is usually done on the flanks, and you give support to your wingers by playing wider. It will stretch the opposition, allow for directness, and make goalscoring easier. I have tried playing narrower, but it never brought me good results.
 
Igneos79 said:
Then who would you send that direct ball to, if you were playing narrower? I think narrower would suit a shorter passing style, as shorter passing (in previous fms) narrowed down the width. There wont only be your players in small fraction of the pitch, opponents will be there aswell. It will will be easier to lose the ball just as likely as it is to win it. And attacking is usually done on the flanks, and you give support to your wingers by playing wider. It will stretch the opposition, allow for directness, and make goalscoring easier. I have tried playing narrower, but it never brought me good results.
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that was what i was thinking, i tried the tactic for about a month or so. i won most of the game but the problem was that that the lone striker was often not supported. i tried narrower but i drew 2 games, wider seems more effective for me. my problem with the tactic was that it was too defensive i didnt concede as much as i used too but i like a gung ho approach. one thing i have to say is against the bigger teams this is a perfect tactic. i played against psg and despite them having most of the ball the direct balls straight to the striker are perfect for counter attacks.
 
dilakh2 said:
that was what i was thinking, i tried the tactic for about a month or so. i won most of the game but the problem was that that the lone striker was often not supported. i tried narrower but i drew 2 games, wider seems more effective for me. my problem with the tactic was that it was too defensive i didnt concede as much as i used too but i like a gung ho approach. one thing i have to say is against the bigger teams this is a perfect tactic. i played against psg and despite them having most of the ball the direct balls straight to the striker are perfect for counter attacks.
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Well thank you for your reply and testing efforts. The issue was in duties and roles and pumping ball into box and tight marking. After a lot more tinkering and consulting with other guides, I have improved the tactic. I beleive it should be close to perfect now, with only set peices and perhaps some PI's to be added, but it's doing wonders for me with every single team I test it with, be it in LLM or top clubs. If you are willing, please download it here and test again.
 
Igneos79 said:
Well thank you for your reply and testing efforts. The issue was in duties and roles and pumping ball into box and tight marking. After a lot more tinkering and consulting with other guides, I have improved the tactic. I beleive it should be close to perfect now, with only set peices and perhaps some PI's to be added, but it's doing wonders for me with every single team I test it with, be it in LLM or top clubs. If you are willing, please download it here and test again.
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Sure I'll try it again mate. Np.
 
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