17.2 and 17.2.1 match engine difference?
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Your statement did insinuate that the ME was probably to blame.
probably means it's not confirm right? right??
so instead of answering like wkdsoul you just shoot
I gave you my impression of what you said, I don't explicitly say that you are blaming the ME. So stop shooting your mouth off, and let's try find a reasonable solution to why your tactics are failing, ok?
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Basically, yes. Your losses have nothing to do with an update. Rather look at what's going wrong in the matches themselves.
i made this post to ask is there any difference of 17.2 and 17.2.1 match engine as i'm experiencing straight loses right after i patch my game and some legends here cannot wait to give their useless hostile comments to show that they are more superior
You've yet to provide any sort of tactical evidence that we can use to help you. All of us on here are happy to help, but you have to give us something to start with. Getting involved in a fairly pointless argument isn't going to help your cause.
WJ is one of the better tactical geniuses on the site. If you are able to provide a screenshot of what you are doing, he's the person best placed to help you.
Lots of freak goals for and against. I've scored seven goals in eight games, five of them are own goals. several flukes and many CCCs missed. That's not just a tactical thing. I'm retooling my tactics anyway, but I love it when updates dry-hump a decent save.
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The update didn't cause any of this though. It was literally one fix that solved freezing issues and that's it.
My familiarities reset back to special needs turnips in summer level. I don't know what caused that, but that doesn't explain going from sane results to own goals and flukes galore just since the update. Four more games played, two high scoring draws with another three OGs among the net bulges and two crosses from FBs going in. For an update that didn't do anything, I'm puzzled by the suddenly arbitrary nonsense.
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As I said, rather find the problem than blaming the game. "Oh the update screwed me". Firstly, no it didn't. Secondly, even if there were changes, which there weren't... then what? You still need to figure out what's wrong and fix it, regardless. I'm just telling you to skip step one and move on to looking for the issues.
you signed alot of players/staff in the summer right?
your using a silly high pressing system with a high line thats probably at the high end of creativity right?
what you are experiencing is a common problem for people who download a popular tactic that shows good results for 1 season and dont understand how it works to tweak it for the second season where the AI sets up differently for you
The guys have asked to see your system so they can help you and you are still complaining
There were many updates to FM17 and especially 17.1.2 affected my tactics. No ME change was mentioned in the changelist, but the performance of my Joker tactic for example dropped so distinctly, that it cannot be ignored. Not just for me, but for all users. So the options:
a, no ME change was done and all users of the tactic are managing their teams badly
b, there was an ME change and for me it is unclear why they have denied it
a, no ME change was done and all users of the tactic are managing their teams badly
b, there was an ME change and for me it is unclear why they have denied it
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You claimed the same last time, even though there also were no changes. The "multiple users" turned out to be just 2 users and they had very clear explanations as it just happened to coincide with the season halfway point when teams will change their approach to your team doing well. Other users had no issues with your tactic. So it's again the same as last time - other factors cause a drop in form. There's no conspiracy.
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Believe whatever you want, but it is also a fact that nothing except that 1 thing changed in this update. Nothing affected the ME or results at all.
Edit: Also, there were people reporting no changes in their good results with your same tactic. The update must not have affected them for some reason.
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1 thing was mentioned in the changelog, but the results have changed seriously.