A sad day for football fans in this place known to those unfortunate enough to live here as "Argentina". Today, a motion was approved in an extraordinary meeting of club representatives by which a 40-team tournament will be formed. Details are not well known as of yet, but it has transpired that the torunament will be divided in a group stage and some crazy **** of the like. This has to be in my top 10 of saddest days in my life. If our tournament wasn't **** enough as it was, it will be now. I swear I will not watch a single game until Julio Grondona dies or is replaced by someone at least remotely competent. Words can't describe how I feel, honestly.
25th of July, 2011. The day football died in Argentina.
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Okay, here it goes. This is, according to newspaper Olé, official and not leaked data.
From the 2012/13 season onwards, the first 2 divisions will be merged, and the resulting 38 teams (As, apparently, 2 teams will still be relegated from the second tier this year) will be split into 2 groups. The top 5 in each group will qualify to a "championship phase" along with the 9 clubs with the most points in a general table. The chapionship group defines the champion and those qualified for the Copa Libertadores. The remaining 19 teams will be put together to fight it out for relegation. The bottom four will be relegated.
Not only is this disgusting, but I wouldn't be so ****** if it had happened some time ago, when TV rights were owned by a private company and you could probably understand it was a business decision. But TV rights for the top tier have been bought by the State, and this is evidently a way of acquiring the rights of the second tier as well, as they were owned by rival news group "Clarín" (As is newspaper Olé).
In my life, I can safely say that this is the best government I've lived under. But what they've done with football is disgusting. When TV rights were bought by the state I was as happy as one can be. You could watch every match for free and small-ish clubs were gettng better TV deals. But it's been turned into a tool for political propaganda since. It's running on a ~300m deficit per year (That's our money, don't forget that) as no publicity is allowed except for state propaganda, which is very ******* annoying. Every ~30 seconds you have to put up with some stupid **** about houses being built in some city somewhere. I bet my left nut Goebbels wasn't such a pain in the *** back in the 30's/40's. And now, according to the Vice-President of Velez, the best-run club in the country in the past few years, the proposal did not come from the AFA but from the government, interested in both securing TV rights for the second tier and getting River back to the top flight, as we near the elections...
From the 2012/13 season onwards, the first 2 divisions will be merged, and the resulting 38 teams (As, apparently, 2 teams will still be relegated from the second tier this year) will be split into 2 groups. The top 5 in each group will qualify to a "championship phase" along with the 9 clubs with the most points in a general table. The chapionship group defines the champion and those qualified for the Copa Libertadores. The remaining 19 teams will be put together to fight it out for relegation. The bottom four will be relegated.
Not only is this disgusting, but I wouldn't be so ****** if it had happened some time ago, when TV rights were owned by a private company and you could probably understand it was a business decision. But TV rights for the top tier have been bought by the State, and this is evidently a way of acquiring the rights of the second tier as well, as they were owned by rival news group "Clarín" (As is newspaper Olé).
In my life, I can safely say that this is the best government I've lived under. But what they've done with football is disgusting. When TV rights were bought by the state I was as happy as one can be. You could watch every match for free and small-ish clubs were gettng better TV deals. But it's been turned into a tool for political propaganda since. It's running on a ~300m deficit per year (That's our money, don't forget that) as no publicity is allowed except for state propaganda, which is very ******* annoying. Every ~30 seconds you have to put up with some stupid **** about houses being built in some city somewhere. I bet my left nut Goebbels wasn't such a pain in the *** back in the 30's/40's. And now, according to the Vice-President of Velez, the best-run club in the country in the past few years, the proposal did not come from the AFA but from the government, interested in both securing TV rights for the second tier and getting River back to the top flight, as we near the elections...
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that is disgusting.
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<br><br>In Brazil, I'm a big supporter of Lula and Dilma, but the corruption there's gonna be for WC '14 and Rio '16 is going to be horrible.<br><br>First the Maracanã, that has had more than 10 really expensive "rebuilds" over the last 15 years. Then, it wasn't ready for the Pan '07=spend more money. After milions spent in 2007, it should be good to go.. more milions for "structural problems". Still, not ready for the WC, and all again. Worst of all, they're giving Corinthians a stadium. It's not like West Ham getting their stadium, as the arena construction was necessary, but we're talking about a team that tries to sing Tevez and Seedorf(pretty funny seeing them hoping it's true) with a lot of god-knows-where-from money, but can't make a ******* stadium. Yeah, a 100 years old team that can't build one of these **** stadiums we have in SA, so the former president chooses the make a "partnership"(where the people pay the stadium and the team keeps it) with Corinthians. Ah yeah, guess what team he supports?<br><br><br>Back to Argentina, I can't see why they do so many things there look hard. First, the stupid 3-year relegation. Then, after a big team is relegated, they **** up everything so they... so they can... I can't see what they want!<br><br>Juve was relegated for a reason that is worst than having a couple of bad seasons. And they're back. And so did Palmeiras, Corinthians, Fluminense, Grêmio, Vasco, Botafogo, Leeds... oh, no, wait.
Almost literal quote from an AFA spokesperson:
"The government pays 700m to see the best. We could promote River by law but that would be against the rules of fair play and the history of our federation (ORLY), so we'd rather change the league system to ensure the big clubs are always in the top flight".
Hilarious ****.
"The government pays 700m to see the best. We could promote River by law but that would be against the rules of fair play and the history of our federation (ORLY), so we'd rather change the league system to ensure the big clubs are always in the top flight".
Hilarious ****.
I'm so depressed about this. The season after next is going to be ****. I can't believe we're actually going to have to watch teams from the B week in and week out. Just for the sake of River. What a ******* joke. They're going to get promoted next season for sure anyway, I really can't see them not finishing in the top 2 and getting the automatic promotion (or top 4). It's pointless.
I really like the state owns the Argentine football TV rights (and not having in-game ads is great, I don't care if they play government propaganda during half-time) but this is an outrage. I can't believe people are actually letting this happen. Maybe the players will go on strike? The drop in quality is going to destroy Argentine football.
Does anyone know if there's a possibility this won't happen? Anything that can stop it in the process? Maybe a private company buying the TV rights?
I really like the state owns the Argentine football TV rights (and not having in-game ads is great, I don't care if they play government propaganda during half-time) but this is an outrage. I can't believe people are actually letting this happen. Maybe the players will go on strike? The drop in quality is going to destroy Argentine football.
Does anyone know if there's a possibility this won't happen? Anything that can stop it in the process? Maybe a private company buying the TV rights?
There are a few possibilities. People are heavily against this, because not only do we consume football, but since the state pays for TV rights we also produce it. With the elections just round the corner I can see either the government backing off and aborting this nonsense, or I can see them losing the elections to the far-right (Which would not be good) and football going back to a private company.
We just survived the end of the world, apparently
so this league might be the craziest one, like 40 teams , split in two and top 5 have a playoff game. ****!!!!
is different from what ive seen. unlike the SPL. all 12 teams play each other, once they are done the top 6 play each other, while the bottom 6 do the same.
i might be wrong cuz i find it hard to understand it!
so this league might be the craziest one, like 40 teams , split in two and top 5 have a playoff game. ****!!!!
is different from what ive seen. unlike the SPL. all 12 teams play each other, once they are done the top 6 play each other, while the bottom 6 do the same.
i might be wrong cuz i find it hard to understand it!
No no, the good thing is this project has been cancelled. Had it happened I would have chopped my **** off with a letter opener.
just like that ***** in LA that chopped the man's Dix and throw in the trash. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any thoughts on Sabella Athe?
Right man? Wrong man? Safe man? Mediocre man?
Risky appointment, but the lack of candidates out there was pretty astounding. Bielsa would be the ideal man but after he quit in 04 that never looks like happening, I think last year post WC he said he wanted the job but now he's at Bilbao and it looks impossible that he will ever return as NT manager.
I think Sabella will do better than Batista but will still have the same AFA system as Batista with the same pressures and restrictions.
Any thoughts/expectations for him?
WC2014 is arguably going to be the defining moment, and the hardest moment, for any Argentina coach to take his team to the WC in Brazil and try to spoil their party. I don't envy Sabella for being given that task...
Right man? Wrong man? Safe man? Mediocre man?
Risky appointment, but the lack of candidates out there was pretty astounding. Bielsa would be the ideal man but after he quit in 04 that never looks like happening, I think last year post WC he said he wanted the job but now he's at Bilbao and it looks impossible that he will ever return as NT manager.
I think Sabella will do better than Batista but will still have the same AFA system as Batista with the same pressures and restrictions.
Any thoughts/expectations for him?
WC2014 is arguably going to be the defining moment, and the hardest moment, for any Argentina coach to take his team to the WC in Brazil and try to spoil their party. I don't envy Sabella for being given that task...