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Hello all,
been struggling for over a year to create a 4-2-3-1 wide formation playing as close the AI does. After long time and some hard effort I think I 've come to a good one which I would like to share with you.
Here is the Formation:
View attachment 111255
Let me explain some of the elements in this tactic. What I wanted was:
The tactic's heart is the AP. Lorenzo Pellegrini a 'Serie B class' midfielder is having the time of his life and has skyrocketed his personal statistics and value as well (was brought as a free transfer). This player is the brain of the team so all mental attributes should be to a decent level.
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The second most important creative player is the AM(C). He will provide chances and also complement the lone Striker in the center of the attack, occasionally finding the net as well. Zezinho another free signing from Brazil also having a good season helping the team with 3 goals and 4 assists. This one should have creative (Passing, Decisions, Vision) and decent attacking attributes (Off the ball, Finishing, Long Shots).
View attachment 111253
About the two Wingers. I want them to be able to penetrate opposition defence and either create or score. Ideally I would like them to have good Pace, Acceleration, Agility, Stamina, Off the Ball, Dribbling, Decisions, Crossing, Passing and the usual Teamwork, Workrate, Determination.
But since I am a low profile club and can't attract good players I focused on Pace, Acceleration, Agility, Dribbling.
The AMLs:
View attachment 111252View attachment 111251
and the AMRs:
View attachment 111250View attachment 111249
And the Striker. I have experimented with many roles (DF, DLF, T, AF) and found out that the Complete Forward is the most efficient one - also the most expensive in attributes but don't let that hold you back. I again focused on a player able to run fast toward the opposition area and penetrate their line if needed, I also looked for decent attacking, finishing and mental stats.
Soumare was bought from STVV for 185k (!) and he is having a great season so far - also considered as the key player of my team in the Club page. Bianco is with us for the 2nd season (also loaned him when in League 2) and proves a very good back up with decent potential. To sum it up the attributes I look for are Pace, Acceleration, Agility, Dribbling, Off the Ball, Finishing, Composure, Decisions, Determination.
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The DLP. This is the only position being sacrificed meaning that he rarely gets a high rating but also almost never underperforms. His primary task is to sit very deep and provide the extra strength in the defensive line (forming a 5-man back line at some point) while claiming opposition clearings and recycling possession. He will also provide some support on the left fullback when attacking but this player is not really participating in the attacking phase of the game. As you can see both are BWM rather than DLP but that was done intentionally as my defenders are mediocre and preferred the extra protection to creativity.
View attachment 111244View attachment 111243
Our defenders aren't something special, I will prefer again speed for the fullbacks at the flank and at least one Central defender being physically strong and good in claiming headers. I also look for decent mental attributes to avoid errors, wild clearings and promote my 'Play out of Defence' instruction.
View attachment 111240View attachment 111241View attachment 111242View attachment 111239
This tactic brought great success in my second season in French League 2 with Footbal Club de Chably-Thelle promoting us to League1 and earning me the overachiever achievement.(H)
View attachment 111238
The above players' screenshots come from our League1 adventure (current season). Take a look at some statistics highlights.
Standings:
View attachment 111237
Average Possession:
View attachment 111236
Pass Completion:
View attachment 111233
Shots on Target:
View attachment 111232
Dribbles per game:
View attachment 111228
Tacklings Won:
View attachment 111227
Needless to say I started the season with the goal to fight bravely against relegation and was tipped 2000:1 by the bookmakers to win the title.
Managing the team inside the game: I was expecting the AI to exploit the gap behind my AP and so it happened to some extent until I put the 'Hold Position' instruction on this role.
If we are back at the score, I won't rush in tactical alterations first wanting to see how the team responds to getting behind.
If I see we need to push more first move is to add the 'Look for Overlap' instruction.
If we need more pressure I will then add the 'Get Further Forward' instruction to both Fullbacks.
If nothing good occurs (seldom) I will then put both fullbacks to Attacking and change the Team Mentality to Control.
If we win with one goal I won't be changing anything.
In general when I see we are in control of the game with a decent lead I am not making any changes besides going to Normal tempo.
Because this is a high pressing tactic (expensive on players condition) near 70' and later I will progressively lower team's tempo (first going to Much lower) then adding 'Take a Breather'.
If you intend to try this one give your team some time to learn it. Also since there are no super tactics do not think your game coaching role is over you have to look out for that underperforming defender or the highly skilled opposition attacker causing you problems. (H)
A Youtube vid with Chably's historic victory goals against OM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUEUlFovIA8
And finally a download link for the tactic:
4-2-3-1_Overachiever_43D766F3-57BF-4E96-B816-9EF78D9E77C7
PS - apologies for the long, pictures heavy, overwhelming post. I just wanted to be as detailed so that people understand in the best possible way.
been struggling for over a year to create a 4-2-3-1 wide formation playing as close the AI does. After long time and some hard effort I think I 've come to a good one which I would like to share with you.
Here is the Formation:
View attachment 111255
Let me explain some of the elements in this tactic. What I wanted was:
- Good balance between attack and defence
- defend as efficiently as possible since I have mediocre defenders
- be able to transition in the Attacking phase as fast as possible
- being able to patiently build up and create chances against organised opposition defence
- the striker should participate in the game create and score (a tough task in 4-2-3-1)
- should win possession providing a safer approach to the game
- press the opposition defence to prevent building their play from the back-provoking long balls and clearings
- tactic should work both for home and away games
The tactic's heart is the AP. Lorenzo Pellegrini a 'Serie B class' midfielder is having the time of his life and has skyrocketed his personal statistics and value as well (was brought as a free transfer). This player is the brain of the team so all mental attributes should be to a decent level.
View attachment 111254
The second most important creative player is the AM(C). He will provide chances and also complement the lone Striker in the center of the attack, occasionally finding the net as well. Zezinho another free signing from Brazil also having a good season helping the team with 3 goals and 4 assists. This one should have creative (Passing, Decisions, Vision) and decent attacking attributes (Off the ball, Finishing, Long Shots).
View attachment 111253
About the two Wingers. I want them to be able to penetrate opposition defence and either create or score. Ideally I would like them to have good Pace, Acceleration, Agility, Stamina, Off the Ball, Dribbling, Decisions, Crossing, Passing and the usual Teamwork, Workrate, Determination.
But since I am a low profile club and can't attract good players I focused on Pace, Acceleration, Agility, Dribbling.
The AMLs:
View attachment 111252View attachment 111251
and the AMRs:
View attachment 111250View attachment 111249
And the Striker. I have experimented with many roles (DF, DLF, T, AF) and found out that the Complete Forward is the most efficient one - also the most expensive in attributes but don't let that hold you back. I again focused on a player able to run fast toward the opposition area and penetrate their line if needed, I also looked for decent attacking, finishing and mental stats.
Soumare was bought from STVV for 185k (!) and he is having a great season so far - also considered as the key player of my team in the Club page. Bianco is with us for the 2nd season (also loaned him when in League 2) and proves a very good back up with decent potential. To sum it up the attributes I look for are Pace, Acceleration, Agility, Dribbling, Off the Ball, Finishing, Composure, Decisions, Determination.
View attachment 111248View attachment 111247
The DLP. This is the only position being sacrificed meaning that he rarely gets a high rating but also almost never underperforms. His primary task is to sit very deep and provide the extra strength in the defensive line (forming a 5-man back line at some point) while claiming opposition clearings and recycling possession. He will also provide some support on the left fullback when attacking but this player is not really participating in the attacking phase of the game. As you can see both are BWM rather than DLP but that was done intentionally as my defenders are mediocre and preferred the extra protection to creativity.
View attachment 111244View attachment 111243
Our defenders aren't something special, I will prefer again speed for the fullbacks at the flank and at least one Central defender being physically strong and good in claiming headers. I also look for decent mental attributes to avoid errors, wild clearings and promote my 'Play out of Defence' instruction.
View attachment 111240View attachment 111241View attachment 111242View attachment 111239
This tactic brought great success in my second season in French League 2 with Footbal Club de Chably-Thelle promoting us to League1 and earning me the overachiever achievement.(H)
View attachment 111238
The above players' screenshots come from our League1 adventure (current season). Take a look at some statistics highlights.
Standings:
View attachment 111237
Average Possession:
View attachment 111236
Pass Completion:
View attachment 111233
Shots on Target:
View attachment 111232
Dribbles per game:
View attachment 111228
Tacklings Won:
View attachment 111227
Needless to say I started the season with the goal to fight bravely against relegation and was tipped 2000:1 by the bookmakers to win the title.
Managing the team inside the game: I was expecting the AI to exploit the gap behind my AP and so it happened to some extent until I put the 'Hold Position' instruction on this role.
If we are back at the score, I won't rush in tactical alterations first wanting to see how the team responds to getting behind.
If I see we need to push more first move is to add the 'Look for Overlap' instruction.
If we need more pressure I will then add the 'Get Further Forward' instruction to both Fullbacks.
If nothing good occurs (seldom) I will then put both fullbacks to Attacking and change the Team Mentality to Control.
If we win with one goal I won't be changing anything.
In general when I see we are in control of the game with a decent lead I am not making any changes besides going to Normal tempo.
Because this is a high pressing tactic (expensive on players condition) near 70' and later I will progressively lower team's tempo (first going to Much lower) then adding 'Take a Breather'.
If you intend to try this one give your team some time to learn it. Also since there are no super tactics do not think your game coaching role is over you have to look out for that underperforming defender or the highly skilled opposition attacker causing you problems. (H)
A Youtube vid with Chably's historic victory goals against OM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUEUlFovIA8
And finally a download link for the tactic:
4-2-3-1_Overachiever_43D766F3-57BF-4E96-B816-9EF78D9E77C7
PS - apologies for the long, pictures heavy, overwhelming post. I just wanted to be as detailed so that people understand in the best possible way.
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