4-3-3 La Macia Discussion Thread

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Struggling

Hey, I started a season using Leeds, in the Championship. It's going really well some games, but horribly wrong in others. I'm 6 games into my season in the championship and I'm currently sitting 6th, but whenever I come up against the likes of, Nottingham Forest, Burnley, Q.P.R I always seem to conceded a lot of goals. This is my recent run of form which starts at the pre-season friendlies (which I also used your formation in).
http://img809.imageshack.us/f/helpi.png/

here's the fluidity
http://img43.imageshack.us/f/fluidity.png/

This is the team I use. (Juande, CDM, is there because he's young and Faye was getting old)
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/teamwo.png/

It'd be appreciated if you could get back as fast as possible. I'm also playing this on version 11.2.1
 
CallumHowey said:
Hey, I started a season using Leeds, in the Championship. It's going really well some games, but horribly wrong in others. I'm 6 games into my season in the championship and I'm currently sitting 6th, but whenever I come up against the likes of, Nottingham Forest, Burnley, Q.P.R I always seem to conceded a lot of goals. This is my recent run of form which starts at the pre-season friendlies (which I also used your formation in).
http://img809.imageshack.us/f/helpi.png/

here's the fluidity
http://img43.imageshack.us/f/fluidity.png/

This is the team I use. (Juande, CDM, is there because he's young and Faye was getting old)
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/teamwo.png/

It'd be appreciated if you could get back as fast as possible. I'm also playing this on version 11.2.1
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Set match prep on defensive position
Sort your training schedules out on your defenders to passing
Beyond that, I'll be needing screenshots of the games your losing, match stats and a little bit on how the goals were conceded
I'm in the championship with Middlesbrough with this right now and its working pretty good only goals I concede are individual error goals

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basto said:
A question please
with a left footed players on the right we have to put the same settings as the left winger ?
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Cut inside-Yes
Cross Aim: Untick
 
Right so I've put all my defenders on a schedule depending on where they play, and then for individual training I've put them on passing.
This is starting from the first loss. The yellow card bit's cut off since you can see who got carded by looking above the shots.

Burnley
http://img715.imageshack.us/i/teamlossburnley21.png/
Positions where goals were conceded
http://img811.imageshack.us/i/teamlossburnley21goals.png/

Reading
http://img155.imageshack.us/i/teamlossreading21.png/
Positions where goals were conceded
http://img23.imageshack.us/i/teamlossreading21goals.png/

Q.P.R
http://img90.imageshack.us/i/teamlossqpr31.png/
Positions where goals were conceded
http://img703.imageshack.us/i/teamlossqpr31goals.png/

Nottingham Forest
http://img703.imageshack.us/i/teamlossforest42.png/
Positions where goals were conceded
http://img714.imageshack.us/i/teamlossforest42goals.png/

I missed out the pre-season games because I lost against Fulham and Porto which are two reasonably good teams where I expected to lose.
 
Give me match stats mate, go to stats tab in the fixtures and screeny the match stats, not home or away or player MATCH. Need to see posession, shots CCC's etc
Tip: When you take and save a screeny in paint I'm guessing use the attachments bit of advanced post and upload from computer, that way I can look at them quicker and in closer detail
 
Simple looking problems: Your opposition are not creating much in the way of CCC's and your creating ALOT (Exception of the Burnley game)
Your goals are bing conceded from the edge of the box which, just set OI to close down both the opposition ST's always.
A few of those results you were extremely unlucky hitting the woodwork alot and missing CCC's but your passing seems pretty weak, my pass success is 90 pct consistently and yours is fluctuating between 78 and 81
Just work on the individual training focus on all your defenders and midfielders to passing, and whoever it is you noticed get all the best chances your creating train him on finishing to start converting the CCC's
 
Thanks a lot man, I'll start getting down to it. I'll get back later on today (hopefully) and tell you how the results go.
 
if you come against better side or similar side you always loose esp in away games. sorry bro for me this tactic only works in home games against weaker sides.
 
santosh82 said:
if you come against better side or similar side you always loose esp in away games. sorry bro for me this tactic only works in home games against weaker sides.
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Maybe for you, plenty of others have enjoyed success with this.
My screenshots are from home and away games sometimes the opposition (at their ground) have one shot the entire game
Maybe if instead of criticising the tactic you would post a screenshot of your own losses then me and others could help?
Show me your losses (match stats) and we'll see how 'bad' this tactic is mate,
More info would be needed than just your word saying 'its a bad tactic because its not plug and play'.
 
Totally outplayed by liverpool but thats against liverpool away. so........................

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Jimmer said:
Maybe for you, plenty of others have enjoyed success with this.
My screenshots are from home and away games sometimes the opposition (at their ground) have one shot the entire game
Maybe if instead of criticising the tactic you would post a screenshot of your own losses then me and others could help?
Show me your losses (match stats) and we'll see how 'bad' this tactic is mate,
More info would be needed than just your word saying 'its a bad tactic because its not plug and play'.
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i am not criticising dude. great tactic wonderful to watch but not working against better teams for me.

forgive me if my initial post made you feel that way.
 
Your root problem is a BIG one, pass success is way down, 63 pct is horrific. Thats your problem, try individual focus passing on your defenders. Also creative freedom to the minimum on players who are the cause of it. Even in defeat your passing should be 80 pct pluss. Change your st role if its andy carroll to targetman attack
 
Jimmer said:
Your root problem is a BIG one, pass success is way down, 63 pct is horrific. Thats your problem, try individual focus passing on your defenders. Also creative freedom to the minimum on players who are the cause of it. Even in defeat your passing should be 80 pct pluss. Change your st role if its andy carroll to targetman attack
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will try that in next game and post the results
 
Put match prep screeshot up if you could as well please mate see how fluidity levels are
 
Jimmer said:
Put match prep screeshot up if you could as well please mate see how fluidity levels are
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my team

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anybody playing as newcastle can please tell me whether your a able to sell ameobi, pearch rayn taylor etc.. i am offering them for less than half the market value but no one buys.
 
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Testing it with my Foggia in Italian Serie A...I use the tactic in the middle season, even if I was 5th with a 4-3-1-2, because I'm a hardcore fan of 4-3-3 (6)(6)(6)

These are the result after 12 games (5win-5drawn-2 lost -19 scored an 12 sub. )
Foggia.-Inter 0-1
Ascoli-Foggia 1-1
Foggia-Juventus 0-2
Foggia-Bologna 4-1
Palermo-Foggia 0-1
Cesena-Foggia 1-1
Foggia-Catania 2-1
Genoa-Foggia 2-2 (half time 2-0)
Foggia-Lazio 1-1
Milan-Foggia 2-2 (half time 1-0)
Lecce-Foggia 0-2
Foggia-Napoli 3-0

My impressions...the team play seems to be unstoppable and beautiful, but only in some moments of the game - with the interesting passing play style- In addiction, I produce a small number of shoots. The possession is very often less than opponent (the average is near 46%) but I Have more clear chances.
Interesting, instead, the data of set pieces and corner, where I am more dangerous (attacking) and less weaker than with the previous tactic.
Actually, after the 12 games, I'm 4TH:


Juve 72 (32 games)
Milan 71 (" " )
Inter 59 (" " )
Foggia 58 (" " )
Roma 57 (33 games)
Cagliari (33 games)

I'll update with my final result and screenshoot as soon as possibile :)

PS: nice work with the tactic ;)
 
This tactic is great but i get too many yellow cards.What should i do? Sorry for my bad english.
 
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