Anything visibly wrong with this tactic?

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Hi guys, I've what is essentially a 4-3-3 tactic that aims to control the ball, whilst being effective in attack, by providing lots of through balls and incisive passes. Before I launch a full scale test into the tactic, I was wondering if anyone could potentially point out any visible flaws in it. I'm pretty bad at making tactics in this years' game but I'm hoping this one might work. The only player instructions I have used are:

GK: Distribute to Defenders
LWB: Stay Wider
LW: Sit Narrower

Here's a screenshot of the formation with team instructions/mentality etc.. hope you guys can help out!
 
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Short passing, retain possession & drop deep could cause problems since you have a lot of players with an attack duty. They won't be coming back into play to offer passing options, instead they'll be moving forward expecting service. You might end up with players shooting from distance or passing backwards.

I don't think you have enough supporting roles in midfield and you'll struggle to retain possession (which is what the control mentality aims to do)


Why play the offside trap if you're dropping deep?
 
Short passing, retain possession & drop deep could cause problems since you have a lot of players with an attack duty. They won't be coming back into play to offer passing options, instead they'll be moving forward expecting service. You might end up with players shooting from distance or passing backwards.

I don't think you have enough supporting roles in midfield and you'll struggle to retain possession (which is what the control mentality aims to do)

Why play the offside trap if you're dropping deep?

Thanks, it seems pretty obvious when it's pointed out to you. I've changed to an AP(S) and IF(S) and taken offside trap off. The main idea with that was if the opposition did attack, then the defence would try and catch them offside if they used through balls, whilst not being hit so hard by balls over the top. Thanks for the feedback, might start testing a bit later.
 
Short passing, retain possession & drop deep could cause problems since you have a lot of players with an attack duty. They won't be coming back into play to offer passing options, instead they'll be moving forward expecting service. You might end up with players shooting from distance or passing backwards.

I don't think you have enough supporting roles in midfield and you'll struggle to retain possession (which is what the control mentality aims to do)


Why play the offside trap if you're dropping deep?

he should be fine with the midfield trio and the FCF on support

Again should control mid (BBM is actually a halfway between DM and CM, not CM and AM)

Agree about Offside trap though

And pull the left WB back to FB
 
There is plenty cover with the BBM on that side along with the half back for the left wing back to stay where he is.

An adjustment to fluidity with the amount of specialist roles you have. Look at wwfans 12 step guide for assistance with this.
 
The LWB was put in place to take advantage of the narrower IF, so theoretically the wing back provides the actual width whilst the IF exploits the space in behind the F9. I'll see how it works and if I'm getting hammered down the left side, I might drop him into the FB slot with an attacking mentality.

EDIT: I'll change to fluid as that allows two specialist roles (AP and F9), I might get away with the BBM as that is in between specialist and non-specialist.
 
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If you mean the space between striker and the mkdfield, there wont be much space here at all because a false 9 operates in this postion.


No I meant the space created when the striker drops deep. The IF takes advantage of that as defenders are drawn to the deeper F9, making it easier to play in behind using the IF


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Others have already alluded to it, but "Very Fluid" and "Be More Expressive" is basically telling your players to do whatever they want and will undermine your team-wide tactics and overall shape. I would switch to "Fluid" and reserve the "Be More Expressive" for your grab-a-late-goal-to-rescue-a-match-with-all-out-attacking tactic.

- A decent left-sided full-back with attacking skills, rather than a wing-back, set to the Attack duty will get the job done - especially as you have "Look For Overlap" selected. I'd tell that full-back to Get Further Forward and Cross More Often, too. Staggering your defensive line the way you have will provide opportunities for the opposition to exploit the gaps in your defensive line.

- Personally, I don't like Inside Forwards - they always seem to run into centre-backs - but I can see what you're thinking with the full-back going outside him. I might be more inclined to put the IF on Support duty, so that he can feed the AP_A, W_A and F-9 as they make runs ahead of him, as well as feeding the DL_A down the left wing.

- Tell the F-9 to Move into Channels and Pass Shorter and if the IF can shoot from distance on his right foot, so much the better. I wouldn't play a lone front-man unless he is at least 6ft1in tall; he needs to be good in the air, too, as your team's primary goalscorer.

- You've got Shorter Passing and Retain Possession selected, so I'd push the boat out a little and select High Tempo and Exploit the Flanks; get your team dominating midfield and bring those wide men into the game more often.

- Pass Into Space seems to contradict possession football to me, but the game does allow you to select them simultaneously. But if you find that you're constantly losing the ball to interceptions, that might be the cause.

- Ideally, you want one or more of your central midfielders to have "Likes to Switch Ball to Other Flank" and/or "Tries Long Range Passes" among their attributes so you can instruct them to play "More Direct Passes" in the individual Player Instructions to encourage them to move the ball from one wing to the other quickly when progress is halted down one side. The space is often on the far side of the play, so being able to shift possession to the opposite flank quickly and safely gives you attacking options against stretched defences.

- The Advanced Playmaker_Attack will be most effective if he is able to run with the ball at pace to carry possession into the final third. When he gets there, your IF_S, W_A and F-9 should all be providing options for the short pass - with the DL_A and BBM_S coming up for a second wave of attack.

- It would be worth testing what difference it makes to having bodies in the box if you play an IF_S vs and IF_A when the right-sided W_A has the ball on the wing.

- Thinking about what we now have - with all of my changes applied - the False-9 becomes superfluous; when he drops deep he's going to occupy the same spaces as the AF_A and the IF_S and won't always be up-front to provide the killer touch. An Advanced Forward_Attack might be prone to offside but a fast one can punish an opponent's high line. If you have a player who is up to the job, then a Complete Forward_Attack could be your best option. I'd watch how effective he is at holding the ball up during counter-attacks; if he has a tendency to go too far forward and lose it to the centre-back, then swap him to Support duty.
 
At work so can't provide a full response to what rocheyb has said but a false 9 can't have moves into channels as a player instrupction

And the inside forward is perfect to make runs into space behind the defenders where the false 9 has dragged them deeper.


Your tactic is somewhat similar to one I'm using in a different thread, and the only real way to know if it works is watching the matches. But the shape is fine.
 
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