Beating the big teams with Bayern.

[swanseaboy93]

So I can easily beat the mid table clubs and lower, however I simply struggle against the Dortmunds, Schalkes, Man utds etc. I can understand with a team like aston villa playing Arsenal having a very defensive, counter attack style, but as Bayern I aim to control the game. I jus played Arsenal in the quarter final of Champions league and got battered 6-0 away. I had a balanced team with Madzukic, two attacking wingers, an attacking midfielder, gotze i think in this game, Kroos in cm and Martinez in the anchor man defensive role. But I still conceded 6 and failed to score. What are the best tactics for these matches?

 

[Igneos79]

Tactical Styles | Football Manager 2014 Guide

 

[beeje13]

Its hard to know without knowing your formation/player duties exactly, but the tactic could be really conflicting and unbalanced and with bayern you can still win the smaller teams because of their superior quality players.

 

[swanseaboy93]

well what are the best tactics against any big team though, forget my team, what is a general rule or ideal tacttics?

 

[beeje13]

Well, normally, I would play it more cautiously, but seeing as you're Bayern, there should still be a way to play attacking against big teams.

 

[swanseaboy93]

yeah, thats what i thought. I have just decided to leave bayern as it has now got to the point where I simply have no clue on tactics. I feel FM14 is much more random than previous FM's. I have just lost away to stuttgart 4-2 after ebating arsenal at home 3-0. Makes no sense. they were supposed to have one of the worst work rates and concede a lot from the right wing so I concentrated on that but obviously just couldn't get anything from that.

 

[beeje13]

If you are really struggling, just keep it as simple as possible or you will just confuse yourself even more. Try building a simple 4231, standard mentality, and balanced/fluid philosophy. Leave team and player instructions for now. Just make sure that you have some defensive balance and movement.

My suggestions: GK, 2 full backs, 1 central defender and and one ball player, 2 central midfielders, 2 wide attacking midfielders, 1 central attacking midfielder, 1 striker.

You can play about with the roles/duties but don't have both the full back and the winger on the same side with an attacking mentality, or you will just be opened up. Try having a support fullback with an attack winger on one side, and an attack full back with a support inside forward on the other side.

The fullback has little reason to attack with a winger because they both offer the same job in attack, but an inside forward will cut in and leave the space for a fullback.

 

[beeje13]

Centrally, you could have a deep lying playmaker set to defend, alongside a box-to-box midfielder. I would only recommend this to a strong team like Bayern, as it is not a water-tight midfield, unless you have suitable quality players. Just make sure that the DLP(D) does NOT have 'gets forward when possible'.

I like an attacking midfielder set to attack as this position seems to get just as much goals as a striker. Also you cant go far wrong with an advanced forward as your striker.

Bayern have some great players to fit these positions also.