I'm currently playing a Spurs game where I'm trying to recreate 'arry's tactics: two fast wingers looking to cross towards Crouch, with van der Vaart close behind as a second striker/AMC. Unfortunately it's clear that this simply isn't as effective in FM: even against a League 2 team in a friendly we didn't manage more than 14% completed crosses, and the majority of these came from corners. In open play it's almost impossible to consistently get accurate crosses to your target man.
Bored of the fast striker
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b4 i only used a tall striker ,i played with LFC and bought players as Iaquinta, or what the **** his name is, he was a super TM on FM 07, he was allways the top scorer in the league, but now, when i play LFC i was super happy cuzz Carrol signed, but cuzz' the low cross-rate of the game he never scorer, ha have like 5 goals on 25 matches.
I hope they bring back the crosses from FM 07, its more realistic that way too..
I hope they bring back the crosses from FM 07, its more realistic that way too..
I think it's the marking system.In order to have some succes with crosses you have to "hide" players.WB-AMC has some succes if you have the right players,something like Baines-Cahill.The question is how do you "hide" winger-TM combo.
Big slow target men will never work by themselfs, you need one that has half decent pace and can dribble fairly well too.
Crosses never really work and you can't rely on just corners/free kicks to give him shots.
You need to have somone playing off him to get anything out of using a target man, unless you play with a slow tempo and work the ball up the field where you can either feed the ball to him or you get a lucky cross in.
I use Necid and Neymar up front currently, Necid's big and strong and isn't too bad at running with the ball and neymar's the weak little sprinty dude who runs of Necid.
Crosses never really work and you can't rely on just corners/free kicks to give him shots.
You need to have somone playing off him to get anything out of using a target man, unless you play with a slow tempo and work the ball up the field where you can either feed the ball to him or you get a lucky cross in.
I use Necid and Neymar up front currently, Necid's big and strong and isn't too bad at running with the ball and neymar's the weak little sprinty dude who runs of Necid.
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Try to change the run with ball to rarely, through ball sometimes, closing down half pitch (close to own area). You will need fast AM to link balls to him, use then with inside forward if your striker is bad header and pass short so they will come closer to your guy to pass to feet, but if he is a good header and your AM good at crossing use as winger. Use Move into channels with the striker too, don't use target man. Creativity (for the ST) must be less as possible, close to normal. Run from deep rarely. This worked for me with Adriano at Corinthians, his average score is 1 per game.
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Ah, you are trying to do the same thing as me... In order to succeed in making the big man play well, you got to give him a complete forward role with support duty. Tick the target man option and put it as mixed. Next, you got to have 2 inside forwards (attack ) on the flank ( if you have wrong footed players ) / 2 advanced playmakers attack (attack ) on the flank ( if they are one footed ) , ready to latch on to through balls from the big man. Then you need to have a CM - attack or an AMC - attack in order to give him a 3 rd passing option. These 3 players will either score themselves or assist the big man. Works all the time for me. Also have a CM - deep lying playmaker support and DM - def mid support to provide through balls from a distance and to sweep up crosses.
If your big man has an acceleration and dribbling of even 12 or 13, he will also score some super solo goals.
Hope this works.
If your big man has an acceleration and dribbling of even 12 or 13, he will also score some super solo goals.
Hope this works.
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this formation is extremely narrow,nobody crosses,wingers cut inside and almost every player hits through balls for a lone striker who definitely must be a fast one.It's the exact opposite thing that I would like to play with some succes.
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Adriano is not a fast striker and he is my top goal scorer. Im using Celso Borges with Sport Recife(Brazil second division) and scoring a lot of goals too.
Could it be that crossing to a target man just isn't very effective at the highest level? The nature of a floated cross is that it stays in the air for ages and one of the centre backs, goalie, or anyone else in the box should get to it before your single target man if they're any good at their job. Given that they've got position, numbers, and familiarity all on their side to get under that ball first.
You use Crouch as the example but he was hardly scoring for fun last year, and now Spurs may be looking to sell him. Maybe you should try playing a team in a lower league where physical tactics are more effective?
You use Crouch as the example but he was hardly scoring for fun last year, and now Spurs may be looking to sell him. Maybe you should try playing a team in a lower league where physical tactics are more effective?
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Well Crouch didn't score because he headed the ball back to VDV most of the time.Maybe it's hard to score that way but that doesn't stop a big man like him to challenge for alot of balls inside the penalty area.I just can't make that happen in fm.
I ran it with Dzeko as a target man attack in man city, had two wingers (combination of silva-hazard-balotelli) with tevez playing as an Adv playmaker support behind him seem to work well, he ave 40 goals a season for the first two seasons before i got bored and tried to play quicker. Formation was a 4-2-3-1 deep with an anchor man next to a DLP/DM
Then explain to me why Liverpool spent 40M on Carroll?
Anyways, as long as there's no change in the match engine I can't see tall, strong number 9s becoming effective - the game is simply too skewed in favour of the quick striker at the moment.
As i mentioned before, the crosses in the game are simply too flat and low. Even a 5'8" CM who is in the box can head the ball away. If the match engine actually produced floated crosses (I've tried "far post" instructions for an entire season) you would see more headers.
I picked up a 6'8" regen with excellent jumping and heading and at 19 years old he does okay. He will get 1 or 2 headers inside the box per game (his lack of aggression is worrying though as he won't fight as hard to win headers in box). I think realistically averaging 4-5 would be about right for a player like him. SI would need to finally figure out how to model headers going wide though as 95% of them go on target or over the net.
Snatcher...you could always try making your own tactic. Make sure you have a tall aggressive header in the middle and devise some tactic that would create space for a clean uncontested cross. That may be the best bet
I picked up a 6'8" regen with excellent jumping and heading and at 19 years old he does okay. He will get 1 or 2 headers inside the box per game (his lack of aggression is worrying though as he won't fight as hard to win headers in box). I think realistically averaging 4-5 would be about right for a player like him. SI would need to finally figure out how to model headers going wide though as 95% of them go on target or over the net.
Snatcher...you could always try making your own tactic. Make sure you have a tall aggressive header in the middle and devise some tactic that would create space for a clean uncontested cross. That may be the best bet
Good points, also about the headers. Right now it seems to me like balls "bounce" off a player's head, instead of him actually directing it somewhere.