Can't win away against big teams...

Take a step back, calm down and just watch moments like those. If it happens a lot, think about what could be done to prevent it from happening in future.
 
If you really are still struggling in these big games, post up your complete tactic from the game and the PKM of it, if you don't mind. That way I/we can help you analyse what's going on.
 
WJ said:
If you really are still struggling in these big games, post up your complete tactic from the game and the PKM of it, if you don't mind. That way I/we can help you analyse what's going on.
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PKM?
 
After a match or if you click on a fixture, there's an option to Save Match. It saves it as a PKM, which is a small file (only a few KBs) and can be watched by anyone with FM15 and is on the same version/build as you.
 
WJ said:
After a match or if you click on a fixture, there's an option to Save Match. It saves it as a PKM, which is a small file (only a few KBs) and can be watched by anyone with FM15 and is on the same version/build as you.
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Okay I will post everything.
 
Is this just the same match? You haven't put any effort into learning anything by yourself? You haven't played another big match with this tactic a bit more fluid? You haven't even read my last post properly?

I'm sorry, but if you're going to be lazy, I'm not going to even try.
 
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Is this just the same match? You haven't put any effort into learning anything by yourself? You haven't played another big match with this tactic a bit more fluid? You haven't even read my last post properly?

I'm sorry, but if you're going to be lazy, I'm not going to even try.
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I tried as much as possible during the course of the game to see what is missing. I went from 1 TI to 7 and the result improved to a 2-1 loss but I was still dominated. I cannot understand what you mean. If you mean that this is the same match against Man Utd then yes I don't save the result because I am experimenting everything in this match since the beginning of the thread. Is there a problem with that?
 
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I mean exactly what I said. Read it again.

You made many changes, so the tactic isn't fluid. Why didn't you try this again in the next big match with the tactic more fluid? Why didn't you post your analysis of that Man Utd vs Arsenal match?

I've also asked that you post your complete tactic along with the PKM. You haven't even done that. How am I supposed to know with what settings you played that match?

AGAIN, you're just randomly adding TIs. If you're playing around from 1 TI to 7 TIs, you're not thinking and just hoping to get lucky. Fine if you want to play a lottery, but I don't want any part of it.
 
WJ said:
I mean exactly what I said. Read it again.

You made many changes, so the tactic isn't fluid. Why didn't you try this again in the next big match with the tactic more fluid? Why didn't you post your analysis of that Man Utd vs Arsenal match?

I've also asked that you post your complete tactic along with the PKM. You haven't even done that. How am I supposed to know with what settings you played that match?

AGAIN, you're just randomly adding TIs. If you're playing around from 1 TI to 7 TIs, you're not thinking and just hoping to get lucky. Fine if you want to play a lottery, but I don't want any part of it.
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The tactic is accomplished and about 90% full. I thought that was enough, plus as soon as I finished the game I sent you the PKM. I didn't have time to post my analysis OR take the screenshot because of personal issues, so I will post them tomorrow. Plus I only had 3 TIs until the 80th min when I was chasing an equalizer, so I made some of my old TIs which helped me in the past. I don't want to get lucky or anything like that. I am still learning and I would really appreciate your help.
 
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That's certainly different to what you originally had and you're still not bothering to show instructions?? You're also still showing 7 instructions?? Chopping and changing all over the place isn't going to help you.
 
WJ said:
That's certainly different to what you originally had and you're still not bothering to show instructions?? You're also still showing 7 instructions?? Chopping and changing all over the place isn't going to help you.
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Well I started with the Work Ball Into Box and slowly I added shorter passing and Exploit the flanks. Until the 80th min when I started chasing an equaliser I added More Direct Passing, Push higher up, Retain Possession, Higher Tempo and Be More Expressive. So what do you think?
 
Looking at the analysis, Depay was wasteful with his shooting.

Watching just the highlights of the first 20 mins, I'm convinced you're not watching matches.

Your front 3

- They are completely separated from the rest of the team. On the counter, the ball doesn't get quickly to them - and that's the reason they're all there!

- When the counter isn't on you're struggling to find them, because for some reason you've added shorter passing. Your midfield of 3 is trying to pass short through a compact midfield of 4. Your front three are waiting, but hardly get the ball.

- They're static. Depay does well on the left, but the other two don't provide too much. For the most part, the 3 of them are camped on the shoulder of 4 defenders. It doesn't make sense. At least one needs to drop off and be available for a pass.

- In defence, the front 3 is doing nothing. The AML/AMR do track the fullbacks somewhat, but let them go 15-20 yards in the opposition's half still. That means Rafael and especially Shaw have all the freedom to be available for a pass, to pull your players wide before passing back to the middle or cross. Letting the fullbacks (Shaw in particular) go was a big part of your downfall here.
 
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Looking at the analysis, Depay was wasteful with his shooting.

Watching just the highlights of the first 20 mins, I'm convinced you're not watching matches.

Your front 3

- They are completely separated from the rest of the team. On the counter, the ball doesn't get quickly to them - and that's the reason they're all there!

- When the counter isn't on you're struggling to find them, because for some reason you've added shorter passing. Your midfield of 3 is trying to pass short through a compact midfield of 4. Your front three are waiting, but hardly get the ball.

- They're static. Depay does well on the left, but the other two don't provide too much. For the most part, the 3 of them are camped on the shoulder of 4 defenders. It doesn't make sense. At least one needs to drop off and be available for a pass.

- In defence, the front 3 is doing nothing. The AML/AMR do track the fullbacks somewhat, but let them go 15-20 yards in the opposition's half still. That means Rafael and especially Shaw have all the freedom to be available for a pass, to pull your players wide before passing back to the middle or cross. Letting the fullbacks (Shaw in particular) go was a big part of your downfall here.
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So your suggestion is, I shouldn't have added shorter passing, should have turned Depay to an IF (S) and Ox to (S) at least right?
And yes, I was watching Extended highlights for the most part.
 
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I'm not going to spoon-feed you any more. I've given you quite a bit to think about. Read my advice, think about it and try and understand what I'm saying. Watch the match (or even a section of it) again to see what I'm talking about. Make sure you see it too.

Edit: Why did you give all 3 of them attack duties? You had a W/S before, but you changed it. Why?
 
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WJ said:
I'm not going to spoon-feed you any more. I've given you quite a bit to think about. Read my advice, think about it and try and understand what I'm saying. Watch the match (or even a section of it) again to see what I'm talking about. Make sure you see it too.

Edit: Why did you give all 3 of them attack duties? You had a W/S before, but you changed it. Why?
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The match before I thought we didn't attack well so I took a dull risk. Anyway, massive thank you for these advices, I will try to learn from them. Thanks again, you've been a really big help :) :)
 
The risk is fine, but then get the ball to them quickly, otherwise it's pointless having the setup you have and it doesn't fit with being careful in defence. You have three players not dropping in to help defend.
 
Okay. I will try to experiment and understsnd as much as possible then inform you on my progress. Maybe tomorrow.
 
Okay so after starting a new save, and looking into your advice which is also mentioned in this article (Which helped me a lot): FM Central: Avoiding the 6 month slump... Fluidity and Mentality in FM14 ** Part 1 **

I am finally having a success against big teams. Defeated Man City in the CS 3-1 (after losing 4-1 in the latest save), defeated MU 1-0 away and Chelsea 2-1 but had a draw against Liverpool 0-0. Still an awful lot better record than the last save. Thanks WJ!
 
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