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Fergie Targets 84 Points To Retain Title

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The Prem seriously needs a team other than ManU or Chelsea to win the title.
 
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The Prem seriously needs a team other than ManU or Chelsea to win the title.
well arsenal are currently the closest contenders... not that it matters anyway
 
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well arsenal are currently the closest contenders... not that it matters anyway
But they won't. If Vermaelen hadn't been injured maybe they might have done it, but they are too shaky at the back. Losing Fabianski was a big blow too. I suspect they'll have another injury crisis before the end of the season and that will seal it for ManU. Anyways, ManU hasn't been playing well this season and is going to improve. They should take the title with a few games to spare.

I think City will win it next season :S
As much as I don't like City, I would definitely prefer them to one of the Big 2, I think it would be good for the league to see a different team win it. Anyways, it's not like Chelsea and ManU didn't buy success, City just did it much faster.
 
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The Prem seriously needs a team other than ManU or Chelsea to win the title.
Don't see why, if the current trend keeps going. This season and last years have been some of the closest and most well-fought titles in years.
 
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Don't see why, if the current trend keeps going. This season and last years have been some of the closest and most well-fought titles in years.
and the year before that
 
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Don't see why, if the current trend keeps going. This season and last years have been some of the closest and most well-fought titles in years.
La Liga last year had a very closely fought title, and the SPL often does...it's good for a league to have more than two teams with a chance at winning the title.
 
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La Liga last year had a very closely fought title, and the SPL often does...it's good for a league to have more than two teams with a chance at winning the title.
yeah and the prem has been closely fought for the last 3 seasons including this one. there are 4 sides in with a shout this season.

AS for the SPL that is the ultimate two horse race.... im not sure what your point was
 
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Don't see why, if the current trend keeps going. This season and last years have been some of the closest and most well-fought titles in years.
How is this season a closely fought title? Who is challenging ManU for the title?

yeah and the prem has been closely fought for the last 3 seasons including this one. there are 4 sides in with a shout this season.

AS for the SPL that is the ultimate two horse race.... im not sure what your point was
That the Prem is a two horse race. It's always going to be ManU or Chelsea. If one of them has a bad season (Chelsea this year), you know the other will win it. Sure, unlike the SPL and La Liga the past two seasons (except this year the SPL is actually a three horse race, unlike La Liga or the Prem), one other team might have a "shout," but we know they're not going to win. Arsenal is only 5 points back, which really isn't that much, but I don't think they have a snowball's chance in **** at winning the league unless Vidic, Nani, and VDS all have season-ending injuries this weekend.

This might be changing though because Chelsea might be in a transitionary period and City is becoming a very good team faster than most people expected. And you never know, if Arsenal stays totally healthy next season, they might have a chance too. I'm just saying that it would be good for the league if City or Arsenal could grab a title at some point, and I think most non-ManU and Chelsea fans would agree. In fact, I think most Chelsea fans would rather see City win than ManU, and if Chelsea were starting to run away with the title at this point and ManU was far back, you would probably want Arsenal to take it from them if possible.
 
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I feel 84 points will be more than enough this season.

Though I am sure Liverpool felt the same about their 86 point haul, a couple of years ago.
 
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How is this season a closely fought title? Who is challenging ManU for the title?



That the Prem is a two horse race. It's always going to be ManU or Chelsea. If one of them has a bad season (Chelsea this year), you know the other will win it. Sure, unlike the SPL and La Liga the past two seasons (except this year the SPL is actually a three horse race, unlike La Liga or the Prem), one other team might have a "shout," but we know they're not going to win. Arsenal is only 5 points back, which really isn't that much, but I don't think they have a snowball's chance in **** at winning the league unless Vidic, Nani, and VDS all have season-ending injuries this weekend.

This might be changing though because Chelsea might be in a transitionary period and City is becoming a very good team faster than most people expected. And you never know, if Arsenal stays totally healthy next season, they might have a chance too. I'm just saying that it would be good for the league if City or Arsenal could grab a title at some point, and I think most non-ManU and Chelsea fans would agree. In fact, I think most Chelsea fans would rather see City win than ManU, and if Chelsea were starting to run away with the title at this point and ManU was far back, you would probably want Arsenal to take it from them if possible.
your first sentence is the same for la liga since Valencia. sure the others have a shout, but the always the same two

This season has swung back and forth, do you not remember chelsea being five points clearly everyone thinking they will run away with it... cue their spectacular collapse.

There are only two sides i dont want to see win if we dont, city or liverpool
 
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I feel 84 points will be more than enough this season.

Though I am sure Liverpool felt the same about their 86 point haul, a couple of years ago.
i wouldnt be suprised if the winning points total fell below 80 points to be honest, still think there is a sting in the tail out there
 
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Don't really care who else is involved, just want United to win it (would mean 19 titles and that would mean we are number one, with the most league titles) ,nothing else matters not even the European cup( I think Chelsea will win it this year) IMO
 
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your first sentence is the same for la liga since Valencia. sure the others have a shout, but the always the same two
Yeah, that's why it would be good for someone else to win La Liga. But the reason no one is right now is because Barca is one of the all-time great teams. Hopefully when this Barca team crumbles, it will be someone other than Real Madrid taking the title.

This season has swung back and forth, do you not remember chelsea being five points clearly everyone thinking they will run away with it... cue their spectacular collapse.
As for Chelsea, yes, as I said before, it's only going to be Chelsea or ManU. The title races between Celtic and Rangers or Real Madrid and Barca are often times close, but we criticize those leagues because it's good to have more than two teams with a shot at the title. The point I'm making is that the Prem is pretty much the same, so I hope to see a different team take the title at some point. That's why I don't mind City to much: at least someone is trying to break the duopoly. Also, I really didn't think Chelsea going to win it this season, I thought they were too old and that injuries could catch up to them. I was really surprised by their success early on. But you proved my point though: it's only going to be Chelsea or ManU.

Hopefully Arsenal can stay reasonably healthy next season, and they might have a chance since their young players should continue to improve. City should have a chance too. So next season might be the first time in years that someone other than Chelsea or ManU has a serious chance at taking the title, and I, like most neutrals, would love to see this happen. Of course I want Arsenal to win rather than City because of their fiscal policy, but I would prefer City to one of the Big 2 so things get changed up.

There are only two sides i dont want to see win if we dont, city or liverpool
You're saying you wouldn't rather see Tottenham or Arsenal take the title than Chelsea? I certainly would.

EPL is the most competitive league ever.
Sigh. In what way? Clearly, La Liga's title race is much more competitive. You lose a game and you're out of it, and I really don't think any English teams could challenge either Madrid or Barca if they played in Spain. And none of the English teams are that good this year. Chelsea is a shadow of its former self, Arsenal has a lot of injury problems, and this ManU team isn't half as good as the one in 08-09, when they had Tevez and Cristiano Ronaldo (and an in-form Rooney), and Scholes and company were even younger.

For Champions League spots? Yes, this year it is very competitive, you have 5 teams competing for four spots. Last season marked the first time this happened in England in years: you had another team actually breaking up the Big 4, since Liverpool fell apart. But still, it's not the most competitive 'ever,' and when you think about it, 5 fighting for 4 spots isn't that spectacular. La Liga in 08-09 had 6 very, very good Champions League caliber teams fighting for 4 CL spots, while in England it was the same big 4 (Villa looked capable of breaking it up for a while, but we all knew it wouldn't happen). In Italy, frequently you'll have 5 or 6 teams seriously in the CL race, sometimes 7.

The Prem the past two seasons have had the most 'good' teams, but even then, I personally think the bottom 10 of La Liga are better than the bottom 10 of the Prem. Look at how much Atletico and Sevilla are struggling since they constantly drop points to lower teams. Both of those are great teams with great players and they have a really hard time being consistent. True, Barca and Madrid almost always win, but those are exceptional teams.

The past two seasons I give the edge to the Prem in terms of overall quality but they're close, and I'm really sick of hearing all of the PL fanboys constantly talking about how it's miles ahead of Spain and Italy. It's just not true. The La Liga/SPL comparisons are particularly annoying considering the PL is the same, you only have two different teams that can win the title (and for the first time in a long time, one of those teams is struggling and probably won't finish in second).
 
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