***FM 14 TACTICAL THREAD***********************JASSAR*******

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romulo17 said:
jassar hello, I'm here again asking if the tik taka was released, sorry is that I got a time out
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tiki taka is still in the phase of testing


ivoddoni said:
at the end lost 5-4 (i hate this game, are we playing football or tennis?)
munchen won 2-1 against eintracht....
bye bye bundesliga
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maybe you loose many goals in the end? I agree with tip from Jassar in 1st post that u can loose many goals in last 25mins cause the opposite team is very often going more attacking then you should go with counter mentality and try to keep the ball using the retain posession and lower the tempo instructions
 
jassar said:
Yes u did it .i had a feeling when u posted SS of group stages I had a intitution that this year will be urs . This result is the best season with bomb
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it's amazing. it's possible to achieve everything with this tac. i just lost 1 game during season, against psg 0-1 after winning first leg of semi final 3-0. no losses against inter, barcelona, both manchester clubs, leverkusen & bekistas.

i've seen doing better if I use two kinds of forwards: one more likely to a false nine to come deep and get the balls and one a typical poacher. so dont use two similar strikers...

i also noticed that i'm getting way more better results with attacking match training.

i'm still not sure how to approach the defensive-line. like in champions league final i played with high d-line & counter, and I smashed them....
 
PLmajki said:
maybe you loose many goals in the end? I agree with tip from Jassar in 1st post that u can loose many goals in last 25mins cause the opposite team is very often going more attacking then you should go with counter mentality and try to keep the ball using the retain posession and lower the tempo instructions
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no mate....in this case 4 goals taken in the first 25 minutes.
 
ivoddoni said:
no mate....in this case 4 goals taken in the first 25 minutes.
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sorry to intrude,

but the 4 goals, were they from open play or set pieces? because if it set pieces, particularly corners, it may be good idea to check out the set piece thread

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/football-manager-2014-tactics/150891-%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A-throw-free-kicks-setup-%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2Ajassar.html

and

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot.../151315-set-pieces-how-do-you-have-yours.html

try out some of the suggested defensive set piece combinations until you are happy that you have the right one for your team, as each team have different strengths and weaknesses, so it is best to focus on the strengths, naturally.
 
Jaasar, the new set-pieces you uploaded look as though they are for tika-taka as the player positions represent that. How would you adapt them to the bomb 4222?
 
pn91 said:
it's amazing. it's possible to achieve everything with this tac. i just lost 1 game during season, against psg 0-1 after winning first leg of semi final 3-0. no losses against inter, barcelona, both manchester clubs, leverkusen & bekistas.

i've seen doing better if I use two kinds of forwards: one more likely to a false nine to come deep and get the balls and one a typical poacher. so dont use two similar strikers...

i also noticed that i'm getting way more better results with attacking match training.

i'm still not sure how to approach the defensive-line. like in champions league final i played with high d-line & counter, and I smashed them....
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hey mate, so you dont use the complete forward setting in this tactic you use a false nine and a poacher instead ?
 
Gannicus said:
<!!! Southampton = 2013/2014 League + FA cup-winners !!!>

PS: IF YOU WANT TO SUCCEED WITH ANY OF
JASSAR'S ALREADY PROVEN TACTICS, JUST
READ HIS ORIGINAL POST(s) ON THE FIRST PAGE!
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1. Which tactic did you use?
Jassar i.m.possible 14.2.1.

A 4231-formation (with CM's). It's a test version, but from my experience I'd say it's already 97% complete, only the defending set pieces needs tweaking. Once I updated the set pieces I went on a 24 unbeaten run (still unbeaten into new season). I'm quite sure my record would've looked even better if I tweaked the corner set pieces early on. I just replaced them with the new one's you posted in this thread for patch 14.2.1.

Screenshot of my unbeaten run:
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2. This is the league table:
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As you can see, I won the league with 89 points, only 6 points away from equalling Mourinho's legendary league record. I had 3 losses, and they all occured against top sides as Chelsea, Man Utd and City.


3. Media prediction:
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50-1 odds, predicted 12th position. In other words, a mid-table club.


4. Who scores the goals?
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People have been complaining (especially in the previous patch) about how strikers don't score. Well in this tactic, as you can see, Lewandowski didn't exactly have a hard time finding the net, and keep in mind that Southampton are not playing in any European tournaments, so I believe Lewandowski's goal record could've been even greater(!):
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I had to get Lewandowski because Rickie Lambert is too slow, and I can't put everything on Osvaldo's shoulders. I sold Wanyama and Schneiderlin (got Honda as replacement) to afford Lewandowski. He is the best lone striker you can get this patch, because 1) he never gets injured, 2) he's so **** good and consistent, 3) average wages.

5. Gameplay?
- The football my team played was very exciting, and pretty realistic as well.
- You see the front 4 (wingers, AMC and striker) are doing the attacking movements, the 2 CMs are supporting and holding possession and the back 4 are defending, the wingbacks rarely run up to attack.
- Jassar mentions that no D-line play is required, and that is because you don't get those annoying through balls from a team parking the bus.
- The team are very disciplined. Not much tackling, not a lot of fouls and this is the first time I'm finishing a season with ONLY 1 red card:
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- The AMC is the unsung hero of this tactic, while the striker he takes all the glory. If you have a bad AMC, it doesn't matter if you have Falcao or Messi as your striker; your AMC must be decent, he must be a teamplayer who likes to play through balls. Otherwise your strikers and wingers won't score. AMC = provides chances for the wingers as well.
- Here are some numbers from the FA-cup final I was playing against Manchester United on a neutral stadium:
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6. Other
I'll update more tomorrow, my laptop is starting to run low on battery I just noticed. I'll be happy to let you sticky this one as a review. As said, I'll fill in more tomorrow.


Thanks again, Jassar, for another masterpiece.
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Hi Gannicus i read your review on the I M POSSIBLE tactic and its really impressive however when i click on your link for the tactic it is set up differently than the one on the opening post, your link uses Dws but the one in opening post uses wingers , not sure which is correct.
 
US ARSENAL said:
hey mate, so you dont use the complete forward setting in this tactic you use a false nine and a poacher instead ?
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i do play with CF roles, but when chasing the players for the game I make user i have this player types...
 
garyhorton33 said:
Hi Gannicus i read your review on the I M POSSIBLE tactic and its really impressive however when i click on your link for the tactic it is set up differently than the one on the opening post, your link uses Dws but the one in opening post uses wingers , not sure which is correct.
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The one I'm linking with defensive wingers is the right one. The one in Jassar's opening post is a tactic for 14.1.14, I was also testing that one.

Big fan of 4-2-3-1. :) So far I can confidently say that the current 4231 of Jassar is the best one out there. I've literally tried them all, even the ones on the Korea FM forums.
 
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iota4u said:
sorry to intrude,

but the 4 goals, were they from open play or set pieces? because if it set pieces, particularly corners, it may be good idea to check out the set piece thread

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/football-manager-2014-tactics/150891-%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A-throw-free-kicks-setup-%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2Ajassar.html

and

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot.../151315-set-pieces-how-do-you-have-yours.html

try out some of the suggested defensive set piece combinations until you are happy that you have the right one for your team, as each team have different strengths and weaknesses, so it is best to focus on the strengths, naturally.
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no goals come from corners or free kicks.
1 through pass
2 on normal action
1 mistake of my gk (a long shot from middle pitch)
1 heading from crossing

i was using bomb away with drop deper d line (i was favourite)
May be it was only bad luck
Infact 4 days later using same tactic (bomb version home - high dline - offside - mentality attacking)
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Gannicus said:
The one I'm linking with defensive wingers is the right one. The one in Jassar's opening post is a tactic for 14.1.14, I was also testing that one.

Big fan of 4-2-3-1. :) So far I can confidently say that the current 4231 of Jassar is the best one out there. I've literally tried them all, even the ones on the Korea FM forums.
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Are you using both the away and normal version?
 
Gannicus said:
<!!! Southampton = 2013/2014 League + FA cup-winners !!!>
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This encouraged me to try this one my self. Fully updated with set pieces and everything.

Chose Hoffenheim for my test, and unfortunate it was crash and burn and got sacked after only 8 games which I think is a personal record :).

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I want to say tho, that I think it was the quality of the players rather than the tactic it self. You say AMC is the hero, and the only 2 players who could play that spot was pretty much injured through out the 8 games, so what you gonna do.

It did get me thinking though. It seems you have to have a certain amount of quality to pull this tactic of. Yes Southampton is predicted 12, but their team is pretty awesome even without Lewandowski. Im gonna try another save with this one, and see how it goes :)
 
whispers said:
Are you using both the away and normal version?
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Yes. Followed his guidance on match- and general training as well.

Brasmuss said:
This encouraged me to try this one my self. Fully updated with set pieces and everything.

Chose Hoffenheim for my test, and unfortunate it was crash and burn and got sacked after only 8 games which I think is a personal record :).

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I want to say tho, that I think it was the quality of the players rather than the tactic it self. You say AMC is the hero, and the only 2 players who could play that spot was pretty much injured through out the 8 games, so what you gonna do.

It did get me thinking though. It seems you have to have a certain amount of quality to pull this tactic of. Yes Southampton is predicted 12, but their team is pretty awesome even without Lewandowski. Im gonna try another save with this one, and see how it goes :)
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Well, I'm sorry to hear that man.. :/ Yeah, Southampton is by no means a weak team. We do have quality, but the squad is small and the quality is still worse than the other top clubs in England. I can only imagine how many records I would've broken if I was playing with a strong squad of Real Madrid or Bayern Munich's quality.

EDIT: And yes, the AMC is so important in the team. Whenever I was resting Gaston Ramirez (my main AMC), I had to rely on the wingers or the corners to pull off the trigger.
 
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Gannicus said:
The one I'm linking with defensive wingers is the right one. The one in Jassar's opening post is a tactic for 14.1.14, I was also testing that one.

Big fan of 4-2-3-1. :) So far I can confidently say that the current 4231 of Jassar is the best one out there. I've literally tried them all, even the ones on the Korea FM forums.
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Thanks for your swift reply, You say the most important player in your tactic is the AMC, could you do a screenie of their attributes please.
 
Can't wait until the I.MPOSSIBLE is uploaded :) It seems so gooooood
 
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