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Barca4ever11 said:
Ok,thank for the info.
Means i'll have to buy Reus/Isco :)
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Isco is very poor for WM position he has extremely poor Acceleration(only 13), Agility(14), Pace(13) and having such low numbers for these attributes makes him unable to beat opposition full backs most of the time but this is crucial for WM performance so he will be constantly gets tackled.

Reus only has "14" for Dribbling but optimal level is "17" and also he has only "13" for Technique but minimal level for this attribute is "14" and optimal "16"... so you need to improve his dribbling to "17" and technique at least to "14" and till that moment he will be gets tackles too often.

Mate, just look at the filters and the players' profiles at the OP... you can find all important attributes for the positions and minimal recommended level for them.



TotalFootballFan9 said:
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TACTIC HAS BEEN UPDATED TO V3

Heh, this update ends the war between this tactic and 3 strikers formations and Monstrous P&P on my testing stand. It puts Triumph V3 beyond any reach because the only how 3 strikers formations and Monstrous P&P were able to compete with Triumph it's only through more efficient use of "Short Corner" and "Long Flat Throw" PPM exploits(Triumph has much better attacking build-up play and defense then any 3 strikers formation potentially can have) and now Triumph are able to use these exploits with similar efficiency and the efficiency can be increased further when you have a left footed player for DR(the right full back) or if you use the mirror version then a right footed player for DR position.

Please notice TIs/PIs are no less important then set pieces instructions in order "Short Corner" and "Long Flat Throw" PPM exploits works and if you are going to change something then you must understand what are you doing because changes may harm how it works and it stops working. ​
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Barca4ever11 said:
Coz of my fav ACM player:Hachim Mastour :)
And i also have Jese and Rafinha,but Menez will get his chance :)
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Mastour is a great talent, but he's not good enough to play in Serie A first season. I would train and use Menez as a left midfielder. Even though his finishing is quite bad, his other stats are great for that position. He will get many chances to score for sure. He's right-footed, cut inside PPM and also a pretty strong left foot.
 
TotalFootballFan9 said:
Mate, if you look at the filters or the players' profiles at the OP then you'll see he is absolutely not the type of strikers you need for the tactic.

I would get rid of him as soon as possible till his reputation is still high enough in order to get as much as possible money from his transfer.

Even Munir whom you can get for free on loan in the 1st season would be much better for this tactic then Lukaku.
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I'm in jan and still in all comps so I want to keep
as many players around as poss who would you play up front for Everton Naismith has been sold mcgeady sold and Atsu sent back
 
started a v3 chelsea save, nowhere near fluid, first match home 6-0 to stoke, second match away 6-1 to city, 1 set piece goal in the stoke game, 2 in the city game, and the city goal was a set piece one, so on open play goals 5-0 and 4-0, i know it's chelsea but away to city without fluidity and with costa and cahill out is a great result
 
Ehh... It's hard to play against top clubs such Barcelona, Chelsea, Bayern, Real Madrid not because these clubs use better tactics or something like that but because these clubs have in their attack the players who have 17-20 range for attributes which are very overpowered this year FM...

I'm talking about such attributes as Acceleration, Agility, Pace, Dribbling, Flair, Technique and if you have 3 or more players in your attack who have 17+ for these attributes then from this point you don't need tactic anymore because these players are able to win matches by alone they just dribble the whole opposition team and score goals or make one-on-one passes and defenders are just unable to stop them...

so having 3-4 such players in your attack + good tactic makes you almost invincible :)
 
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TotalFootballFan9 said:
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Since I started using V3 I haven't scored a single corner goal. I started using it against Teramo, and as you can see I'm not scoring that much after that. In fact I found out that I don't have a player at near post meeting the ball, therefore the corners are just either crossed in to the box or passed to the player outside the sixteen yard box. It worked as intended before I suppose, but now it's not "short-corners" anymore. Have you done anything special? My left back are still the corner taker.
 
TotalFootballFan9 said:
Ehh... It's hard to play against top clubs such Barcelona, Chelsea, Bayern, Real Madrid not because these clubs use better tactics or something like that but because these clubs have in their attack the players who have 17-20 range for attributes which are overpowered this year FM...

I'm talking about such attributes as Acceleration, Agility, Pace, Dribbling, Flair, Technique and if you have 3 or more players in your attack who have 17+ for these attributes then from this point you don't need tactic anymore because these players are able to win matches by alone they just dribble the whole opposition team and score goals or make one-on-one passes and defenders are just unable to stop them...
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So, so untrue.
 
HenryLegend14 said:
Since I started using V3 I haven't scored a single corner goal. I started using it against Teramo, and as you can see I'm not scoring that much after that. In fact I found out that I don't have a player at near post meeting the ball, therefore the corners are just either crossed in to the box or passed to the player outside the sixteen yard box. It worked as intended before I suppose, but now it's not "short-corners" anymore. Have you done anything special? My left back are still the corner taker.
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The amount of goals you score from the corners is random and it varies greatly and it depends on many factors such strength of your opponents because if you play vs strong opponents then you have less corners than vs weak opponents and therefore you have less chances to score from the corners. Also it can be just bad luck and huge amount of Clear Cuts after corners were missed/blocked.

Believe me the new corner setup is like 10 times more efficient then previous but it doesn't mean you guaranty will get 10 goals from corner in the match... Btw, from the right side(if you use the normal version) the delivery most of the times should go short to the DR(who stand on the edge of the box) and sometimes it goes to B2B or to the strikers who also stand on the edge of the box and very rarely you can see the delivery to far post.


TotalFootballFan9 said:
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TACTIC HAS BEEN UPDATED TO V3

Heh, this update ends the war between this tactic and 3 strikers formations and Monstrous P&P on my testing stand. It puts Triumph V3 beyond any reach because the only how 3 strikers formations and Monstrous P&P were able to compete with Triumph it's only through more efficient use of "Short Corner" and "Long Flat Throw" PPM exploits(Triumph has much better attacking build-up play and defense then any 3 strikers formation potentially can have) and now Triumph are able to use these exploits with similar efficiency and the efficiency can be increased further when you have a left footed player for DR(the right full back) or if you use the mirror version then a right footed player for DR position.

Please notice TIs/PIs are no less important then set pieces instructions in order "Short Corner" and "Long Flat Throw" PPM exploits works and if you are going to change something then you must understand what are you doing because changes may harm how it works and it stops working. ​
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TotalFootballFan9 said:
Heh... :) just get 4 players for the attack who have 17+ for Acceleration, Agility, Pace, Dribbling, Flair, Technique and upload the default 4-2-3-1 tactic from the game and play the season and you'll see that you are able to win any league... ;)
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Right. Do this test. I doubt it. Usually in all my saves Madrid goes insanely good, signing the very best.
In england its even harder.

TotalFootballFan9 said:
Heh... :) just get 4 players for the attack who have 17+ for Acceleration, Agility, Pace, Dribbling, Flair, Technique and upload the default 4-2-3-1 tactic from the game and play the season and you'll see that you are able to win any league... ;)
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Well let me give you an example.

Some example :

Bought sergi roberto from barca for 4 mios (2nd year with leeds) he has way over decent stats around 140-150 ca out of 150-160 pa probably. He performed ****** for me.

Got this guy alex mowatt that i trained ppm and has probably max 130-140 pa, so he is far, far inferior to the other.

Still when i put him in my lineup its almost a guaranteed win. Liverpool offered 39 mios on him while for sergi roberto i've been able to pull a maximum of 2x mios. Tops.
 
TotalFootballFan9 said:
Believe me the new corner setup is like 10 times more efficient then previous but it doesn't mean you guaranty will get 10 goals from corner in the match...
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Yeah, but my players are weak in quality. The chances they will score from 16 yards is like 0,5 % ;)
 
HenryLegend14 said:
Yeah, but my players are weak in quality. The chances they will score from 16 yards is like 0,5 % ;)
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No, it doesn't mean that they always are supposed to shot from the edge of the box it simple the delivery from the right side goes that area and when after that the scoring opportunity happens is random it could be any spot in the box. There's no other better alternative where to deliver from the right side.

Also if your DR is left footed it further improves efficiency.
 
TotalFootballFan9 said:
No, it doesn't mean that they always are supposed to shot from the edge of the box it simple the delivery from the right side goes that area and when after that the scoring opportunity happens is random it could be any spot in the box. There's no other better alternative where to deliver from the right side.
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Understand, but I find V2 to be more effective. I know TI and PI are the same, but I still play better for some reason, scoring more goals. Maybe random, but still. Gonna stick with that.
 
HenryLegend14 said:
Understand, but I find V2 to be more effective. I know TI and PI are the same, but I still play better for some reason, scoring more goals. Maybe random, but still. Gonna stick with that.
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As you right said TI/PI are the same but V3 is able to exploit "Short Corner" and "Long Flat Throw" PPM about 10 times more efficient and you have 10 time more chance to score from them but in order to clearly see this difference you need to play no less than 100 matches using the same team and the same players and then count goals from corners and goals from "Long Flat Throw" PPM and compare V2 and V3... any sample which is less than 100 matches can't be considered seriously and also if use different teams and different players to test then it's also pointless.
 
Tried it TFF see quite a few chances, respect your testing platform and love your tactics but see it nowhere near as affective as my tweak in terms of corners. But the actual football played is lovely
 
jonnysnipe said:
Tried it TFF see quite a few chances, respect your testing platform and love your tactics but see it nowhere near as affective as my tweak in terms of corners. But the actual football played is lovely
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Jonny, I respect your opinion, mate and I won't try to argue and persuade you... :)

I just want to say that word "nowhere near efficient" can't be used here because the left side has identical and even better efficiency with 3 striker formation(it's possible to create identical configuration for the left side) and this is already about 50% and only the righ side is less efficient but it's less efficient till you have a left footed player for DR position.

So I would say without a left footed player for DR position the "Short Corner" and "Long Flat Throw" PPM exploits have about 75% efficiency in Triumph V3 compare to 3 strikers formations and word "nowhere near efficient" simply can't be used here(theoretically it can be proven :)).

But all other advantages of this tactic such as the much better attacking build-up play and the defense easily outweigh slightly weaker use of "Short Corner" and "Long Flat Throw" PPM exploits. :)

P.S. Btw, many people play without "Long Flat Throw" PPM including me ;)
 
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Wait, the new setup is only for the right corner kicks, right? Just scored from a left corner kick wih my LM and from that side it works like with Monstrous (The winger get the ball short). Just used to only get corners from the right side lately ;)

I'm scoring more goals with V3 now, just won 4-0. It's still an amazing tactic and I will have no problem winning the league with Juve Stabia. Thanks TFF9 :)
 
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