I'm doing a test right now cause the a_ilfandy one discovered some really good tactics but each time it's with different teams in differents leagues.
This test is about testing the top tactics from ilfandy thread (http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...-testing-project-football-manager-2013-a.html)
So i won't test any other tactic, please just don't ask me, i will just test those which are getting great results in his test.
The purpose of this test is : for example with ilfandy test, everybody knows Nezza 4-4-2 is a great tactic, but Raikan 4-3-3 is too and you want to start a new game and you can't choose between those 2 or maybe others...the purpose of this thread is to help you choosing !
That's why the rules of this testing are :
- A league with all the "best" teams (Man U/Real Madrid/Liverpool/Juventus/Dortmund/Milan AC/Barca/Tottenham/Benfica/Chelsea/Man City/Bayern/At. Madrid/Porto/Santos/Arsenal/PSG/Sao Paulo/Corinthians/Inter)
- Playing Tottenham each time (media prediction 17/20)
- I'm using each time the same Teamtalks (ggle19) u can find them in the Qetesh thread opened by crag
- I'm using recommendations given by each tactician (about OI/Training/Shouts)
- Using FMRTE to get the tactic fluid before the first league game (it's fluid but still, the team harmony + team morale are not at their best => the tactics would be even better later then)
- Results on the 13rd league game (don't ask me why 13rd, i guess it's enough to see if a tactic is viable quite fast and consistent and less time consuming)
N.B. : Some tactics need some PPM to be trained or untrained to work very well.
TACTICS TESTED
Akash 4-2-3-1
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...tics-training/114879-akash777s-4-2-3-1-a.html
Training : Team Cohesion/Teamwork
Stats : 6W 5D 2L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Still qualified for Semi Final in Capital One Cup
Goals : 33F 12A
Achievements : 8-2 win vs Chelsea Away
- Lot of goals with teamwork as a match preparation...with attacking movement it might be incredible !
Qetesh 4-2-2-2
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...ning/115119-13-2-3-4-2-2-2-zenith-qetesh.html
Training : Balanced/Attacking Movement
Stats : 10W 2D 1L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Loss vs Porto in Quarter Final in Capital One Cup
Goals : 33F 14A
Achievements : 7-1 win vs Bayern Home
- 10W for 13 games, this tactic is winning a lot
Raikan 4-3-3
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...007s-complete-madness-433-dm-tactic-fm13.html
Training : Balanced/Teamwork (Attacking Movement at Home / Defensive Positioning Away)
Stats : 10W 3D 0L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Still qualified for Semi Final in Capital One Cup
Goals : 44F 9A
Achievements : 9-0 win vs Porto Away
- Bale & Adebayor nominated for FIFA Ballon d'Or and Adebayor is the most lethal striker in the world
- Perfect run in Europe League stages
- Unbeaten in 13 League games, unbeaten in Cup, unbeaten in Europe League...
Screenshots :
Image : stats.png
Image : stats.png
Nezza 4-4-2
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...13794-nezzas-super-442-tactic-re-created.html
Training : Balanced/Attacking Movement (Defensive Positioning vs very big dogs)
Stats : 11W 2D 0L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Still qualified in Capital One Cup
Goals : 37F 3A
Achievements : No goal against in 11 games, Rock solid defense ! Incredible !! This way of perfection has resisted against Man U/Juventus...but the perfection fell 2 times to Hull, in Capital One Cup...lol
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72C3 - HostingPics.net - Hbergement d'images gratuit
Jassar 4-4-2
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...42-recreated-13-2-3-**************jassar.html
Training : Attacking/Attacking Set Pieces vs weaker Defensive/Defensive Set Pieces vs stronger opponents
Stats : 10W 2D 1L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Still qualified in Capital One Cup
Goals : 28F 11A
Achievements : Doesn't work as expected...Got stomped so hard by Man U...and had to go to penalty kicks on 3rd round of Capital Cup vs Porto...where's the problem? Maybe on instructions given by Jassar about Training ? Maybe Balanced + Assistant Manager as Match Training finally work better...
Screenshots : http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=816308tableau.png
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=631039fixtures.png
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=95803232C3.png
Swoosh Masterpiece 4-2-3-1 - Zizunola ft Jassar
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...piece*****-zizunola-ft-jassar-**13-3-0-a.html
Training : Balanced/Attacking Movement (Defensive Positioning vs big dogs) + Tips given by Jassar : Praising and Talking a lot to players + Pressurizing each player of the defense and GK under 7.00 of average rating before the match
Stats : 7W 3D 3L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Still qualified in Capital One Cup
Goals : 31F 11A
Achievements : The best start atm between all tactics tested...Too bad it went unlucky on the match vs Inter (5 shoots on the bar!!)...could have been more than 20 goals in 4 games...Actually the tactic is REALLY strange, problem of consistency...can win 7-0 against a great team and win 4-3 or even loss against a weaker team...
Screenshots : ...
RANKINGS
Best Attack
1 - Raikan 4-3-3 (44) - 3 pts
2 - Nezza 4-4-2 (37) - 2 pts
3 - Akash 4-2-3-1 & Qetesh 4-2-2-2 (33) - 1 pt
4 - Swoosh Masterpiece 4-2-3-1 (31) - 0 pt
4 - Jassar 4-4-2 (28) - 0 pt
Best Defense
1 - Nezza 4-4-2 (3) - 3 pts
2 - Raikan 4-3-3 (9) - 2 pts
3 - Jassar 4-4-2 & Swoosh Masterpiece 4-2-3-1 (11) - 1 pt
4 - Akash 4-2-3-1 (12) - 0 pt
5 - Qetesh 4-2-2-2 (14) - 0 pt
Overall Ranking
1 - Raikan 4-3-3 & Nezza 4-4-2 - 5 pts
2 - Jassar 4-4-2 - 1 pt
Akash 4-2-3-1 - 1 pt
Qetesh 4-2-2-2 - 1 pt
Swoosh Masterpiece 4-2-3-1 - 1 pt
NB : Raikan is the only tactic who manage to beat Man U (3-1)
NEXT TESTS
Every tactic i would like to test, got updated and will be tested in the next round of ilfandy !
This test is about testing the top tactics from ilfandy thread (http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...-testing-project-football-manager-2013-a.html)
So i won't test any other tactic, please just don't ask me, i will just test those which are getting great results in his test.
The purpose of this test is : for example with ilfandy test, everybody knows Nezza 4-4-2 is a great tactic, but Raikan 4-3-3 is too and you want to start a new game and you can't choose between those 2 or maybe others...the purpose of this thread is to help you choosing !
That's why the rules of this testing are :
- A league with all the "best" teams (Man U/Real Madrid/Liverpool/Juventus/Dortmund/Milan AC/Barca/Tottenham/Benfica/Chelsea/Man City/Bayern/At. Madrid/Porto/Santos/Arsenal/PSG/Sao Paulo/Corinthians/Inter)
- Playing Tottenham each time (media prediction 17/20)
- I'm using each time the same Teamtalks (ggle19) u can find them in the Qetesh thread opened by crag
- I'm using recommendations given by each tactician (about OI/Training/Shouts)
- Using FMRTE to get the tactic fluid before the first league game (it's fluid but still, the team harmony + team morale are not at their best => the tactics would be even better later then)
- Results on the 13rd league game (don't ask me why 13rd, i guess it's enough to see if a tactic is viable quite fast and consistent and less time consuming)
N.B. : Some tactics need some PPM to be trained or untrained to work very well.
TACTICS TESTED
Akash 4-2-3-1
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...tics-training/114879-akash777s-4-2-3-1-a.html
Training : Team Cohesion/Teamwork
Stats : 6W 5D 2L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Still qualified for Semi Final in Capital One Cup
Goals : 33F 12A
Achievements : 8-2 win vs Chelsea Away
- Lot of goals with teamwork as a match preparation...with attacking movement it might be incredible !
Qetesh 4-2-2-2
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...ning/115119-13-2-3-4-2-2-2-zenith-qetesh.html
Training : Balanced/Attacking Movement
Stats : 10W 2D 1L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Loss vs Porto in Quarter Final in Capital One Cup
Goals : 33F 14A
Achievements : 7-1 win vs Bayern Home
- 10W for 13 games, this tactic is winning a lot
Raikan 4-3-3
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...007s-complete-madness-433-dm-tactic-fm13.html
Training : Balanced/Teamwork (Attacking Movement at Home / Defensive Positioning Away)
Stats : 10W 3D 0L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Still qualified for Semi Final in Capital One Cup
Goals : 44F 9A
Achievements : 9-0 win vs Porto Away
- Bale & Adebayor nominated for FIFA Ballon d'Or and Adebayor is the most lethal striker in the world
- Perfect run in Europe League stages
- Unbeaten in 13 League games, unbeaten in Cup, unbeaten in Europe League...
Screenshots :
Image : stats.png
Image : stats.png
Nezza 4-4-2
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...13794-nezzas-super-442-tactic-re-created.html
Training : Balanced/Attacking Movement (Defensive Positioning vs very big dogs)
Stats : 11W 2D 0L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Still qualified in Capital One Cup
Goals : 37F 3A
Achievements : No goal against in 11 games, Rock solid defense ! Incredible !! This way of perfection has resisted against Man U/Juventus...but the perfection fell 2 times to Hull, in Capital One Cup...lol
Screenshots : tableau - HostingPics.net - Hbergement d'images gratuit
fixtures - HostingPics.net - Hbergement d'images gratuit
72C3 - HostingPics.net - Hbergement d'images gratuit
Jassar 4-4-2
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...42-recreated-13-2-3-**************jassar.html
Training : Attacking/Attacking Set Pieces vs weaker Defensive/Defensive Set Pieces vs stronger opponents
Stats : 10W 2D 1L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Still qualified in Capital One Cup
Goals : 28F 11A
Achievements : Doesn't work as expected...Got stomped so hard by Man U...and had to go to penalty kicks on 3rd round of Capital Cup vs Porto...where's the problem? Maybe on instructions given by Jassar about Training ? Maybe Balanced + Assistant Manager as Match Training finally work better...
Screenshots : http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=816308tableau.png
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=631039fixtures.png
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=95803232C3.png
Swoosh Masterpiece 4-2-3-1 - Zizunola ft Jassar
Lien : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...piece*****-zizunola-ft-jassar-**13-3-0-a.html
Training : Balanced/Attacking Movement (Defensive Positioning vs big dogs) + Tips given by Jassar : Praising and Talking a lot to players + Pressurizing each player of the defense and GK under 7.00 of average rating before the match
Stats : 7W 3D 3L
- 1st in Europa League Group
- Still qualified in Capital One Cup
Goals : 31F 11A
Achievements : The best start atm between all tactics tested...Too bad it went unlucky on the match vs Inter (5 shoots on the bar!!)...could have been more than 20 goals in 4 games...Actually the tactic is REALLY strange, problem of consistency...can win 7-0 against a great team and win 4-3 or even loss against a weaker team...
Screenshots : ...
RANKINGS
Best Attack
1 - Raikan 4-3-3 (44) - 3 pts
2 - Nezza 4-4-2 (37) - 2 pts
3 - Akash 4-2-3-1 & Qetesh 4-2-2-2 (33) - 1 pt
4 - Swoosh Masterpiece 4-2-3-1 (31) - 0 pt
4 - Jassar 4-4-2 (28) - 0 pt
Best Defense
1 - Nezza 4-4-2 (3) - 3 pts
2 - Raikan 4-3-3 (9) - 2 pts
3 - Jassar 4-4-2 & Swoosh Masterpiece 4-2-3-1 (11) - 1 pt
4 - Akash 4-2-3-1 (12) - 0 pt
5 - Qetesh 4-2-2-2 (14) - 0 pt
Overall Ranking
1 - Raikan 4-3-3 & Nezza 4-4-2 - 5 pts
2 - Jassar 4-4-2 - 1 pt
Akash 4-2-3-1 - 1 pt
Qetesh 4-2-2-2 - 1 pt
Swoosh Masterpiece 4-2-3-1 - 1 pt
NB : Raikan is the only tactic who manage to beat Man U (3-1)
NEXT TESTS
Every tactic i would like to test, got updated and will be tested in the next round of ilfandy !
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