i never said al of the problems are his fault, but he is failing in his own sphere. what is the point of signing a top class central mid, then playing him on the wing? what is the point of lining up a flat 4-4-2 without any wingers? roy cant help the things off the pitch and it must he hard for him, but in his own tactical sphere he must do better
i cant remember the last time SAF did that, and im assuming he did it on tactical basis for a partcular game, and not as running role as roy as done. you talk about balance, but liverpool's side is much more balanced towards a 4-2-3-1 than it is a 4-4-2. do i think he should be scaked? of course not, he is dealing with a lot and it will take time, but like i said he must do better in his part, merieles was so much better when he came into the middle against blackpool. the 4-4-2 exposes their weaknesses rather than covers themIn All fairness he has got limited squad to work with, Whilst he got great players there is a real in balance to Liverpool's squad. There is many good players, but not much variation in the side. You say playing a CM on the Wings, But Fergie does it plenty of times with Fletcher to some time great effect, so i think playing an box to box on the wing is not totally un heard off or stupid.
So Let me Get this right. Roy is expected to manage the players and forget all the off field problems and money mess? But When Rafa had a poor Year last year, it was because he was not allowed to strengthen the squad or had to get rid of people he didnt want to.
Roy Probably wanted to keep Aquallini, Yossi and Mascherano. But he was forced to sell them and Buy Less players. Yours and so Many others defence of Rafa's was the conditions he had to work in, Now your all be very hypocritical to slam Roy, when he is in the same situation.
Also, Liverpool will finish top 8 this year. You've had a bad start but an Hard one. the only really shocking result is the Blackpool one, and they happen some times. Just give the ******* man a chance.
In All fairness he has got limited squad to work with, Whilst he got great players there is a real in balance to Liverpool's squad. There is many good players, but not much variation in the side. You say playing a CM on the Wings, But Fergie does it plenty of times with Fletcher to some time great effect, so i think playing an box to box on the wing is not totally un heard off or stupid.
i cant remember the last time SAF did that, and im assuming he did it on tactical basis for a partcular game, and not as running role as roy as done. you talk about balance, but liverpool's side is much more balanced towards a 4-2-3-1 than it is a 4-4-2. do i think he should be scaked? of course not, he is dealing with a lot and it will take time, but like i said he must do better in his part, merieles was so much better when he came into the middle against blackpool. the 4-4-2 exposes their weaknesses rather than covers them
No. I never defended Rafa last year by pointing towards the off-field problems.
The conditions that Rafa had to work in was that he wouldn't get 100% of the transfer fees Liverpool received. Roy received them and has signed Poulsen, Konchesky, Jones (all a ******* joke) and Meireles who is actually a decent player.
How do you know that? I honestly would take a top 10 finish right now, never mind top 8. Is losing to Northampton not shocking? It isn't so much the results anyway, it is more the performances and the football we're playing at the moment. Even under Rafa last season we played okay football, now its just horrible to watch. He has his chance to prove himself in the derby, if we lose that, I for one am turning my back on Roy.
Even under Rafa last season we played okay football, now its just horrible to watch. He has his chance to prove himself in the derby, if we lose that, I for one am turning my back on Roy.
isnt thats hargreaves your think of a few years back? but theres a big difference between filling as cover, and seemingly deploying someone on a consistent term, especially when that side isnt suited to that formation, in factthe lack of balance you talk about is exacerbated by playing 4-4-2 instead of 4-2-3-1. but i definitely agree that no way should people be calling for his head, i just think he's been a little disappointing tactically thats allFletcher Used to do it all the time a few years back, and at the start of last season when we had injury problems, in the same way he has played right back and Centre Back for us
I'm sorry, the football we played under Rafa last season was as bad as this. You can't pluck one excuse for one manager and not use it for another. Come on man, support the current manager and not Rafa for crying out loud.
isnt thats hargreaves your think of a few years back? but theres a big difference between filling as cover, and seemingly deploying someone on a consistent term, especially when that side isnt suited to that formation, in factthe lack of balance you talk about is exacerbated by playing 4-4-2 instead of 4-2-3-1. but i definitely agree that no way should people be calling for his head, i just think he's been a little disappointing tactically thats all
Not sure what Meireles would give us on the wings though, it certainly doesn't add balance. Roy is just taking away 70% of Meireles' effectiveness by playing him well out of position. Never seen Fletcher play a full game on the wing btw :S[/QUOTE]Fletcher Used to do it all the time a few years back, and at the start of last season when we had injury problems, in the same way he has played right back and Centre Back for us.
Okay, How much has roy spent. Poulsen 5-6million, Konchesky( 3million ish) Jones( 2million) and Meireles( 14million) so that is 25million Pounds, Didnt he get around that for mascherano? Yossi was another 5-7million. He has also Sold other player Reira was 3-4million. So he has brought in more then he sold, and i am guessing someone like Poulsen is on less then Mascherano. You always blamed the Yanks for the problems and never rafa, you hypocritical man.
Because it is a poor start, it happens, your all panicking because your just scared. Time we cure the problems.
I never blamed the Yanks for on-field problems. That is down to the manager and the players, they never cut it last season or this season.
I'm sorry, the football we played under Rafa last season was as bad as this. You can't pluck one excuse for one manager and not use it for another. Come on man, support the current manager and not Rafa for crying out loud.
Not sure what Meireles would give us on the wings though, it certainly doesn't add balance. Roy is just taking away 70% of Meireles' effectiveness by playing him well out of position. Never seen Fletcher play a full game on the wing btw :S