Jonathan Wilson: Uneasy feeling surrounds Chelsea

Again not once did i use the word "CRISIS" at Utd.

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It seems like i have said this nearly every week and i keep getting slamed for it. Their is a obvious problem that runs deeper at the club at the moment and if you don't agree then you are delueded. They seem to have no confidence at the moment and Fergie needs to get this right quick other wise dare i say it Utd might end up finishing 4th or even lower. Yes ok people say Utd play better towards the end of the season but they haven't looked this poor in games before, this is new and needs fixing from a Utd fans point of view asap.


You didn't use the word "Crisis", but what you said was as good as that. We wont finish in the top 4? Really..?

Well Chelsea are in bigger trouble now. Lost 3 in last 4.
 
What the same way people excluding Utd fans were saying that there was somthing wrong behind the scenes at Utd??? Unless you work for Chelsea then surely im going to believe what i see/hear from people who i know i can trust and who haven't been wrong in the past. To be honest i want you and everyone to think that there is "something wrong" at Chelsea because its a dangerous game to think like that.

If Ancelotti is one thing it is truthfull, in every interview before of even after games if we wearn't good enough he says it, if we recieve a red card he dosen't say well i never saw the tackle he says the refs do a tough job. When everyone last December said Chelsea will have to buy players in January because they will drop points with Drogba, Essien etc going to the African Cup of Nations he said we don't need to buy and i definatly wont oh and what happend???? He came out Tuesday and said i have no idea were these storys came from yes i had a phone call fromt he LMA to ask what was going on but i was at home all night.

i really couldn't care less if you was Roman's bit on the side, if something is wrong behind the scenes between management staff, players, directors then the news doesn't always get made public, oh and before you say "but i no someone who works behind the scenes" its bollocks, i worked for southend united (can't really compare i know) but when the talks off trouble behind the scenes, i along with the rest of the staff was asked to keep it private. your going to stick up for your club, its only natural but lets be honest, if United for example lost 3 prem games in a row, you'd be jumping with joy posting negative bollocks all over the forum. deal with it.
 
You didn't use the word "Crisis", but what you said was as good as that. We wont finish in the top 4? Really..?

Well Chelsea are in bigger trouble now. Lost 3 in last 4.

That means nothing??? I said Fergie better get it right and he did sort it out in the end.

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i really couldn't care less if you was Roman's bit on the side, if something is wrong behind the scenes between management staff, players, directors then the news doesn't always get made public, oh and before you say "but i no someone who works behind the scenes" its bollocks, i worked for southend united (can't really compare i know) but when the talks off trouble behind the scenes, i along with the rest of the staff was asked to keep it private. your going to stick up for your club, its only natural but lets be honest, if United for example lost 3 prem games in a row, you'd be jumping with joy posting negative bollocks all over the forum. deal with it.

Of corse i would be jumping with joy, but i wouldn't be saying of this means somthing it wrong behind the scenes, **** Fergie wants to leave etc etc. We have just been playing poor simple as that, every club has a blip and ours could well be now insted of the usual December blip. More is just made of it because of the Wilkins thing, way before Wilkins got the boot we were playing poor and i had a feeling a defeat of the Sunderland kind was coming although i admit i didn't think it would be to Sunderland or at home for that matter.
 
That means nothing??? I said Fergie better get it right and he did sort it out in the end.

Their is a obvious problem that runs deeper at the club at the moment and if you don't agree then you are delueded.

We didnt know what was that problem.

Again same can be said to Chelsea also. Change United to Chelsea, then in the second quote you will get the asnwer.
 
We didnt know what was that problem.

Again same can be said to Chelsea also. Change United to Chelsea, then in the second quote you will get the asnwer.

Utd's problem was the Rooney sage that has rumbled on since August, and in the end Fergie fixed the problem and won like always. But when Utd do have their bad spells that is when all the storys about the owners come out more regualry. Its natural when a club goes through a tough time on the pitch the media/fans try to scratch the surface and start blaming other factors around the club but that dosen't mean their is a problem off the field.
 
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Of corse i would be jumping with joy, but i wouldn't be saying of this means somthing it wrong behind the scenes, **** Fergie wants to leave etc etc. We have just been playing poor simple as that, every club has a blip and ours could well be now insted of the usual December blip. More is just made of it because of the Wilkins thing, way before Wilkins got the boot we were playing poor and i had a feeling a defeat of the Sunderland kind was coming although i admit i didn't think it would be to Sunderland or at home for that matter.

There wouldn't be rumours about Fergie leaving because they'd be no need for it. These rumours don't suddenly appear from thin air, and that is why people suspect all is not well behind the scenes. You said there were deeper problems at United when there wasn't stirrings like these, but all must be well at Chelsea, yup.
 
There wouldn't be rumours about Fergie leaving because they'd be no need for it. These rumours don't suddenly appear from thin air, and that is why people suspect all is not well behind the scenes. You said there were deeper problems at United when there wasn't stirrings like these, but all must be well at Chelsea, yup.

Things wearn't all well at Utd though were they?? The Rooney saga maybe?? These started through twitter rumours simple as that, nothing concrete at all.
 
Things wearn't all well at Utd though were they?? The Rooney saga maybe?? These started through twitter rumours simple as that, nothing concrete at all.

thats exactly the point, your quick to say there are problems behind the scenes at United which everyone can see but you can't/won't accept that there are problems at your club.
 
thats exactly the point, your quick to say there are problems behind the scenes at United which everyone can see but you can't/won't accept that there are problems at your club.

The problems are on the pitch, even Malouda has said teams don't fear us anymore. Look its simple you believe what you think and i'l believe what i think, enough said.
 
Things wearn't all well at Utd though were they?? The Rooney saga maybe?? These started through twitter rumours simple as that, nothing concrete at all.

The Rooney story started on Twitter and it turned out to be true. Wait, where are the Chelsea rumours from?
 
The problems are on the pitch, even Malouda has said teams don't fear us anymore. Look its simple you believe what you think and i'l believe what i think, enough said.

players are hardly going to come out and tell the press "yeah Wilko ****** Roman's misses whilst Carlo recorded and then sold it to John Terry who injuried himself whilst playing with his ***"

players like i have stated before are told not to tell the press about problems and thats what the Chelsea players are sticking too.
 
Again not once did i use the word "CRISIS" at Utd.

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I have noted the reasons why Bruma didn't play against Sunderland more than once. And lets not forget the players we are missing i.e Lampard, Terry, Essien and a fit Drogba are better then the players you mentioned for other clubs. The only way these young lads are going to get better is by being on the fringes of the first team i.e on the bench or getting some minutes etc. Like i also said its their first season in the PL and i totally disagree that McEachran is the only one that looks up for it, Bruma when he has played has made no mistakes and the same goes for Van Aanholt.

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So what i got a different opinion?? deal with it.

Wow really, You implied crisis many times and if i could be arsed i would find so many links to it, but everyone knows you rambles about utd, so there no point.

I challenge your next statement, we have rooney, Carrick, Hargeaves, ferdinand, Evra and Valencia out at the same time, now try to match players of that stature being out. Our squad dealt with it, yours didnt/ hasnt. get over it and accept, your squad isnt balanced, hence why when Drogbas out all you have is Anelka and Sturridge.

Things wearn't all well at Utd though were they?? The Rooney saga maybe?? These started through twitter rumours simple as that, nothing concrete at all.

The Rooney saga, behave son. it effected nothing of utds form, we always have early season stutters, the fact when the rooney thing came public we got better, when it was at its highest medai coverage, means nothing to you. There is no smoke without Fire, If carlo lasts the season i be shocked.

lol this is mainly FM base v CJACKO 11

XD

We can only hope.
 
Its really funny how people can't accept that some people may have a different opinion to them. Just becuase 10 of you agree about somthing and only 1 person dis-agrees unless somthing comes of it then niether are right. The difference is i can accpet you may have a different view than me but i don't go throwing a hissy fit over it.
 
Its really funny how people can't accept that some people may have a different opinion to them. Just becuase 10 of you agree about somthing and only 1 person dis-agrees unless somthing comes of it then niether are right. The difference is i can accpet you may have a different view than me but i don't go throwing a hissy fit over it.

I accept your opinion.

It's just wrong, that's all. ;)
 
I accept your opinion.

It's just wrong, that's all. ;)

Well thats the point, we will see wont we. If im wrong i will hold my hands up simple as that.

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or Logic vs Irrationality

When somthing comes out about Utd their fans back the club and try and look for positives. The last year or so and even negatives about Rafa Liverpool fans defend him and look at the positives and this is no different.
 
Well thats the point, we will see wont we. If im wrong i will hold my hands up simple as that.

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When somthing comes out about Utd their fans back the club and try and look for positives. The last year or so and even negatives about Rafa Liverpool fans defend him and look at the positives and this is no different.

Well thats kind of what i meant Logic IE the people who don't support Chelsea or any club in the prem like me, and the ones whos blind irrationality hides the truth. Love is blind.
 
Agreed that their squad may be slightly unbalanced, but I think a little too much is being made of some simple bad form. Like CJACKO11 said, Chelsea looked unconvincing before Wilkins had left. People are seeing it as

Wilkins has gone -----> Chelsea arent playing well

Could well just be a coincidence, putting 2 and 2 together to make 5.

The next few games are crucial, guarenteed that if Chelsea win the next 5, everyone will have forgotten about this, it's just the way it goes.
 
Agreed that their squad may be slightly unbalanced, but I think a little too much is being made of some simple bad form. Like CJACKO11 said, Chelsea looked unconvincing before Wilkins had left. People are seeing it as

Wilkins has gone -----> Chelsea arent playing well

Could well just be a coincidence, putting 2 and 2 together to make 5.

The next few games are crucial, guarenteed that if Chelsea win the next 5, everyone will have forgotten about this, it's just the way it goes.
partly agree, but i think what wilson was getting as was all the issues combining together, such as ancellotti opening saying he was not happy etc. when you combine that with the poor form, wilkins weird departure, and the loss of key players, you can see why that conclusion is fairly reached
 
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