Leeds United vs Nottingham Forest 02/04/2011

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Kick off: 12:45
Venue: Elland Road, Leeds
Channel: BBC 1

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Due to there being no match day thread for this game and the fact it's on TV and it's a huge game in the championship promotion race I thought I would make a thread for it.

Team News
Leeds: Schmeichel, Lichaj, O'Brien, Bromby, McCartney, Johnson, Howson, Snodgrass, Bannan, Gradel, Becchio. Subs: Higgs, Naylor, Kilkenny, Livermore, Watt, Somma, McCormack.

Forest: Camp, Lynch, Morgan, Chambers, Gunter, Cohen , Anderson , Majewski, McGugan, Boyd, Tudgay. Subs: Adebola, Earnshaw, Tyson, Darlow, Bennett, McCleary, McGoldrick.

Match Preview
It is said that Brian Clough reserved a special place in his heart - albeit not a compassionate one - for this fixture. The man reviled in Leeds but revered in Nottingham inextricably links these two clubs and continues to fuel the antipathy between them.

The fact that United and Forest are also promotion rivals ensures that this match should be played amid a derby atmosphere, despite the 74 miles that separate them.
Leeds fans still sing anti-Clough songs, embittered by his notorious 44-day reign in 1974 before he turned Forest into domestic and European champions. There is no love lost on the pitch or in the dugout, either. The two clubs were charged by the FA with failing to control their players following a mass brawl during this season's reverse fixture in August. After the game, Forest manager Billy Davies and his Leeds counterpart Simon Grayson accused each other's players of deliberately stamping on opponents.
Both sides are clinging on to a play-off spot after struggling for form of late. Leeds were blamed by Grayson for lacking desire following the defeat at Sheffield United, while Forest are winless in seven matches and have dropped out of the automatic promotion places. It is also 15 years since Forest beat Leeds, and they have not defeated Yorkshire opposition this season.

Leeds form
• They are on a 12-match unbeaten streak at Elland Road (W6, D6).
• A point for Leeds would be their 200th under manager Simon Grayson.
• They have failed to score in their last two games but are the division's leading scorers, with 69 goals.
• United have gained 22 points from losing positions this season, second only to Burnley (24).

Forest Form
• Forest have only earned one win and eight points from their last 10 matches, having previously taken 25 points out of 27.
• They are winless in all 10 league and cup matches against Yorkshire opposition this season (D6, L4).
• Only league leaders QPR have conceded fewer goals than Forest's 35.
• However, they are the lowest scorers in the top nine.
• The East Midlands side are the joint draw specialists of the Championship, with Reading. Each have finished level 15 times.

My personal view
This game is a huge game in the closing stages of the Championship promotion race. QPR (unless they get a points deduction) are all but up in first place. However 2nd is still up for grabs and all 4 play off places are too. Forest look set to take 2nd by storm a few weeks ago but have faltered massively recently. Leeds looked to be out of it but then came close again but recently have also dropped away. This really is a game neither side can afford to lose. Personally I think it will be a very close and exciting game but I am going to have to go for 3-1 to the mighty whites.
 
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Nottingham Forest 1-1 Leeds United (Earnshaw - Bannan)
 
half time score Leeds 0-0 Forest

Very very physical game. IMO it was a red card, despite what the commentators said. Cohen was 2 foot off the ground, diving into the challenge with studs showing. Has to be a red card. Forest have been quite dirty tbh, are they usually like this or is it just because of the occaision? Tudgay and Boyd both deserved their yellow cards. Have to say Im very disappointed with the atmosphere. It's meant to be a packed Elland Road but there have been times where it's been silent and all you can hear is the players shouting. Hopefully that improves 2nd half. Leeds have been very poor with Forest very much on top, even after the red card. We usually improve in the 2nd half so hopefully we do.
 
definite red card, two footed off the ground studs showing and not in control at all, reckless and deserved
 
I don't usually say this, but I feel sorry for Forest.

Wasn't a sending off, great tackle from Cohen! And, McCleary's goal was quality!
 
FT Leeds 4-1 Forest
GET IN! Fantastic result. First half we easily could have been 2-0 down but we rode our luck a bit and some poor forest finishing let them down. 2nd half, as usual, we came out with real intent. Howson let by captains example with a good game and goal (thanks to Snodgrass' fantastic ball). Camp seemed to claim he was fouled for our 2nd goal but replays showed he just fell over. Nice reaction from Becchio. Forest goal was pure quality and really did stun me. Shouldn't have been allowed to get in that position but an unbelievable finish into the top corner. Gradel had a great finish for his goal, almost surrounded by 3 players but was able to take the ball down and hit it into the bottom corner. Livermore looked good from what little we saw, did very well in the build up for the 4th goal with a great turn and shot. Then at the end Forest player (can't remember who) dived to try and get a penalty. Thought Forest were very dirty today but I don't know if they are usually like that, are they or did the occasion cause them to be like that? Overall a fantastic result for us which could give us a chance of gaining 2nd, although we will probably need to beat Norwich. Will be interesting to see how Forest pick themselves up after this. But great result and a great 3 points MOT!!
 
We were unlucky and ***** today, thought Cohen got the ball with his challenge but of course I'm going to say that as I am indeed a Forest fan. The speed of his challenge and the **** acting by the Leeds player got him sent, did he get an oscar for that performance btw?

We were unlucky - because Tudgay missed an open net,could have changed the game and cos Cohen got sent for something debatable. Could have gone either way.

Though I thought we were **** because our defence didnt seem to know what to do today,majorly disappointed with Wes Morgan inparticular. He hesitated during the first goal, he had to put his foot through that ball. He didn't and it cost us. After that we just seemed to give up, we have lost our heads and have gone majorly downhill now, we need a win to get some confidence back in the side. We have a young team and getting thrashed 4-1 is not what we needed.

Thought McCleary took his goal well, brilliant finish there. We need some moments of magic like that to get our season back on track. Also at the end I didn't really think Gunter dived at first but then it seemed to be that way. We aren't a dirty side and I don't think we played dirty today at all, people will say that cos of the apparent dive at the end (what are you gonna see a footballer do when hes tackled from behind in the box) and Cohens Stuart Pearce esque slide tackle.

Overall - very disappointed. Didn't want to lose 4-1 - we were on top in the first half even without Cohen and it just seemed to get away from us. Hope we can pick it back up.
 
We were unlucky and ***** today, thought Cohen got the ball with his challenge but of course I'm going to say that as I am indeed a Forest fan. The speed of his challenge and the **** acting by the Leeds player got him sent, did he get an oscar for that performance btw?

We were unlucky - because Tudgay missed an open net,could have changed the game and cos Cohen got sent for something debatable. Could have gone either way.

Though I thought we were **** because our defence didnt seem to know what to do today,majorly disappointed with Wes Morgan inparticular. He hesitated during the first goal, he had to put his foot through that ball. He didn't and it cost us. After that we just seemed to give up, we have lost our heads and have gone majorly downhill now, we need a win to get some confidence back in the side. We have a young team and getting thrashed 4-1 is not what we needed.

Thought McCleary took his goal well, brilliant finish there. We need some moments of magic like that to get our season back on track. Also at the end I didn't really think Gunter dived at first but then it seemed to be that way. We aren't a dirty side and I don't think we played dirty today at all, people will say that cos of the apparent dive at the end (what are you gonna see a footballer do when hes tackled from behind in the box) and Cohens Stuart Pearce esque slide tackle.

Overall - very disappointed. Didn't want to lose 4-1 - we were on top in the first half even without Cohen and it just seemed to get away from us. Hope we can pick it back up.

Nice to see a Forest fans view on the game. I didn't actually think you were ***** today, you completely bossed the 1st half but that was also to do with how bad we were. Obviously the red card did change the game and unsurprisingly I will disagree with you and say it was a red. Heard that Davies is appealing the red card so will be interesting to hear if does get rescinded. Leeds player reaction from the challenge may have been shock more than anything but I did think it was a red card challenge. Breathed a huge sigh of relief when Tudgay missed his chance, very good defending from Bromby to block it and then stop Boyd as well. For the first goal you have to admit it was a brilliant ball from Snodgrass. I didn't really pay attention to the Forest defence so will have to take your word for it that Morgan could have prevented it. Your heads did seem to drop after that goal too. McClearly's goal was fantastic, a real top quality effort. How was that his only 2nd of the season!? I also thought at first Gunter was fouled as Gradel was sliding in from behind recklessly but replays did show Gunter dived. I wouldn't say you were dirty from just those 2 challenges but from other events as well such as Morgan blocking off Morgan with his shoulder to his face and right at the start of the match your RB (Gunter I think) being all over Gradel. Honest opinion do you still think you'll make the play offs?
 
Honestly, after this run? I think we can sneak 6th but realistically I think we've blown it.
 
I would like forrest to go up along with QPR and Norwich
 
Honestly, after this run? I think we can sneak 6th but realistically I think we've blown it.
If you can get out of this run then you definelty still have a chance but Reading, Burnley and Watford are all right there battling for 6th as well.

I would like forrest to go up along with QPR and Leeds
That's better ;)
 
Leeds have still got to come to Pride Park, we'll knock um' down a peg or two ;)
 
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