Liga BBVA 2010-2011 Thread.

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Very good thing that Barca dropped points! Sevilla could have won. Still think barca will win the league.

Really gutted Messi didn't get a bad injury from the challenge by the keeper.

Now theres players I hate, but I wouldnt really wish a serious injury on them, unless that seriously injured another player. But to wish a thing on the worlds greatest player and harm his chances of being the best player of all time is a bit much dont you think?
 
I reckon that Real and barcelona could keep winning until el clasico and then either real win and its down to 2 points and game on or barca win and its game over. i hope villarreal get in champions league its always nice to see such a team play in europe as they are entertaining unlike man utd chelsea and tottenham who have bored me so far in europe apart from the 4-3 inter milan game
 
Barcelona 2-1 Getafe - Alves, Bojan scorers for Barcelona, not sure who scored for Getafe but it was in 88th minute.

Real Madrid currently lead 1-0 away from home in the Madrid derby vs Atletico, Karim Benzema scoring (again!)

Great game too...
 
2-0 Real Madrid.. Ozil.

Ronaldo should have had a penalty seconds before, ball ran through to Marcelo on the far side who beat his man, pulled it back to Ozil who side footed it into the top corner.

Real are getting battered, but still somehow have a 2-0 lead.
 
Fergie is the best manager in the world, end of discussion, although Wenger is great at building a cheap and fairly successful team. Guardiola is not a bad manager, he is just not that good as Barca were already very good and it was hard to make them better. Mourinho is a good manager but he spends to much for my liking, and doesn't use much young, unlike Wenger/Guardiola.
 
Mourinho - Globally the best.

He hasn't built teams? He built Leiria with some brazillians he got in a low budget, and later took some to Porto, like Derlei, he bought Ferreira from Setubal, Deco was a unknown free agent, Nuno Valente and Derlei were from Leiria, and he turned Carvalho from 4th line central defender to one of the best in the world, went on the win UEFA and Champions league with Porto, straight. While winning almost everything in Portugal! He only didn't win 1 cup, Benfica beat Porto.

Went to Chelsea, had the money, picked the players, champion, champion. Went to Inter, champion, champion, trebble. And he's only 48 or something, the next years will show that without a doubt, he is THE BEST.
 
Fergie is the best manager in the world, end of discussion, although Wenger is great at building a cheap and fairly successful team. Guardiola is not a bad manager, he is just not that good as Barca were already very good and it was hard to make them better. Mourinho is a good manager but he spends to much for my liking, and doesn't use much young, unlike Wenger/Guardiola.

Have to disagree with you. He changed Barcelona, why do you think Rijkaard was sacked? First season Pep one the treble, first Spanish man ever to do that.

Pep sold superstar names like Ronaldinho and Deco and brought through Pedro (Who Barca were going to release before Pep took over) and Busquets. Don't think he is the best in the world but he certainly is class.
 
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Im going to put my neck on the line and say i believe Ozil will one day be the best player in the world.

Unfortunately for him, his age dictates that he will always stay behind Messi..... When Leo is past his prime, Mesut will be as well....

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Mourinho is a good manager but he spends to much for my liking, and doesn't use much young, unlike Wenger/Guardiola.

Sorry mate... umm.... Guardiola isn't in charge of transfers, so he spends nothing.

Mourinho isn't really in charge of transfers anymore either.

Spain isn't the same as England. They don't actually manage the clubs, they just coach them. All of the behind-the-scenes stuff like transfers, contracts etc. are handled by directors.
 
Sorry mate... umm.... Guardiola isn't in charge of transfers, so he spends nothing.

Mourinho isn't really in charge of transfers anymore either.

Spain isn't the same as England. They don't actually manage the clubs, they just coach them. All of the behind-the-scenes stuff like transfers, contracts etc. are handled by directors.

Bullshit. The president of Barcelona admitted that Pep wanted Ibra. Do you think they bought him there just for fun?

Why do you think...for example...Carvalho is playing for madrid now? BECAUSE MOURINHO WANTED HIM! Same goes for Ozil and Khedira.
 
Bullshit. The president of Barcelona admitted that Pep wanted Ibra. Do you think they bought him there just for fun?

Why do you think...for example...Carvalho is playing for madrid now? BECAUSE MOURINHO WANTED HIM! Same goes for Ozil and Khedira.
But the coach can say whatever he wants, if the directors of the club don't do it the coach won't get the player.
Managers in England buy the players, all that coaches in Spain can do is request them to the club.

So actually you are the one talking bullshit.
 
But the coach can say whatever he wants, if the directors of the club don't do it the coach won't get the player.
Managers in England buy the players, all that coaches in Spain can do is request them to the club.

So actually you are the one talking bullshit.

Even in England Manager have to request, not that they get blank chequebook.
I'm sure Jose never wanted Sheva but Roman wanted so he was bought.

Jose wanted Lampard and Drogba, instead Inter bought Sneijder and Milito who were so instrumental in winning treble.

In all the leagues it happens. but i can understand what you meant there. It happes so much in Madrid. The president just buys for the heck of it and the manager has to somehow play them. MP was the best example for this. He had no balance in the squad.

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Have to disagree with you. He changed Barcelona, why do you think Rijkaard was sacked? First season Pep one the treble, first Spanish man ever to do that.

Pep sold superstar names like Ronaldinho and Deco and brought through Pedro (Who Barca were going to release before Pep took over) and Busquets. Don't think he is the best in the world but he certainly is class.

But all the hard work was done by Rijkaard. He brought the likes of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Eto'o. I'm not saying he was the only reason the player are so brilliant, but he had so much influence and brought the team together. Barca were no going nowhere before Rijkaard took over, then he changed it completely. Now all the hard work was done, you can see Pep enjoying the vision of Rijkaard.
 
But the coach can say whatever he wants, if the directors of the club don't do it the coach won't get the player.
Managers in England buy the players, all that coaches in Spain can do is request them to the club.

So actually you are the one talking bullshit.

Just like Sunilvk7 said. It's nothing different to any other league. The coach can say who he wants...but the final word is always the owners and club directors. You say it's different in Spain and England..no it isn't.

And im pretty sure too that Mourinho didin't want Sheva.

So actually...you are the one who is talking bullshit :D
 
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my soft spot is for Almeria and Atheltico Bilbo
Good teams :)

This.

The reasons are for Pablo Piatti and the Basque-only transfer policy. Also, some players such as Fernando Llorente, Iker Muniain and Javi Martinez.
 
Just like Sunilvk7 said. It's nothing different to any other league. The coach can say who he wants...but the final word is always the owners and club directors. You say it's different in Spain and England..no it isn't.

And im pretty sure too that Mourinho didin't want Sheva.

So actually...you are the one who is talking bullshit :D

Did I actually say Pep didn't want Ibra? No.
Did I say that Pep can't tell the directors who he wants? No.
Pep wanted Eto'o out, Ibra in. The amount of money involved in that was none of his business. He isn't the one who splashed the cash on Ibra, nor is he the one who let Toure go (though he did underappreciate him)

It's actually great to read all these Madridistas sticking the boot into Pep and telling everybody how much better Mourinho is, when he can't get past Barca in the league.... Also (and there's no arguing against this, it's a simple fact based on odds from bookies) Barca are favourites to win all three competitions.

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my soft spot is for Almeria and Atheltico Bilbo
Good teams :)

Almeria :( What is it you like so much about them out of curiosity? (Holding back all personal comments against them haha)
 
Did I actually say Pep didn't want Ibra? No.
Did I say that Pep can't tell the directors who he wants? No.
Pep wanted Eto'o out, Ibra in. The amount of money involved in that was none of his business. He isn't the one who splashed the cash on Ibra, nor is he the one who let Toure go (though he did underappreciate him)

It's actually great to read all these Madridistas sticking the boot into Pep and telling everybody how much better Mourinho is, when he can't get past Barca in the league.... Also (and there's no arguing against this, it's a simple fact based on odds from bookies) Barca are favourites to win all three competitions.

Heh..where have i actually sticked the boot into Pep and told how much better Mourinho is? Please..tell me.

Altought..i think thats the case and Mourinho is certainly better than Pep. He has succeeded everywhere.

And is it Mourinhos fault that he cannot put Real above the worlds best team who have the best player in the world and have played together for a long time in his first year at Madrid?

He has done well and got the to next round in CL and the copa final. And it's still possible that he catches Barca. I dont think he will but it's possible. So stop talking bullshit.

Pep is the ideal coach for Barca. But Mourinho is simply the best coach in the world. And the stats show it.

I doubt Pep could do the things Mourinho has done. But it's not really that hard for Pep to succeed with those players he has now.

And Pep has wasted pretty much of Barcas cash. Like the Ukrainian centre back. A good coach can use his funds a little better..
 
I am Barcelona fan with a soft spot for villarreal and i have just found this thread. I am a massive la liga enthusiast and am really enjoying the season so far. The biggest game of the season so far for barcelona will come this weekend when they go to my other team villarreal. Having gone off the boil in recent weeks Barcelona face an in-form Villarreal side who posses a massive threat to any defence with their attractive style of football and their front pairing of rossi and nilmar and if the yellow submarine can get 3 points as well as real madrid then the gap will be 2 points with an el clasico at the bernabeu still to come effectively handing the momentum to real madrid in the title race so whats the thoughts on la ligas 2 most attractive teams going head to head at the weekend with the possibility of lionel messi missing the game through injury?

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As for the Mourinho Guardiola argument i couldnt possibly say Guardiola is a better manager than mourinho due to the fact Mourinho has won titles all through a longer career than Guardiola and his medals speak for themselves. But we cant really come to a conclusion on this argument until both managers are at the end of their careers because Guardiola has not failed to win a trophy so far and if he continues that then he could very well prove to be the better manager so its all about opinion at the moment and the facts will one day materialise and then we can say who is better full stop
 
rumours say that Bielsa is going to be Sevilla's manager next season.
i would love to see him managing in Europe, he was a few days in charge of Espanyol but he left when he was offered the Argentina job
 
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