Why have all of the utd threads conveniently been closed? Admittedly I didn't read through 14 pages of Chelsea-Utd so I don't know if there was lots of arguing or something...
I saw the highlights (well, goals and major incidents) on 101goals, so I can't talk about David Luiz.. From my angle, it looked like Smalling didn't move his leg/foot in time and Zhirkov was always going to go over at the slightest bit of contact; if there was contact, that's a penalty... (BBC said they weren't sure if there was anything Smalling could do, which suggests he did trip him.)
Brilliant comeback from Chelsea, and a superb finish from Luiz, who's looked really impressive when I've seen him and is still only 23...
Not sure why Vidic was sent off, seemed a bit of a nothing challenge on the edge of the box, without really warranting a (second) yellow card..
All the same, I'm not entirely sure why SAF is having a go - I guess that's part of football; what goes around comes around, and when it does come around, managers and fans will complain and wipe other, more favourable refereeing decisions from their memory (Neville v WBA, Neville v Stoke, Rooney v Wigan - who shouldn't even have been on the pitch to score, pen vs Arsenal etc.)
I'm sure Utd fans have a reason to feel aggrieved, but it's brilliant news for Arsenal, who have a real chance to pinch the title now.. Big injuries/suspensions for Utd vs Liverpool, too and I actually felt more confident of Liverpool taking points off Utd, considering the importance of the game for the fans etc.
It was fairly inevitable, though that Utd should finally lose away from home (again, but still..) - Teams just needed to take the chances they were inevitably going to get, unlike Wigan, Stoke etc.
It's all about how Arsenal respond to the defeat in the final, though - A Guardian graphic showed that actually, the majority of losers in the Lg Cup final either move UP a place, or stay the same. (Though I don't there was much chance of City/Spuds/Chelsea catching us in 2nd)
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Seeing the highlights again, this comment in the Guardian article sums it up:
Smalling's challenge on Zhirkov was as punishable as Daniel Agger's on Berbatov at Old Trafford in the FA Cup in January. Bet Fergie and Man Utd fans weren't berating the ref that day. The fact that only one ref at one ground seems to give everything against Man Utd shouldn't obscure the fact that Fergie and his club have been successfully influencing officials for years. Rooney's non-punishment for a violent challenge last Saturday just the latest of so many decisions that have benefitted Man Utd.