Liverpool 1-1 Arsenal: Arsenal dominate, but only just grab a point

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Liverpool 1-1 Arsenal: Arsenal dominate, but only just grab a point
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/08/15/liverpool-arsenal-reina-error/

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The starting line-ups

A crazy game that neither side truly deserved to win.
Arsenal’s side was largely as expected – injuries in the centre of midfield meant Jack Wilshere was deployed alongside Abou Diaby, who played a more conservative role than he likes. Laurent Koscielny made his debut alongside Thomas Vermaelen, whilst Marouane Chamakh also started.

Liverpool played a 4-2-3-1 with Steven Gerrard deep alongside Javier Mascherano and Joe Cole as the link player. Milan Jovanovic played an industrious, Kuyt-esque role on the left, ahead of Daniel Agger in an “unfamiliar” left-back role.

Arsenal started the better in terms of possession and territory, keeping the ball well, but struggling to create chances thanks to Liverpool’s back four who played well, and defended relatively deep.

Although in theory the two sides were playing the same formation, broadly 4-2-3-1, there were noticeable differences in how they operated. Arsenal played higher up the pitch and pressed more intensely, with the two wide players practically alongside Samir Nasri even when they didn’t have the ball. Liverpool’s wide men sat deeper, forming two banks of four and leaving Joe Cole in something approaching a free role, with few defensive responsibilities.

Difference in the performance of playmakers

Indeed, getting Cole involved in play was Liverpool’s biggest problem in the first half – in stark contrast to Nasri, who was probably the game’s central figure before half-time. Nasri completed 25 passes in the first half, compared to Cole’s 7 (below). That central player is pivotal in the 4-2-3-1, generally given the freest role on the pitch, and consequently responsible for a large part of his side’s creativity. To write off Cole’s chances of succeeding in that position would be foolish, but for all the hype about him playing in supposedly his best position, we must remember that never before has he consistently played good football in that position; he reached his heights when wide under Jose Mourinho. This is a new challenge for him.

Despite Chamakh being recruited to give Arsenal an aerial threat, something they lacked last season, he wasn’t particularly successful in this aspect of his game today – of the five aerial duels he contested against Liverpool’s centre-backs, he was unsuccessful on every occasion. He, like Cole, struggled to get into the game, and this summed up each side’s failings. Liverpool couldn’t get their playmaker involved so couldn’t create, whilst Arsenal couldn’t get their goalscorer involved so couldn’t find someone on the end of their moves.

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One might have expected Cole’s red card to change the game, but as basic a point this may seem, the fact that he was so uninvolved meant that it mattered far less than many other first-half dismissals do. Even when Cole was on the pitch, Liverpool were looking to the other three attacking players more immediately – Gerrard hit a couple of terrific Xabi Alonso-esque passes out to Dirk Kuyt on the right, and the midfield playing quick, long balls over the top for David Ngog also seemed to be a tactic, although the Frenchman wasn’t timing his runs well enough to beat the linesman’s flag.

Liverpool continue to defend solidly

Since Cole was not particularly involved in defending, that aspect of Liverpool’s game didn’t change, although it allowed Abou Diaby and Jack Wilshere more time on the ball deep in midfield. And Liverpool went ahead almost immediately in the second half, when Wilshere’s poor touch presented the ball to Mascherano – he passed forward to Ngog, who finished from a tight angle.

Arsenal then played awfully for the next 15 minutes despite the extra man advantage – they were unable to work the ball into the final third, despite Liverpool being content to sit deep. Roy Hodgson used his wingers very defensively and Liverpool slowed the pace of the game whenever possible. The organisation they showed will be credited to Hodgson, a manager obsessed with refining positioning on the training ground, but it also had hallmarks of Benitez’s reign, when Liverpool frequently defended solidly despite going down to ten men.

The stats back up a tremendous defensive performance from three of the back four – Carragher won three out of four tackles, Agger won four out of four, and Skrtel won five out of five. Only Glen Johnson remains unconvincing, and it was his error in thumping the ball into the stands that indirectly led to Arsenal’s equaliser.

Arsenal push forward

Arsene Wenger was happy to concede his 3 v 2 midfield advantage (clearly feeling Arsenal would dominate possession anyway) as he brought on Theo Walcott and used him as a central support striker rather than in a wide area. He was unable to utilise his pace, though – Liverpool’s deep defensive line denied him space in behind, and Arsenal instead looked to play the ball into wide zones.

Here they found little joy – their two full-backs attempted nine crosses but didn’t find an Arsenal player once, and the deadlock seemed more likely to be broken through Nasri or substitute Tomas Rosicky from a central role. Liverpool were defending deep, but not particularly narrow when compared to, say, the way Tottenham dealt with Arsenal towards the end of last season. Nasri had a thunderous shot that was blocked by Skrtel on route to goal, whilst Rosicky’s wonderful footwork ended with a stabbed shot that Reina tipped over.

Fernando Torres’ introduction helped Liverpool provide slightly more of an attacking threat – Ngog was tired after playing the lone striker role for 74 minutes, and Torres twice threatened to get in behind Koscielny. Another substitute, Maxi Rodriguez, didn’t do much going forward but is extremely disciplined and helped Liverpool keep their shape in midfield.

Arsenal’s goal arrived in such ridiculous fashion that it’s difficult to draw too many conclusions, but we should note that it was a cross towards Chamakh (who scored 80% of his goals last season from headers) that resulted in the equaliser. Reina’s fumble over the line is hard to put down to genius attacking tactics, but maybe Arsenal wouldn’t have been so keen to chuck the ball into the box had they not been playing their new ‘traditional number 9′.

Conclusion

Despite one new manager and four new signings on the pitch, the game was largely as expected. Liverpool defended well but created very little, whilst Arsenal had plenty of possession but couldn’t score without the help of Reina carrying the ball into his own goal.

Arsenal fans will be reasonably confident that the lack of creative spark in the final third will be provided by the returnof Cesc Fabregas and van Persie, though it seems defending deep with two banks of four against them remains the best way to get a result, and they’ll have to break down this type of opposition more convincingly to challenge for the title.

Liverpool can also consider this a positive result having played half the game with ten men. As you would expect given the new manager, they are the side with more question marks about their formation and personnel – will Hodgson move to his traditionally preferred 4-4-2, or stick with this 4-2-3-1 system? Losing Cole for the next three matches might be one of the most important factors in this – if they reshape and find success under a different shape, then Cole’s much-hyped central playmaker role may have lasted only 45 unhappy minutes.
 
would it be possible to get a zonal marking bot?
 
A very predictable game in many ways, I always say that the ‘big’ games in England are very much over hyped and often lack lustre.

Both sides wouldn’t want to give too much away on the opening weekend and it showed yesterday.

Like the article says I thought Liverpool defended well, especially in set plays, now using man marking, will that stop them conceding so many goals from these area’s ?

Glen Johnson was my main concern for Liverpool before the season started and how would Roy utilise him, he doesn’t like to be confined and the tactic’s set out yesterday were rather deep and restricting. Cole’s red card was unfortunate and unjust but I can see why the referee gave it, perhaps however this shows we need technology in the game?

Arsenal played some good football and there new defender impressed me. He was also unfortunate to see red. Wilshere was playing in a rather reserved role, which I didn’t like and the new striker looks promising.
 
it's early days, but joe has got to pull his finger out. long gone are the days when you could be and AMC and just drift about in the space between midfield and defence, getting on the ball with ease and in acres of space. with teams playing a DMC, or even two in some cases, your work rate has to be so much higher.
 
Good article as always, thanks Madsheep. I don't see how Arsenal are going to break down this dreaded 'two banks of four'
 
We played like we were the away side. I know the press are doing the whole 'new era' thing but that was one of the most cautious and most defensive displays I've seen at Anfield since Ged.

As noted after Europa League games, Cole's ability to find space centrally against decent teams is very much in doubt.

Mash will be a huge loss if sold - he proved that yesterday once again. Defensively superb and setting up the goal.

Vehemently disagree with Mr.Hodgson over Gerrard's best position being central midfield but we'll give Mr.Hodgson time to realise that in games which we're chasing.
 
it's early days, but joe has got to pull his finger out. long gone are the days when you could be and AMC and just drift about in the space between midfield and defence, getting on the ball with ease and in acres of space. with teams playing a DMC, or even two in some cases, your work rate has to be so much higher.

But Liverpool defending so deep allowed Nasri to do exactly this, we saw on MOTD how much space he had when he received the ball from Diaby or Wilshere, although as the article said, Walcott wasn't able to make runs behind the defence. Chamakh didn't do enough of what he did so well in pre-season: hold up the ball. Nasri scored a couple of good goals, and had chances from short passes into Chamakh, who held up the ball, drawing defenders to him, before either turning himself, or releasing to Arshavin/Nasri. Arsenal's lack of width hindered us, when Nasri got the ball, he had very little options, although when he did have options, he often made the wrong decision, showing as Lee said that no one wanted to lose, and both teams were a little nervous.

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Vehemently disagree with Mr.Hodgson over Gerrard's best position being central midfield but we'll give Mr.Hodgson time to realise that in games which we're chasing.

To be fair, it was less Gerrard not being comfortable in the CM position, than Gerrard being better than Cole in the Free Role, finding space between the midfield and defence. Why can't Joe Cole step into the 'Benayoun Role'? Surely as a quick, tricky winger he'd be ideal here.. What other options do you have in Central Midfield (Assuming Mascherano is going)? And what will Poulsen's role be?
 
To be fair, it was less Gerrard not being comfortable in the CM position, than Gerrard being better than Cole in the Free Role, finding space between the midfield and defence. Why can't Joe Cole step into the 'Benayoun Role'? Surely as a quick, tricky winger he'd be ideal here.. What other options do you have in Central Midfield (Assuming Mascherano is going)? And what will Poulsen's role be?

Cole's been promised that role in the team and that he won't be pushed wider. XD Gerrard in central midfield and being told to sit deep will end in tears as his passing radar goes wonky far too regularly and especially if Liverpool go behind which is when 'Steven Gerrard Match Winner' mode kicks in - can't get away with that against top teams who'll exploit the space he leaves behind in central midfield.

When Lucas came on, he was pushing further on into midfield than Gerrard. No idea about Poulsen - he's another snide like Mash but, on past form at Juve, without even Momo's dynamism doing it.

Arsenal still look toothless without Fabregas in the team. Possession is a means to an end, not an end in itself. Must be concerning to dominate quite so convincingly for so long and create the square root of no decent chances. Not so much about being direct but about spotting the gaps and creating the openings which Arsenal really seem to struggle with.
 
Cole's been promised that role in the team and that he won't be pushed wider. XD Gerrard in central midfield and being told to sit deep will end in tears as his passing radar goes wonky far too regularly and especially if Liverpool go behind which is when 'Steven Gerrard Match Winner' mode kicks in - can't get away with that against top teams who'll exploit the space he leaves behind in central midfield.

When Lucas came on, he was pushing further on into midfield than Gerrard. No idea about Poulsen - he's another snide like Mash but, on past form at Juve, without even Momo's dynamism doing it.

Arsenal still look toothless without Fabregas in the team. Possession is a means to an end, not an end in itself. Must be concerning to dominate quite so convincingly for so long and create the square root of no decent chances. Not so much about being direct but about spotting the gaps and creating the openings which Arsenal really seem to struggle with.
think roy made an error in promising that, and gerrard in central midfield? hes just not a central midfieler with his hollywood passing

on arsenal, for all their passing they seriously miss van persie and fabregas, that little cameo from RVP shows why he is so important
 
If it wasn't for central role cole would have opted for other club. This is just my guess.
 
think roy made an error in promising that, and gerrard in central midfield? hes just not a central midfieler with his hollywood passing

on arsenal, for all their passing they seriously miss van persie and fabregas, that little cameo from RVP shows why he is so important

It certainly did. He's a very important player, he can make runs, as well as dropping deep and laying off to other players.

Mascherano seemed to do all the hard work yesterday, while Gerrard simply collected deep, and played long balls over the top for N'Gog, which might have been good, had N'Gog learnt to time his runs properly.
 
If it wasn't for central role cole would have opted for other club. This is just my guess.
still, if i was roy, i would be having a quiet work in his ear if he wants to keep that central role.
 
think roy made an error in promising that, and gerrard in central midfield? hes just not a central midfieler with his hollywood passing

on arsenal, for all their passing they seriously miss van persie and fabregas, that little cameo from RVP shows why he is so important

People only tend to remember the ones which come off as opposed to the 20 misplaced ones, don't they? He's not Alonso - Alonso had the ability to create space for himself and team-mates by playing the ball in the tightest of spaces which is why he was so effective (and why he drew so many horrific challenges). But I guess the mythology surrounding Steven Gerrard is easier to understand when you have all the pundits lining up to say how well he'd play the 'Schweinstiger role' (lol - wtf?!).

It'll be interesting to see whether this was a 'safe' performance designed to avoid the early loss, but from the evidence of what went on before Cole got (rightly) sent off, then it's a bit worrying that Mr.Hodgson's masterplan isn't quite up to scratch yet. Meh. Keep reminding myself to give him time, but when you get Purslow saying that Mr.Hodgson has been everything expected, I cringe and pray that isn't true. :S

re.Arsenal - does that make them a two man team? ;) Got to wonder whether Wenger has disappeared up his proverbial at times with the lack of pragmatism he's displayed the past few seasons. Don't think it would be tolerated in any other club, but his initial trophies seem to have guaranteed his sinecure and it's kind of amusing to see how much effort his putting into his relationship with the media and the 'England is important to me' line he's taking since their little 'get Wenger sacked' campaign a couple of seasons ago.

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Just an afterthought - one thing which has peeved a lot is how Sky have now taken to photoshopping Liverpool banners. They added in Hodgson to ones which don't have Hodgson on them. There's a reason why Ged doesn't get onto many banners, and Souness and Evans don't appear at all.

Sky version: http://tweetphoto.com/39242099
What it really looks like: http://tweetphoto.com/39244976
And another Sky version of a famous banner which shouldn't have Hodgson on it: http://twitpic.com/2f6cuc

Seriously getting tired of Sky.
 
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People only tend to remember the ones which come off as opposed to the 20 misplaced ones, don't they? He's not Alonso - Alonso had the ability to create space for himself and team-mates by playing the ball in the tightest of spaces which is why he was so effective (and why he drew so many horrific challenges). But I guess the mythology surrounding Steven Gerrard is easier to understand when you have all the pundits lining up to say how well he'd play the 'Schweinstiger role' (lol - wtf?!).

It'll be interesting to see whether this was a 'safe' performance designed to avoid the early loss, but from the evidence of what went on before Cole got (rightly) sent off, then it's a bit worrying that Mr.Hodgson's masterplan isn't quite up to scratch yet. Meh. Keep reminding myself to give him time, but when you get Purslow saying that Mr.Hodgson has been everything expected, I cringe and pray that isn't true. :S

re.Arsenal - does that make them a two man team? ;) Got to wonder whether Wenger has disappeared up his proverbial at times with the lack of pragmatism he's displayed the past few seasons. Don't think it would be tolerated in any other club, but his initial trophies seem to have guaranteed his sinecure and it's kind of amusing to see how much effort his putting into his relationship with the media and the 'England is important to me' line he's taking since their little 'get Wenger sacked' campaign a couple of seasons ago.

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Just an afterthought - one thing which has peeved a lot is how Sky have now taken to photoshopping Liverpool banners. They added in Hodgson to ones which don't have Hodgson on them. There's a reason why Ged doesn't get onto many banners, and Souness doesn't appear at all.

Sky version: http://tweetphoto.com/39242099
What it really looks like: http://tweetphoto.com/39244976
And another Sky version of a famous banner which shouldn't have Hodgson on it: http://twitpic.com/2f6cuc

Seriously getting tired of Sky.
ive long since stopped taking notice of any pundit who says that gerrard is great at the "quarterback role". especially itv commentators who talk like he is the english alonso. agree about hodgsons plan. This was a performance that Benitez would have been damned for.

RE: wenger, agree about his attitude, his seeming dismissal of taking the cups seriously when they havent won a trophy is in 5 years is somewhat laughable, but i wonder if he wil be forced to climb down on that stance this season

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just looked the photos, unbelievable from Sky
 
No comment RE: Wenger..

Re: Sky: Funny, but ridiculous.

Finally: Completely agree about Gerrard, little embarrassing for Hodgson who may have to go back on his word already..
 
Torres

Cole Gerrard

Jovanovic Kuyt

Mascherano ?

F. Aurelio Agger Carragher Johnsone

I wonder if that formation might solve the Cole/ Gerrard conundrum ? It's a 4-1-2-2-1 with Cole & Gerrard as twin AMCs & Jov & Kuyt playing wide. Might have to use a counter attacking / direct passing game to make it work. (H)
 
Torres

Cole Gerrard

Jovanovic Kuyt

Mascherano ?

F. Aurelio Agger Carragher Johnsone

I wonder if that formation might solve the Cole/ Gerrard conundrum ? It's a 4-1-2-2-1 with Cole & Gerrard as twin AMCs & Jov & Kuyt playing wide. Might have to use a counter attacking / direct passing game to make it work. (H)
you'd get overrun through the middle imo
 
Torres

Cole Gerrard

Jovanovic Kuyt

Mascherano ?

F. Aurelio Agger Carragher Johnsone

I wonder if that formation might solve the Cole/ Gerrard conundrum ? It's a 4-1-2-2-1 with Cole & Gerrard as twin AMCs & Jov & Kuyt playing wide. Might have to use a counter attacking / direct passing game to make it work. (H)

Teams would rape home and away if thats the formation Hodgson uses. Might work in FM, but no way IRL.
 
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