My Huge Tactics Testing Project (FM 2013)

ive been playing around with the save you uploaded. in my opinion you should add friendlies and season prep - vacation until the league starts. That way the tactic will be at least on competent when the league play starts

I believe there some friendlies arranged and handled by the ast.manager..
I will check that again later..
 
i think that every team having the same players is important to evaluate the diferences between the tactics. what you can do is not have so many world class players, because these tend to be very inventive and think out of the box, so they might not perform equally well for every team. maybe you could try using average players instead, this, along with healmuth's suggestion would probably improve the "fairness" of the tests and make the results be more realistic, with less 5-3's or 4-4's.

yeah, that could be it.. I'll consider reducing the talents in each squad..
before that, I'll try at least one round for classic mode..
a question, is it just me or its actually easier to win something in classic mode??
is there any difficulty difference between normal and classic mode???
 
ROUND 3

Patch: 13.1.3
Mode: Normal
Progress: 15 league games
Tactics entry:

TEAM A - Alaba (Goals and parked bus_ 4-1-3-2)
TEAM B - JP Woody (simple 442 13.1.3)
TEAM C - Koflok (Goals Galore 2013.3)
TEAM D - LeBlue (3-2-1-2-2MC)
TEAM E - Nezza (5-2-1-2)
TEAM F - Nunolandia (4-3-3 2.1)
TEAM G - Seanhrfc (FIFA V2)
TEAM H - Zero Sea (Fight For Athena V4)

Current Standings:

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Cup Update:

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Best Results:

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Best Head-to-Head:

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Notes:
- JP Woody's is in the cup final, the first to do so!
 
hey mate, when u starting next round? i've updated my tactic for the new patch after much testing and tweaking and i'd love it if you could squeeze it into the next round! will post it tonight or tomorrow.

cheers!
 
I believe there some friendlies arranged and handled by the ast.manager..
I will check that again later..

Yes there are friendlies but they start too late. The tactic is not ingrained even when you select Training Very High - Team Cohesion and Match Prep Tactics only. They get to about 60-65% before the first league game. Hence, I think what should be changed is:

- Start the league end of August instead of early August (first game right now is on the 11th).
- Change the quality of the players a bit. I think its good to have some star players, but perhaps not 11 of them. It should still resemble a strong team IMO
- Have the assistant take the team-pep talks, attend the PR conferences etc.
- Have the assistant Pick each squad before the match, since IMO that would rather relate to how in a real game you put your squad together (somewhat based on performance and average rating)
- Make sure each team has the same level of coaches and physios
- Edit all teams to start with Very High Moral
 
hey mate, when u starting next round? i've updated my tactic for the new patch after much testing and tweaking and i'd love it if you could squeeze it into the next round! will post it tonight or tomorrow.

cheers!

I have actually started ROUND 4 today with your Zemanlandia..
so this one in the shortlist for round 5..
by the way, I'm running ROUND 4 in a classic mode..
maybe the next round too, so make sure its compatible for the FMC..
cheers!
 
Yes there are friendlies but they start too late. The tactic is not ingrained even when you select Training Very High - Team Cohesion and Match Prep Tactics only. They get to about 60-65% before the first league game. Hence, I think what should be changed is:

- Start the league end of August instead of early August (first game right now is on the 11th).
- Change the quality of the players a bit. I think its good to have some star players, but perhaps not 11 of them. It should still resemble a strong team IMO
- Have the assistant take the team-pep talks, attend the PR conferences etc.
- Have the assistant Pick each squad before the match, since IMO that would rather relate to how in a real game you put your squad together (somewhat based on performance and average rating)
- Make sure each team has the same level of coaches and physios
- Edit all teams to start with Very High Moral

Hmmm, yeah.. thats a good suggestion.
problem is, I'm not good in editing the database, in fact my early attempts ended with crashes..
why dont you help me with it? I have posted the database in this forum..
maybe you can adjust the league's starting date, high morale, and adjust the squads..
at the mean time, I'll run the next few rounds in classic mode..

by the way, the assistants always do all the work, eg. team-talks, team selections, conferences, etc..
i only assigned them the tasks after i plugged the tactic into the team..
 
ROUND 3

Patch: 13.1.3
Mode: Normal
Progress: Completed!
Tactics entry:

TEAM A - Alaba (Goals and parked bus_ 4-1-3-2)
TEAM B - JP Woody (simple 442 13.1.3)
TEAM C - Koflok (Goals Galore 2013.3)
TEAM D - LeBlue (3-2-1-2-2MC)
TEAM E - Nezza (5-2-1-2)
TEAM F - Nunolandia (4-3-3 2.1)
TEAM G - Seanhrfc (FIFA V2)
TEAM H - Zero Sea (Fight For Athena V4)

Final League Standings:

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Championship Playoffs:

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Cup Results:

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Best Results:

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Best Head-to-Head:

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Defeat in the cup final :'( Id bought a new suit too.

Good work, interesting reading.
 
Defeat in the cup final :'( Id bought a new suit too.

Good work, interesting reading.

thanks..
yeah, it was an encouraging run by your tactic..
certainly plan to run it in classic mode, maybe after the next round..
I'm a fan of an effective normal-looking-tactic..
there are just to many weirds formations in this year's FM..
 
Is It possible to add my tactic to your testing project? Amazing job here!

Sure, why not..
please link me the thread..
your tactic will probably end up in ROUND 5.. it will be a while though..
another thing, please make sure its compatible for the classic mode..
I'm postponing the normal mode until the format is adjusted..
 
ROUND 4

Patch: 13.1.3
Mode: Classic
Progress: Just started..
Tactics entry:

ARSENAL - Alaba (Zemanlandia)
CHELSEA - HBQ (Barca _Barcelona_ Nov 2010)
LIVERPOOL - RobadeStorici (Play football)
MAN CITY - Matti (Goal Machine 13.1)
MAN UNITED - Knap (WHG13.1.3-451p52f44a12)
TOTTENHAM - Raikan (TM Winger tactic Fm13)

Notes:
- This round will be ran in classic mode and will be using the original English nation database..
- It means each tactic will go through all 38 league games + cup matches..
- I know its not fair to compare Man City/United with Liverpool/Tottenham achievements, BUT instead, we can see how they finish the season based on the media prediction..
- Unfortunately, some tactics (like TBH, Mckay, Fearthain, etc) could not be included because they are not compatible for FMC mode.. sorry!
 
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Luck, chedule and start are all very important
I'm from the last one into the first
(╯▽╰)

So, if you test 38 games, luck will be not so important .

My tactics also have FMC version (TC)☺
 
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all of tbh tactics are in classic mode mate all off his tactics i use are like the old school ones with no names of positions like anchor man box to box poachr etc etc, dont know where u got that from?
 
all of tbh tactics are in classic mode mate all off his tactics i use are like the old school ones with no names of positions like anchor man box to box poachr etc etc, dont know where u got that from?

He means that in FMC (FM Classic mode) you can only use TC created tactics, not traditional "classic" tactics as you describe. TBH is working on an FMC tactic I think, we'll see that when she's done...
 
ROUND 4

Patch: 13.1.3
Mode: Classic
Progress: 5 League Games
Tactics entry:

ARSENAL - Alaba (Zemanlandia)
CHELSEA - HBQ (Barca _Barcelona_ Nov 2010)
LIVERPOOL - RobadeStorici (Play football)
MAN CITY - Matti (Goal Machine 13.1)
MAN UNITED - Knap (WHG13.1.3-451p52f44a12)
TOTTENHAM - Raikan (TM Winger tactic Fm13)


Premier League:

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Community Shield:

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European Super Cup:

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League Cup:

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Champions League:

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Europa League:

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Best Matches:

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Notes:
- Somehow, I feel doing the classic is much more exciting..
- Just realized that Newcastle is also in the Europa League, will include them in next round..
 
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