Need good players to play short passing/possession football in BSP,BSN or BSS leagues

[tigertailz001]

Has anyone found good cheap players or free transfers (ie Bargains) for the lower leagues that can play short passing/possession football?. without cheating in the editor or signings a load foreign players from Reunion!. And what attributes do you think need to look for?.

 

[Fatal548]

Don't bother playing beautiful football in those leagues. A rigid 4-4-2 got me to the League 1 (save still in progress) with Chester FC from the BSN.. I tried it and you'll get really annoyed because the players just aren't cut out for it and you'll end up giving the ball away in defense and conceding stupid goals

 

[tigertailz001]

Don't bother playing beautiful football in those leagues. A rigid 4-4-2 got me to the League 1 (save still in progress) with Chester FC from the BSN.. I tried it and you'll get really annoyed because the players just aren't cut out for it and you'll end up giving the ball away in defense and conceding stupid goals

Don't be defeatist!, there most be way to play that way, in real life Brendan Rodgers manage to get Swansea City to play like that with no superstars. I think you just need to be patient with the team to learn formation & tactics, and build team, train them the way you want play?. The counties around the world don't think that!, that's probably why the United Kingdoms club & international teams can't play possession football (keep ball not lose it!). Just look at England international team they can't keep possession even if have it reply on it to save there lives!, that's at highest level. So don't use division level as reason not playing not way, because at lower league team in Spain or Holland (Netherlands) etc would probably keep possession better than UK clubs at same level as they are?.

 

[TJD07]

Don't be defeatist!, there most be way to play that way, in real life Brendan Rodgers manage to get Swansea City to play like that with no superstars. I think you just need to be patient with the team to learn formation & tactics, and build team, train them the way you want play?

Bit of a difference between a Championship team and a BSP team, but yeah fatal is mostly right.
You can play nice possession football in lower leagues it's just you will suffer from players trying silly passes or messing up good chances. That's why a lot of people who play lower leagues tend to stick to more rigid formations and a more direct counter football.

 

[Cai1234]

Swansea played like that when they were in league 1.

 

[tigertailz001]

Bit of a difference between a Championship team and a BSP team, but yeah fatal is mostly right.
You can play nice possession football in lower leagues it's just you will suffer from players trying silly passes or messing up good chances. That's why a lot of people who play lower leagues tend to stick to more rigid formations and a more direct counter football.

It's a test how good manager or coach you are?, I bet F.C. Barcelona had problems in early stages setup there system. I would probably advice myself to try to employ good coaches & assistant manager or maybe even a director of football/head of youth development would help me teach the players system?. P.S. We do need change mind set of players, managers, coaches and even fans in this country!, change your thoughts that you have be good to pass a ball to a fellow player only one yard way. Only difficult thing is teach them movement to make them self's available to receive ball from another player (THE EASY PASS) ie triangles!, pass & move etc. Don't forget Arsene Wenger at Arsenal has change Arsenal style of play with Youngsters!. Also don't forget other countries play on rough playing surfaces not like English premier league stars that play on snooker table surfaces, that's how learn ball control (first touch & technique) & composure on the ball!.

 

[Scotty98TR]

And Brendan Rodgers DID NOT get Swansea playing like that!! IT was Roberto Martinez!

 

[tigertailz001]

And Brendan Rodgers DID NOT get Swansea playing like that!! IT was Roberto Martinez!

That not quite correct!, Roberto Martinez did set the foundations, then Paulo Sousa continued to try play that play with not much success, than Brendan Rodgers took it up a different level more tiki-taka possession play. And now Michael Laudrup has change them to more direct in the final third, that's why they scoring more goals this season!. And if look and study Roberto Martinez style of play at Wigan not quite tiki-taka (F.C. Barcelona/Athletic Bilbao/Spain) style football!, But yes he's still tries to keep possession!. But also Roberto Martinez did take Swansea from League Two up to Championship before left to go to Wigan!. Maybe you could back as far as 1996-1997 season Jan Molby was the manager (he played for AFC Ajax/Liverpool & Denmark), both Ajax & Liverpool played a passing possession style play in the eighty's & Denmark has always played 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 style like Holland (Netherlands). Don't forget Johan Cruijff with his playing days & coaching days at Ajax, Barcelona & Holland (Netherlands) influence the Danes like Morten Olsen & Michael Laudrup well as Spaniard Josep Guardiola with his (Dutch total football style)!. I'm showing my age now aren't I?.

 

[Cai1234]

That not quite correct!, Roberto Martinez did set the foundations, then Paulo Sousa continued to try play that play with not much success, than Brendan Rodgers took it up a different level more tiki-taka possession play. And now Michael Laudrup has change them to more direct in the final third, that's why they scoring more goals this season!. And if look and study Roberto Martinez style of play at Wigan not quite tiki-taka (F.C. Barcelona/Athletic Bilbao/Spain) style football!, But yes he's still tries to keep possession!. Also Roberto Martinez did take Swansea from League Two up to Championship before left to go to Wigan!.

Martinez changed Swansea into a free flowing attacking passing style of play then suspect created the rock solid defence and them Rodgers took the two parts and made a defensive, possession passing style of play. And now Laudrup has reverted back towards the way Martinez made Swansea play.

 

[tigertailz001]

Has anyone found good cheap players or free transfers (ie Bargains) for the lower leagues that can play short passing/possession football?. without cheating in the editor or signings a load foreign players from Reunion!. And what attributes do you think need to look for?.

I've been thinking about this & maybe need look at the mental attributes of players at this level & not their technical attributes, ie composure, anticipation, off the ball , positioning & teamwork also maybe work rate & determination ?. Maybe with work rate, determination they will learn system quicker?.

 

[tigertailz001]

Don't bother playing beautiful football in those leagues. A rigid 4-4-2 got me to the League 1 (save still in progress) with Chester FC from the BSN.. I tried it and you'll get really annoyed because the players just aren't cut out for it and you'll end up giving the ball away in defense and conceding stupid goals

Ok, but surely if train them to keep possession it will get better?. Rule number two in football keep ball and the opposition can't get ball off your team unless it's a good tackle or a foul!. I also understand that rule number one is to score goals and win, but don't forget that football is spectator run game!, rule number three.

 

[epic terrorist]

I'll tell you some of the guys i signed for fc united and i play this way so it is possible but you will have to mix it up at times david lynch is a must he is good playmaker for this style, and billy tsovolos as well

 

[tigertailz001]

Do you it would be a good idea to try signing older players from higher level who can play that way to tutor younger players in the team? ie PPM, if they would drop down level or two?. Or maybe even player/coaches?.

 

[epic terrorist]

Do you it would be a good idea to try signing older players from higher level who can play that way to tutor younger players in the team? ie PPM, if they would drop down level or two?. Or maybe even player/coaches?.

its difficult because of the budget, i go for younger players with the potential to be key players in the next division up so i don't have to sign to many players and disrupt the cohesion. i've been successful in loan market tho got players who would be good in league 2, just changed it from first team to key player when i bid and got them. just gotta spend least amount possible so you are in a stronger position when you start moving up the league

 

[tigertailz001]

I use to sign a lot French/Reunion players in FM12 at Blue Square Bet North/South division level, but FM13 it seems to be more difficult to sign those players this time around. As anyone else found that problem as well?. Like Yohan Guichard (AMR), Didier Caro (DL), Patrick Vaz (AML), ***** Robert (ST), Cedric Besson (DC), Ludovic Grondin (GK), Eric Farro (ML) & Thierry Goree (GK) all of them French players based in Reunion with dual (second) nationality is Reunionese.

 

[tigertailz001]

Has anyone signed Charles Devineau - AMC or Medhi Leroy - MC in FM13?. Very good players to sign for BSN or BSS Clubs in FM10/FM11/FM12, two French quality players on non-contacts with their clubs and signed for no transfer fee! and would drop down to that level.

 

[tigertailz001]

I've only had one reply on players that might be able to play this way in Blue Square Bet North/South divisions, and that was only two players suggested!. I take it that no else have found any good ones yet?. Come on! there must more hide talents out there?.

 

[tigertailz001]

Has anyone had luck finding any players to play Spanish tiki-taka/short passing possession style football or Dutch total style football in the lower leagues?. From a previous post I did, Ranikan suggested I should looking for ideal attributes for players would be (mental attributes): anticipation, decisions, off the ball, team work & work rate. And (technical attributes): first touch, passing & technique. On a older FM game, someone advice me to look for attributes for a potential player would be (hidden attributes): ambition & professionalism, (mental attributes) determination & work rate. Those attributes won't guarantee that a player would succeed?, but they are good indicates that player should succeed?. I try to get the players to have player preferred moves - all players try simple short passing, one-two's & defenders not to make through ball & strikers/forwards to come deep to the ball. Does anyone have any input in this?.

 

[Fatal548]

Don't be defeatist!, there most be way to play that way, in real life Brendan Rodgers manage to get Swansea City to play like that with no superstars. I think you just need to be patient with the team to learn formation & tactics, and build team, train them the way you want play?. The counties around the world don't think that!, that's probably why the United Kingdoms club & international teams can't play possession football (keep ball not lose it!). Just look at England international team they can't keep possession even if have it reply on it to save there lives!, that's at highest level. So don't use division level as reason not playing not way, because at lower league team in Spain or Holland (Netherlands) etc would probably keep possession better than UK clubs at same level as they are?.

Well believe me from experience, possession football isn't worth the bother in the lower leagues.. Your most advanced playmaker might only have a passing and creativity of 10, it's not worth it when a 4-4-2 can work 10x better.
How are you getting on though?

I don't really know why you'd want to play Barcelona football in those leagues - I just stuck on a really basic 4-4-2, got out of those leagues as fast as I could, then started work on playing a nice 4-2-3-1 in the premiership with Chester F.C.

 

[JP Woody]

You don't need good players to play short passing. If you think about it the short pass is the simplest pass. I've had success in the lower leagues playing short passing.