Need good players to play short passing/possession football in BSP,BSN or BSS leagues

[tigertailz001]

Well believe me from experience, possession football isn't worth the bother in the lower leagues.. Your most advanced playmaker might only have a passing and creativity of 10, it's not worth it when a 4-4-2 can work 10x better.
How are you getting on though?

I don't really know why you'd want to play Barcelona football in those leagues - I just stuck on a really basic 4-4-2, got out of those leagues as fast as I could, then started work on playing a nice 4-2-3-1 in the premiership with Chester F.C.

If you know anything about real football, you would know that if keep the ball ie short passing possession football, the opposition can't get the ball unless it's good tackle or give away a foul!. Just look at England international team they can't keep possession, plus more interesting to watch than watching a TENNIS MATCH!.

 

[tigertailz001]

You don't need good players to play short passing. If you think about it the short pass is the simplest pass. I've had success in the lower leagues playing short passing.

I agree with you over this, Just look how long it's taking for Liverpool to adjust!. Good players help!, but it's right players with right attributes that can play that style of football.

 

[tigertailz001]

I'll tell you some of the guys i signed for fc united and i play this way so it is possible but you will have to mix it up at times david lynch is a must he is good playmaker for this style, and billy tsovolos as well

I agree with you, yes David Lynch (former Burnley player) is very good playmaker at this level!.

 

[tigertailz001]

Well believe me from experience, possession football isn't worth the bother in the lower leagues.. Your most advanced playmaker might only have a passing and creativity of 10, it's not worth it when a 4-4-2 can work 10x better.
How are you getting on though?

I don't really know why you'd want to play Barcelona football in those leagues - I just stuck on a really basic 4-4-2, got out of those leagues as fast as I could, then started work on playing a nice 4-2-3-1 in the premiership with Chester F.C.

You can still a passing possession game with formation 4-4-2 anyway is not best way to control a game, but being that a lot of the English lower league clubs play 4-4-2, you can control match with possession football I've found, but need to patient with them because a lot of players that you get at level have low mental attributes!. Anyway have you manage to find any good bargains (players!) for English lower leagues?. I haven't been playing much recently because festive period!, haven't the time!. I did find I could change the way they play during game by using the shouts when using 4-4-2 formation, and having backup formations as 4-2-3-1 & 4-3-3. Then I plan to use them when they learnt them?, Maybe that will work?.

 

[Fatal548]

If you know anything about real football, you would know that if keep the ball ie short passing possession football, the opposition can't get the ball unless it's good tackle or give away a foul!. Just look at England international team they can't keep possession, plus more interesting to watch than watching a TENNIS MATCH!.

Well first off, I do know my football thanks I'm not launching an attack on you as you seem to be suggesting - I'm trying to add to this thread and give you some guidance based on my experience. Take my help or ignore me, but don't go accusing me of not knowing anything about football.
And second, look at Barca - how do they keep possession?
Brilliant, incisive passing executed my world class pros with passing ability some can only dream of. Most of the time they will lose possession because one player makes one sloppy pass.
In the lower leagues, you will have LOTS of players making LOTS of sloppy passes and the pacey lower league players will counter and defeat you.

If you really wanted to, I'm sure you could dig out some good playmakers and generally good passing players - but the potential financial outlay coupled with the massive search for players makes it redundant.
I've been playing FM for a few years now, and almost every year done a BSN/BSS to Premiership campaign.
I've reached the premiership with Chester F.C. now and honestly lower down, there's no point playing possession football.
You get promoted quickly when you just get some decent players in on frees and loans, playing pacey wingers and counter attacking. There's no point searching for players with 15 passing until much later on in my opinion. Now I've converted to a
4-2-3-1 style possession tactic with Joe Koroma (5 star regen, hands down best regen I've ever had) as my main playmaker in the hole and getting brilliant results. Lower down, it's about pacey wingers and getting promoted quickly. You do the dirty work then years (in game) later you reap the rewards in the Prem.

A couple of weeks after the OP, how are you getting on playing possession orientated football in the BSS though?

 

[tigertailz001]

Well first off, I do know my football thanks I'm not launching an attack on you as you seem to be suggesting - I'm trying to add to this thread and give you some guidance based on my experience. Take my help or ignore me, but don't go accusing me of not knowing anything about football.
And second, look at Barca - how do they keep possession?
Brilliant, incisive passing executed my world class pros with passing ability some can only dream of. Most of the time they will lose possession because one player makes one sloppy pass.
In the lower leagues, you will have LOTS of players making LOTS of sloppy passes and the pacey lower league players will counter and defeat you.

If you really wanted to, I'm sure you could dig out some good playmakers and generally good passing players - but the potential financial outlay coupled with the massive search for players makes it redundant.
I've been playing FM for a few years now, and almost every year done a BSN/BSS to Premiership campaign.
I've reached the premiership with Chester F.C. now and honestly lower down, there's no point playing possession football.
You get promoted quickly when you just get some decent players in on frees and loans, playing pacey wingers and counter attacking. There's no point searching for players with 15 passing until much later on in my opinion. Now I've converted to a
4-2-3-1 style possession tactic with Joe Koroma (5 star regen, hands down best regen I've ever had) as my main playmaker in the hole and getting brilliant results. Lower down, it's about pacey wingers and getting promoted quickly. You do the dirty work then years (in game) later you reap the rewards in the Prem.

A couple of weeks after the OP, how are you getting on playing possession orientated football in the BSS though?

You maybe right on playing possession football in Blue Square Bet leagues on Football Manager 2013 game?, but simple passing possession football should be easy to play because of it's not hard to passing a ball to the nearest player to them?. I'm not asking them to playing like F.C. Barcelona, even Liverpool are struggling to try play a passing game at times?. But also if you look at foreign teams at their lower levels they still keep ball possession better than British teams at the lower levels, technique is better! and been taught at earlier age to play that way. How many times have you heard commentates say about a team from abroad they technically good on the ball even when the British team is better than foreign team in their quality of player. Plus F.C. Barcelona is not just a possession passing team, they have a killer instinct in their passing, plus have MESSI a world class player. Also F.C. Barcelona, Arsenal & Swansea do concede silly goals at times and lose matches. F.C. Barcelona did not learn the formal for possession football overnight, it took time!. So my theory is patience with them to teach them the formation and tactics, so pick up young British players with good determination, work rate & teamwork along with high potential rating?, and they should progress to learn the formations & tactics I choose to use?. I'm talking about a long term project, not instant results. In real life football we complain about lack of British/English with composure on the ball at international, the only way we can change that is teaching players at earlier age to play that way?. Don't you agree with me?.

 

[naff123]

Donno what this guy is doing wrong but I am using a Standing off, short ball possessive 4-3-3 and I am joint top of BSS with Dover I have only brought in 3 players in I have on loan Reece Connolly is a star player! 6 Goals in 5 Games got him on Loan from Aldershot, Got Arron Wickham on Loan and Frank Sinclair on a free he is ok just too aggresive!. not conceeded in 3 games with Dover Athletic

 

[Cai1234]

Well first off, I do know my football thanks I'm not launching an attack on you as you seem to be suggesting - I'm trying to add to this thread and give you some guidance based on my experience. Take my help or ignore me, but don't go accusing me of not knowing anything about football.
And second, look at Barca - how do they keep possession?
Brilliant, incisive passing executed my world class pros with passing ability some can only dream of. Most of the time they will lose possession because one player makes one sloppy pass.
In the lower leagues, you will have LOTS of players making LOTS of sloppy passes and the pacey lower league players will counter and defeat you.

If you really wanted to, I'm sure you could dig out some good playmakers and generally good passing players - but the potential financial outlay coupled with the massive search for players makes it redundant.
I've been playing FM for a few years now, and almost every year done a BSN/BSS to Premiership campaign.
I've reached the premiership with Chester F.C. now and honestly lower down, there's no point playing possession football.
You get promoted quickly when you just get some decent players in on frees and loans, playing pacey wingers and counter attacking. There's no point searching for players with 15 passing until much later on in my opinion. Now I've converted to a
4-2-3-1 style possession tactic with Joe Koroma (5 star regen, hands down best regen I've ever had) as my main playmaker in the hole and getting brilliant results. Lower down, it's about pacey wingers and getting promoted quickly. You do the dirty work then years (in game) later you reap the rewards in the Prem.

A couple of weeks after the OP, how are you getting on playing possession orientated football in the BSS though?

Swansea managed it without a large financial outlay. They got Britton, Bodde, Dobbie, Rangel, Michu, Augustin and many others for a cheep, free or other reasons and they've been amazing and helped Swansea rise from league 2.

 

[naff123]

I don't think OP is trying to argue about Swansea shall we stick to the relevant subject like recomending good players for him?

 

[tigertailz001]

I've found a few players worth having look at (I'm using Runcorn Linnets at the moment in North West Counties Premier Division - level 9). All players I signed on a free transfer, Dutch Goalkeeper - Max de Vries, Full Back - Richie Towell (DR), Centre Back - Shaun Pejic (DC), Defensive Midfielder - Ben Sayer (DM), Midfielders - Shane Murray (MC), Ibrahim Farah (MC), Winger - Ben McKenna (AMR), Stikers - Thomas Gregg Lopes da Silva (ST), Dutchman - Gregory Viereck (ST). And also David Lynch as a Playmaker!.

 

[tigertailz001]

I've found few more players that might a do job: Michiel Vrijens - Dutch midfielder (20), Anes Beslija - Dutch midfielder (20), Mo Benlachen - Dutch midfielder (21), Remy de Groot - Dutch midfielder (24), Edinho Pattinama - Dutch striker (23), Robin Nijman - Dutch striker (21) and Arnold van der Ploeg - Dutch defender (23).