Neymar hailed for Premier League snub

[CJACKO11]

So he isn't spoilt for using Chelsea interest as an opportunity to improve his contract?

Hardly a personal attack on Chelsea when the article in first the place is about Neymar rejected Chelsea. From what I've heard about Neymar now, I think he would fit in well at Chelsea now.

Footballing wise maybe yes but not attitude wise.

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And where did I say that you said that?

You're wrong. You really are. Every talented Brazilian is treated like that at their club. Pato, Kaka, Ronaldinho, and especially Pele. Many are successful, and I'll grant you some aren't, but you're just plain wrong I'm afraid.

At the age of 18 and he is already treated like the main person at Santos, if he takes this mentality to Europe he will fail simple as that. Can you imagine what would happen if he spoke to Ferguson or Mourinho like that?

 

[GodCubed]

At the age of 18 and he is already treated like the main person at Santos, if he takes this mentality to Europe he will fail simple as that. Can you imagine what would happen if he spoke to Ferguson or Mourinho like that?

Right, and tell me Ronaldinho wasn't treated like that. Tell me Kaka wasn't. And now tell me they were failures in Europe. Yeah, thought not.

It's just how they do things in Brazil, I'm afraid, for better or for worse.

 

[CJACKO11]

Right, and tell me Ronaldinho wasn't treated like that. Tell me Kaka wasn't. And now tell me they were failures in Europe. Yeah, thought not.

It's just how they do things in Brazil, I'm afraid, for better or for worse.

I have listened to a recent interview with Tim Vickery and even he has said the same thing i have said and to be honest i would rather agree with someone who works in Brazil and knows Brazilian Football in side and out im pretty sure he knows more than what you do about this situation. He said the big winners in all of this is Chelsea enough said.

 

[GodCubed]

I have listened to a recent interview with Tim Vickery and even he has said the same thing i have said and to be honest i would rather agree with someone who works in Brazil and knows Brazilian Football in side and out im pretty sure he knows more than what you do about this situation. He said the big winners in all of this is Chelsea enough said.

You agree with the person who said Chelsea did well out of this, there's a shock. Point me in the direction of this interview, if you would. I'd rather like a listen to it, because Vickery's gone starkers if he thinks that is the case. I'm pretty sure Vickery wouldn't be saying "if he takes this mentality to Europe he will fail, simple as that", because as a journalist that's suicidal.

And besides, I don't understand why people put so much stock in pundits. Alan Shearer's absolutely awful, but he's a pundit and people listen to him. Same goes for Simon Barnes in the Times. Rubbish, sour journalist, but he's listened to nonetheless.

 

[JDY]

Right, and tell me Ronaldinho wasn't treated like that. Tell me Kaka wasn't. And now tell me they were failures in Europe. Yeah, thought not.

It's just how they do things in Brazil, I'm afraid, for better or for worse.

Those players you mentioned may have been the main players at their clubs. But it's not the same. It basically shows that 18-year-old Neymar has more power than the management of the club. If 'Every Talented Brazilian' is like that then Lord help those who wish to go into management in Brazil.

 

[CJACKO11]

You agree with the person who said Chelsea did well out of this, there's a shock. Point me in the direction of this interview, if you would. I'd rather like a listen to it, because Vickery's gone starkers if he thinks that is the case. I'm pretty sure Vickery wouldn't be saying "if he takes this mentality to Europe he will fail, simple as that", because as a journalist that's suicidal.

And besides, I don't understand why people put so much stock in pundits. Alan Shearer's absolutely awful, but he's a pundit and people listen to him. Same goes for Simon Barnes in the Times. Rubbish, sour journalist, but he's listened to nonetheless.

The interview is on the up all night podcast and their is alot of pundicts i don't agree with but i know for a fact that Tim Vickery is a well respected Jounelist and i don't just agree with him just because he said something is Chelsea's favour. He also said thats why Robinho didn't succeed at City because when he went back to Brazil he was wrapped in cotten woll and made bigger than the club then he came back to City wasen't a guarenteed first team player and didn't like it.

 

[GodCubed]

The interview is on the up all night podcast and their is alot of pundicts i don't agree with but i know for a fact that Tim Vickery is a well respected Jounelist and i don't just agree with him just because he said something is Chelsea's favour. He also said thats why Robinho didn't succeed at City because when he went back to Brazil he was wrapped in cotten woll and made bigger than the club then he came back to City wasen't a guarenteed first team player and didn't like it.

Right, okay, but we all know that Robinho is a quality player. He could turn out to be blisteringly good for Milan, so we should give him time.

Those players you mentioned may have been the main players at their clubs. But it's not the same. It basically shows that 18-year-old Neymar has more power than the management of the club. If 'Every Talented Brazilian' is like that then Lord help those who wish to go into management in Brazil.

When Ronaldinho left Grêmio for PSG, he used a breach in the then current brazilian law for transfers, the Lei Pelé, so PSG paid absolutely nothing for Ronaldinho. Grêmio had to recur to FIFA to make PSG pay something like £4 million for Ronaldinho, a miserly amount considering Ronaldinho was already seen by Grêmio and most of the world as one of the best talents seen for years. This, too, was at a time when Grêmio were in need of money, and quickly.

Whatever accusation is levelled at Neymar, at least I don't see him using a loophole in the Brazilian transfer laws to leave. Vickery, at the bottom of the article, explictly says that Brazilian managers aren't exactly in an easy job, so yes, lord help them indeed.

 

[Jay Pricey]

No harm in staying in your home country as a youngster for a few more years before jumping to Europe, If I were a top club I'd buy him and just loan him back out to Santos just to secure the signature and not to rush a youngster into another country so quickly.

 

[pluckyunderdog]

he's a very, very talented player that just wouldnt cut it in the premier league. he'd be kicked to death, and that would be a shame. I think he'll end up at a spanish club, real madrid maybe, cant see barca going after him.

 

[CJACKO11]

he's a very, very talented player that just wouldnt cut it in the premier league. he'd be kicked to death, and that would be a shame. I think he'll end up at a spanish club, real madrid maybe, cant see barca going after him.

i would have to agree and one of the main points of him staying with Santos was to play in the Copa Libatadores (the South American Champions League) to develop himself physicly.

 

[Dunc]

Neymar > *

He was only putting off his move to the Prem, as he heard Newcastle were slowely improving, and wants to keep playing in black and white stripes..

 

[CJACKO11]

Neymar > *

He was only putting off his move to the Prem, as he heard Newcastle were slowely improving, and wants to keep playing in black and white stripes..

lol he can be the new Gazza.

 

[Dunc]

lol he can be the new Gazza.

We love having angry/stressy/'ard people up here, Gazza, Laurent Robert, Carroll, Barton, Smith, Bellamy, Ben Arfa, Taylor, Bowyer, Dyer, Ketsbaia and of course Big Duncan Ferguson.

So yeh, he would fit in well up here!

 

[CJACKO11]

We love having angry/stressy/'ard people up here, Gazza, Laurent Robert, Carroll, Barton, Smith, Bellamy, Ben Arfa, Taylor, Bowyer, Dyer, Ketsbaia and of course Big Duncan Ferguson.

So yeh, he would fit in well up here!

maybie get him to sing fog on the tyne in Brazilian haha.