Rangers chairman admits club could go out of business

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Rangers chairman Alastair Johnston has admitted that the club could go bust.
The admission came in the wake of recent talks with would-be owner Craig Whyte and half-yearly figures indicating that the club owes £29m. Johnston insists that, when published in June, annual figures will show that debts have dropped to around £22m.


But he nodded in agreement when asked if it was possible for the club to go out of business if a decision over tax payments went heavily against them.
"The reality is that, if the decision is bad and the club can't pay, there would be a decision to be made," said Johnston, who expects a decision on the purchase of the club in the next couple of days.


"It's not clear where the liability lies. It could be October or November before we find out.
"The situation is not holding up the sale, but it does inhibit new financing and new investment.


"I have no idea of the sum for which we may be liable, but Rangers cannot afford much."
Figures for the six months to 31 December show that the amount Rangers owe to creditors due within the next year has increased by nearly £3.5m to £29m, most of that is believed to be owed to Lloyds Banking Group.


The club suffered a drop in pre-tax profit from £13m to £9m, turnover decreased by £4.1m to £33.7m and there was also a 4.9% decline in the number of season tickets sold, together with a reduction in sponsorship income.


However, Johnston insists that annual figures will show that finances are now in a much healthier state.
"Today's figures are a snapshot," he said. "They are not bad figures.
"Progress is good. Around £22m is a more realistic debt figure."
The real concern for Rangers is the judement they await from Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs over a tax issue relating to offshore payments to players and the Murray Group Management Limited Remuneration Trust.


Johnston admitted that "but for the HMRC verdict, life would be a lot easier" and he acknowledged in his statement to the Stock Exchange the investigation relating to offshore payments to players and the Murray Group Management Limited Remuneration Trust.


"I would emphasise that no allegations have been made to suggest any illegal activity and tax vehicles of this type have been used by a number of companies throughout the country," he said.


"We continue to vigorously contest HMRC's challenge on the taxation treatment of the trust and, in doing so, continue to receive reassuring opinion from tax, accounting and legal specialists."


The club's financial position has also been hit by a separate charge from the HMRC for £2.8m for activities in a player compensation scheme between 1999 and 2003.


All this is happening as Rangers are deep in talks with Whyte, who is hoping to take over ownership from Sir David Murray.


"This is a two-way street," said Johnston. "He is still enthusiastically addressing the issue and we are looking at his credentials.
"I want a forcing mechanism to force him to do what he says he is going to do in terms of future investment in the club.


"His agreement with the bank and with David Murray has nothing to do with Rangers. I want assurances of his ability to fund what he says he is going to do.


"Craig has to understand the club's position and the expectation level of the fans.
"It is very easy to talk about £25m investment, but there must be a forcing mechanism.
"We must get it into any purchase agreement. I admit this is very unusual."
Johnston also revealed that he asked manager Walter Smith and chief executive Martin Bain to give Whyte a briefing about the cash flow of the club in terms of the future requirement of players and that was done last week.
Rangers' chairman had criticised the club's banker in his statement to the Stock Exchange for making Smith's job more difficult than necessary.


"While we appreciate the support of the Lloyds Banking Group through the Bank of Scotland in extending our credit arrangement and recognising the progress that has been made in developing a template for collaboration, certain provisions imposed on the club continue to compromise, in our opinion, management's ability to conduct its role with maximum efficiency," Johnston said in his statement.


Indeed, despite Smith being restricted in his movements in the transfer market, player costs have remained around the same thanks to the addition of Nikica Jelavic, Vladimir Weiss and James Beattie.


The latest figures also show that Rangers' gained more from the sale of Danny Wilson to Liverpool and Kevin Thomson to Middlesbrough than they did the previous year for Barry Ferguson to Birmingham City and Charlie Adam to Blackpool.


"Net operating expenses at £21.1m are in line with last year, with base salary costs at similar levels and reduced matchday costs offset by higher maintenance expenditure and provisions for doubtful debts," explained Johnston.


Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/12932160.stm


If any such thing happened, it would be a sad day imo.
 
Yeah OP its to do with the HMRC tax case. If Rangers lose this case then there could be a fine of upto £50 million apparently and that is what the chairman was referring to. There is quite a bit of confusion as to who would be liable for the bill though as Rangers are owned through Murray International Holdings and it is believed that it would be the Holding Company liabilty. The actual tax case is against Rangers paying the players wages into offshore accounts I believe.
 
It'd ruin Scottish football, no? Rangers cannot go out of business.
 
Yeah, Scottish football would basicly end... No Rangers, no competition at all.
 
Shouldn't this be in the Scotland section?

Anyway, it would be a shame if Rangers went out of business, but it wouldn't be the end of the SPL; other teams would finish second, get money from the CL and challenge even more for the title. To begin with, Celtic would win it a lot of the time, but the other teams would catch up.

Regardless, don't want them to go out of business.
 
It's just scare tactics from the media trying to get attention. The question was directed at Alastair Johnston by Chick Young of the BBC, Asking if Rangers were hit with the full 80 million tax fine that they could not pay would they go under. The question answer's it's self if they couldn't pay then it's very obvious they would fold.

It would be very unlikely they would get fined the full amount. If the sale is pushed through then there is the debate to see who the liable party is, it could turn out it is Sir David Murray who could end up with the final bill.

At this point it's just a matter of guess work how much, who's liable. Until the case is fully investigated no one will know.
 
that would defo mean the end of scottish football as no rangers will see cweltic win countless trophies and still go out in the group syages of the champions league and still struggle in the europa league nothing new here
 
Ahh the mighty fine HMRC. Wouldn't think it would be too long before their messing with fans minds and jangling clubs traditions with their feet.

Best of luck to Rangers over the next year- Winding up orders etc, are very very difficult times for the club and fans..
 
No Rangers = No Celtic.

If Rangers go out of business celtic will become just another SPL team with a big stadium. The co-efficient for the SPL would drop dramatically with only Celtic really contributing to it which will make qualifying for the CL every season harder and harder. Once CL group stages stop being guaranteed Celtic will find it very hard to cover their outgoings and will probably have to forget about Europe. Celtic need Rangers and Rangers need Celtic, there success relies on each other, whether they like it or not.

Unless something is done about the state of Scottish Football as a whole soon then that's the road we're heading down. We need a larger SPL to reduce the monotony of playing the same teams over and over again. 7 Old Firm games in a season gets boring, also more teams to play against will freshen up the games for travelling fans having more away grounds to visit. We also need regionalised leagues in the lower leagues with promotion and relegation in a pyramid system. Lower league clubs don't have the finances to travel from the borders to the highlands and back again, regionalise it and save money. After that sort out who runs Scottish football, there's too many chiefs just now with the SFL, SFA and the SPL, let's merge
them all into one allowing for better scheduling, clearer decision making and less arguements.

BOOM. Scottish football fixed.
 
Like Craigo said the SPL need more teams. 12 or even 14 is not enough they should the top league as 20 or 24 teams ..play each other twice. It is really boring clubs playing each other 4 or 7 times a season. If the SPL is standard seems to be going down all the time it is a shame to see once huge clubs like Dundee Utd Aberdeen just not in contention. I think the SPL should be brave have a spending limit make every club have the same finances so no club can dominate maybe they should copy the MLS. If Rangers go out of business the SPL might as well be a part-time league or it will end up like the Irish league.
 
Well the other teams outside the old firm need to take some blame for the decrease in finances. If they can't full there stadium's apart from when they play the old firm the league will never improve. Without Rangers or Celtic the league would be like the Irish & welsh leagues or die out all together..
 
100% agree with Craigo. Make a ******* SPL with 20 teams, 2nd league with other 20. That's how it should be.
 
Well the other teams outside the old firm need to take some blame for the decrease in finances. If they can't full there stadium's apart from when they play the old firm the league will never improve. Without Rangers or Celtic the league would be like the Irish & welsh leagues or die out all together..


But it's not their fault they're not selling out their stadiums, it's the product on offer. Nobody wants to keep going to watch the same match over and over again, that's why we need more teams. Lot's of teams in the SPL this season have cut costs and had various promotions on tickets to encourage more fans, there is little else they can do.

It's not only the other teams, I drove past Ibrox on the night of a Monday night fixture and the areas of the stadium you can see driving past were empty. I think the attendance that night was only about 14,000. I know of a few Celtic fans who have given up their season ticket two seasons ago because they said they were bored of watching the SPL over and over again, that tells you we need more teams. It has to be either 16, 18 or 20 teams in my opinion with an SPL2 below that of similar size and regionalised leagues below that.
 
But it's not their fault they're not selling out their stadiums, it's the product on offer. Nobody wants to keep going to watch the same match over and over again, that's why we need more teams. Lot's of teams in the SPL this season have cut costs and had various promotions on tickets to encourage more fans, there is little else they can do.

It's not only the other teams, I drove past Ibrox on the night of a Monday night fixture and the areas of the stadium you can see driving past were empty. I think the attendance that night was only about 14,000. I know of a few Celtic fans who have given up their season ticket two seasons ago because they said they were bored of watching the SPL over and over again, that tells you we need more teams. It has to be either 16, 18 or 20 teams in my opinion with an SPL2 below that of similar size and regionalised leagues below that.

I don't know what the answer is & i'm not against increasing the size of the SPL. But look at it this way, do you think the likes of St Mirren would pull in more fans for matches against the like's of Dundee, Morton or Raith Rover's?

Teams like Stirling, Cowdenbeath & Queen of The South etc. would struggle up against teams in the top half of the SPL the now, alot of the games would just be like a cricket score. People complain about the lack of competition in the league at the moment never mind introducing team's who wouldn't stand a chance IMO.

If your a real fan & are able to attend games it shouldn't matter what the product is like. Look at Rangers this season they are still pulling in large crowds but the football has been awful & I'm a Rangers fan saying that.
 
Personally I can't see us going out of business and I pray we don't. I will be a rangers fan till the very end and even if we go down to amatuer football I would still support them. My club and the saying Rangers till I die is not just a saying, Scottish football may not die but the Old firm hold it together and without old firms what is there too look forward to in the spl season really ? I would get bored if Celtic went bust and We just won the league all the time at least with Celtic theres fight and passion. Someone said above 7 old firm games gets boring ? are you off your nut ? 7 old firm games is superb for the game maybe not for the behaviour and incidents that occur but it most certainly is not boring you can't have experienced much of the old firm atmosphere if you think that because thet last 2-3 old firms have been the best in a long time and thats with some already played. Old firm games make scottish football.
 
Who ever said that the SPL needs more team in it today shows why there cant be. The teams already in it financially arent able to keep there pitch in a playable condition so most of the 2nd tier teams coming up would have a chance. Also getting to play the OF 4 times a season adds to their finances as they sell more tickets.
Playing Rangers 7 times a season isnt boring for me. But playing the likes of Aberdeen so often is boring.
 
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