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Joss said:
It will just increase speculation and Barca quotes I imagine.

The Guardian's headline? "Cesc Fábregas admits frustration at Arsenal but will not ask for transfer" --> ****. Off.
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Nothing wrong with that headline....

“It’s frustrating not to win trophies. Barcelona are a great club, the best in the world, and playing there is a guarantee to win."

Hes frustrated at not winning, but will not push his way out as shown by the other quotes
 
Apparently Ben Smith tweeted some pretty stupid things at the backend of last season. Called Wenger a "****" apparently

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Mike. said:
Nothing wrong with that headline....

“It’s frustrating not to win trophies. Barcelona are a great club, the best in the world, and playing there is a guarantee to win."

Hes frustrated at not winning, but will not push his way out as shown by the other quotes
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Oh come one. I accept that they have to sell papers, but they could have chosen a billion and one other quotes to pick up on. Instead they chose to say "Fabregas is frustrated at Arsenal" - suggesting he's frustrated at the team, at still being at Arsenal, etc. He also says "I am very happy here".
 
Joss said:
Apparently Ben Smith tweeted some pretty stupid things at the backend of last season. Called Wenger a "****" apparently

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Oh come one. I accept that they have to sell papers, but they could have chosen a billion and one other quotes to pick up on. Instead they chose to say "Fabregas is frustrated at Arsenal" - suggesting he's frustrated at the team, at still being at Arsenal, etc. He also says "I am very happy here".
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No it doesnt, thats what you have read into it. It would have said with arsenal if it was the way you take it Doesn't really suggest much, you have just taken it that way. The world isnt oout to spin everything against you. Also thats why you read the article before getting annoyed at a one sentence headline that cannot convey the whole story.
 
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absolutely love this goal :wub:

Eduardo v Burnley H 05-08-2009

Over the years, Arsenal has had plenty of players who could score goals. But there is a special category for natural finishers. In 2010/11, Robin van Persie picked up that moniker after scoring 18 league goals after the New Year. And Ian Wright was the Club’s all-time leading scorer – until a guy named Thierry Henry came around.
And then there was Eduardo. His Arsenal career was far too short, but this goal sums up why he belongs with the aforementioned company.

While Henry did much of his damage outside the area, Eduardo was simply a predator inside the box. Find him with a cross, a pass or a knockdown and the chances are he would find the back of the net.
And similar to Henry's backheel against Charlton, this goal was a perfect piece of improvisation.

In a fifth round FA Cup match-up against Burnley, Arsenal took a one-goal lead in the first half and were again piling on the pressure after the re-start. Bacary Sagna, Alex Song and Abou Diaby linked up but the midfielder was dispossessed by Kevin McDonald just inside the box. Andrey Arshavin sprinted to the corner to retrieve the ball and laid it off for Kieran Gibbs. The left back then slid the ball back to Song in the middle.

Song looked up and floated a perfect pass towards Eduardo, who had peeled away towards the far post. But as the ball arrived, the Croatian had little time to adjust his feet. The goal poacher that he was, Eduardo he improvised. With a flick of the left heel, Eduardo knocked the ball past Burnley keeper Brian Jensen.

If there was ever a text book example of ‘cheeky finish’ this was it. And it proved once and for all that Eduardo was as good as ever after his injury nightmare.

Golden Goals No 45: Eduardo v Burnley | News Archive | News | Arsenal.com

Click the link to watch the goal
 
Fabregas could get pretty high up that assists table if he stays fit and stays at Arsenal. I truly hope we're getting Gervinho, 13 league goals in his first season at Lille and then 15 last season is pretty good for a winger. Hopefully that might also force one of Bendtner/Arshavin/Rosicky to leave.
 
Mike. said:
No it doesnt, thats what you have read into it. It would have said with arsenal if it was the way you take it Doesn't really suggest much, you have just taken it that way. The world isnt oout to spin everything against you. Also thats why you read the article before getting annoyed at a one sentence headline that cannot convey the whole story.
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Of course the world isn't against us. I'm not suggesting it is.. Just that the Media spin things to sell stories and get hits. It's boring.

Why not pick out the sentence that is, for me, the most important: "I am very happy at Arsenal". Nope. Cesc "frustrated" instead of "happy". Vidic wants transfer comes from "I haven't signed a new contract yet", or Rooney saying "I was disappointed to lose the CL final" goes to "Rooney slams Utd season" or something. It's whatever sells and then the article either presents quotes from the Press Association, or an article usually spinning whatever the quotes are.
 
Calum said:
absolutely love this goal :wub:

Eduardo v Burnley H 05-08-2009

Over the years, Arsenal has had plenty of players who could score goals. But there is a special category for natural finishers. In 2010/11, Robin van Persie picked up that moniker after scoring 18 league goals after the New Year. And Ian Wright was the Club’s all-time leading scorer – until a guy named Thierry Henry came around.
And then there was Eduardo. His Arsenal career was far too short, but this goal sums up why he belongs with the aforementioned company.

While Henry did much of his damage outside the area, Eduardo was simply a predator inside the box. Find him with a cross, a pass or a knockdown and the chances are he would find the back of the net.
And similar to Henry's backheel against Charlton, this goal was a perfect piece of improvisation.

In a fifth round FA Cup match-up against Burnley, Arsenal took a one-goal lead in the first half and were again piling on the pressure after the re-start. Bacary Sagna, Alex Song and Abou Diaby linked up but the midfielder was dispossessed by Kevin McDonald just inside the box. Andrey Arshavin sprinted to the corner to retrieve the ball and laid it off for Kieran Gibbs. The left back then slid the ball back to Song in the middle.

Song looked up and floated a perfect pass towards Eduardo, who had peeled away towards the far post. But as the ball arrived, the Croatian had little time to adjust his feet. The goal poacher that he was, Eduardo he improvised. With a flick of the left heel, Eduardo knocked the ball past Burnley keeper Brian Jensen.

If there was ever a text book example of ‘cheeky finish’ this was it. And it proved once and for all that Eduardo was as good as ever after his injury nightmare.

Golden Goals No 45: Eduardo v Burnley | News Archive | News | Arsenal.com

Click the link to watch the goal
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We see great goals being shown everywhere; this goal has definitely not had enough credit. Sublime technique and finishing, and as they said, improvisation.
 
[video=youtube;hD1od08DRrc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD1od08DRrc&feature=player_embedded#at=15[/video]
 
Joss said:
Of course the world isn't against us. I'm not suggesting it is.. Just that the Media spin things to sell stories and get hits. It's boring.

Why not pick out the sentence that is, for me, the most important: "I am very happy at Arsenal". Nope. Cesc "frustrated" instead of "happy". Vidic wants transfer comes from "I haven't signed a new contract yet", or Rooney saying "I was disappointed to lose the CL final" goes to "Rooney slams Utd season" or something. It's whatever sells and then the article either presents quotes from the Press Association, or an article usually spinning whatever the quotes are.
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The story hasnt been spun at all, its a pretty balanced account of how he feels.
 
Mike. said:
The story hasnt been spun at all, its a pretty balanced account of how he feels.
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I feel the title has been spun. It can easily send off the wrong ideas if you haven't read the article and undoubtedly attracts more interest than "Fabregas respects Arsenal", or "Cesc dismisses 'speculation'", which is also what the article shows. I'm not getting wound up at all - I've read the article, and I've taken his quotes to mean what I think they mean. I'm simply pointing out how the Media - whether it be BBC or The Sun/Arsenal or Utd - spin things in order to get more readers. It sounds more dramatic.
 
Joss said:
Of course the world isn't against us. I'm not suggesting it is.. Just that the Media spin things to sell stories and get hits. It's boring.

Why not pick out the sentence that is, for me, the most important: "I am very happy at Arsenal". Nope. Cesc "frustrated" instead of "happy". Vidic wants transfer comes from "I haven't signed a new contract yet", or Rooney saying "I was disappointed to lose the CL final" goes to "Rooney slams Utd season" or something. It's whatever sells and then the article either presents quotes from the Press Association, or an article usually spinning whatever the quotes are.
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They're not spinning it though. It's just the quote they've chosen that they think will sell the most. All the other headlines you said were just deceiving because the article doesn't say those things.
 
Calum said:
[video=youtube;hD1od08DRrc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD1od08DRrc&feature=player_embedded#at=15[/video]
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Great player. Good purchase. (If we get him Ofcourse.)

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A story would be a good example. Rather than "I'm all better now." They would prefer to use something like "Raging fire almost kills women and her baby". I mean, which you would read?
 
Joss said:
I feel the title has been spun. It can easily send off the wrong ideas if you haven't read the article and undoubtedly attracts more interest than "Fabregas respects Arsenal", or "Cesc dismisses 'speculation'", which is also what the article shows. I'm not getting wound up at all - I've read the article, and I've taken his quotes to mean what I think they mean. I'm simply pointing out how the Media - whether it be BBC or The Sun/Arsenal or Utd - spin things in order to get more readers. It sounds more dramatic.
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How was it been spun? its come from his words, frustrated but will not push his way out. you read on and find out more.


RE: bolded, thats why its a headline and not an article. its not like the BBC where the headline is actually nothing to with story itself
 
Joel` said:
They're not spinning it though. It's just the quote they've chosen that they think will sell the most. All the other headlines you said were just deceiving because the article doesn't say those things.
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OK, so Spin's the wrong word (Actually - I didn't say they spun anything in my original post, Mike. took my post to mean that, but anyway) - they've clearly not chosen the focal point of the article; "I am very happy at Arsenal" (for me, at least but I'm biased) in order to drum up more interest. Yes, he says he's frustrated at the lack of trophies - not at Arsenal, specifically, or being at Arsenal - but he also says other stuff.

ANyway - this is boring and the most pointless argument ever.
 
[video=youtube;dJnsTMz4fW4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJnsTMz4fW4[/video]

Shame we can't have both.
 
Calum said:

Answer: Yes​
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90% of Arsenal fans do, I think. 10% don't, and 90% of that group are more vocal, join anti-Wenger groups (Sad, I know) and go on "black scarf protests" which make little difference because the 90% of fans who know what they're talking about just think they look like absolute **** heads.

Amazing how many questions there were at the AST meeting with Ivan Gazidis about "Will Wenger be removed [from the financial side of things/completely]" as if a) Gazidis was really going to say 'Yes' to either of those options even if he was considering it, and b) Is actually considering removing the manager form the financial side of things. As he said, a football club shouldn't and won't work if his job is buy all the players and simply say "Here you go, Arsene - I thought you might like him" and leave no money for Wenger to spend on realistic targets.
 
Arsene should never be forced out by anyone.

Arsene > Silly Fans
 
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