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Jimmer, but why will Alvarez want to join Palermo when he had the chance to join Arsenal? My take is he is part of Inter's first team plan and will play a lot. He wont agree to join Palermo as he has barely played for Inter.
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Arsenal could have signed him for 2 Million.
Young Guns Blog said he wasn't overly impressive while with us, so Wenger wasn't too interested.
Oh maybe. Few rumors that Wenger went to watch him during France Vs Serbia. Dont know how true it is.
I take it he would've watched his performance as a spectator then, since Savic is a Montenegrin international.
Even I was wondering about this. There was reports on City site that Wenger watched him during France Vs Serbia match. No wonder it is City's paper..
Edit: City site means Manchester evening news paper, City tab
Edit2: Stuart Brennan is awful journo..
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Wenger did say that their would be more Transfer movement from him nearer the end of July.
Hardly, it's the 7th of July. Plenty of time.
I'd like to have seen a few new players on the Asia tour though.
Meh, didn't expect anything else but this. It's not Wenger's way to sign people really early into the transfer market.
Doesn't like to pay them a months wages in July especially when they're on alot of money. See's no financial sense in paying a player wages whilst he's not playing for them, kind of makes logical sense.
Wenger typically signs mid-late July if not nick a few in mid August, ^What they said really it's not unusual just appears that way with all the wild speculation with Nasri/Fabregas my only issue would be Wenger waiting so long before addressing Arsenal fans about why Clichy left and the situation at the club that's the only downside to it to be honest.
Wenger typically signs mid-late July if not nick a few in mid August, ^What they said really it's not unusual just appears that way with all the wild speculation with Nasri/Fabregas my only issue would be Wenger waiting so long before addressing Arsenal fans about why Clichy left and the situation at the club that's the only downside to it to be honest.
So the papers keep telling us. I wonder how stupid the journalists from El Mundo Deportivo, etc. felt when Fabregas turned up for training, and then it came out that he only trained separately because of a tight hamstring when they were reporting from mid-May that he wasn't going to turn up to our first training session and would be revealed as a Barca player on Tuesday...
If Utd/Chelsea/City/Inter/whoever don't cough up £25m for Nasri (which is unlikely to happen before the weekend) and if Barca don't cough up £40m for Fabregas (even less likely to happen before the weekend since they need to sell first) then both players will be on the Asia tour I imagine. If nothing else, for the public attraction and merchandising reasons of having one of the best players in the world with the squad.
Gervinho will be with the rest of the squad, then a couple of young players like Ozyakup (no Lansbury due to U21 duty).
The only club that's made any move for foreign-based players since July 1st is City (Savic). We've signed Gervinho (just the announcement to be made) and seem to have several other targets as well. I'd rather wait for quality players than take a gamble in mid-June for an over-priced U21 English player, personally.
You tried and failed to sign Phil Jones
Yes, and as you may have seen - I was rather glad we didn't sign him, because I don't think he was worth it considering the options we already have for his position, at his age =)
except, like with Samba, Cahill he would compliment Verlmaelen and cover the aerial weakness, he is also one of the few defenders comfortable on the ball, even Wenger knew this, hence why he was willing to spend so much on him
I'm not saying he's not a good player, I'm simply saying that I'm glad we didn't sign him because I'd rather give Bartley a chance than what IMO would be a waste of about half our budget.
Not sure Cahill would compliment Vermaelen, I see him as his back-up. Hence why I'd rather have Jagielka/Samba - both more experienced (undoubtedly what we need, not a player who was part of a Bolton capitulation and is the same age as both our current first-choice CBs), neither particularly likely to try anything risky.
I see Cahill, like Vermaelen, as a ball-playing CB to borrow an FM term. Koscielny and Djourou are more like covering CBs, although Kos can also play the Vermaelen role. Samba/Jagielka, although not the quickest, aren't the sort of players to come out of defence ad are both pretty strong in the air (Samba more so).
Depending on who we sign, as we may well go for Cahill, I think we'll set up with Vermaelen and Koscielny/Djourou first choice and then depending on injuries/suspension/opposition, Koscielny will be first choice cover for Vermaelen and to add some aerial prowess, x new CB will step into the RCB slot - no nonsense, covering the area behind Kos. Although again, it depends on the opposition - Koscielny and Djourou were so good for most of the season that Wenger may well see that as the second, or even first choice defensive partnership against most opposition. He's not naive enough to ignore teams who are strong and are likely to score from set-pieces so they won't generally be paired up against say Stoke or Blackburn.
nonetheless, I think the problem with set-pieces isn't individual players being weak in the air, but poor defensive organisation coming from the tactics. It's the set-up, rather than the players at fault IMO.
its a bit of both, It was actually Kolo who so good at your aerial clearances. Whoever comes in (I think Samba is the better option) will start. Bartley isnt close to Jones yet, think Wenger knows that otherwise he wouldnt have even considered 16m
I don't think they will be first choice personally, but we'll see.
He's not as good as him yet, but I think he certainly can be when they both reach their peaks. Bartley has real potential - I've been watching him since I saw him at the FA Youth Cup 3 years ago. Along with Wilshere, Watt and Coquelin - he was one of the outstanding players at that tournament, and has been impressive at every level since.
I'd much rather give him a chance than spend £17m on Jones.
And Wenger's hand was forced. He had to show he meant business in this window, and Liverpool/Utd's interest stepped up as they made offers - the valuation was simply his release clause rather than Wenger saying: "I reckon he's worth about £17m". If he puled out and it became public knowledge, he'd be slammed for being stubborn etc etc.