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I was on Wiki the other day because me and my brother we're arguing about who managed Chelsea when.. Exciting I know.

Anyway, I came across this:

Manager - Games - Win %
Scolari - 36 - 56%
AVB - 35 - 51%

Scolari was sacked with a better win ratio than AVB, that's pretty funny. He also lost less games. :)
 
I was on Wiki the other day because me and my brother we're arguing about who managed Chelsea when.. Exciting I know.

Anyway, I came across this:

Manager - Games - Win %
Scolari - 36 - 56%
AVB - 35 - 51%

Scolari was sacked with a better win ratio than AVB, that's pretty funny. He also lost less games. :)

Scolari also had a squad that was arguably in their prime whilst AVB has an overage and tired squad that dont suit his attacking football philosophy

Plus he wont be sacked after this season, its well known that he and Roman have already started working on the squad for next season where we will be making a major push for all 4 trophies, we will doing a lot of business in the Summer I guarntee you that

Also we are the 6th Richest Football Club in the world, we have seen healthy revenue growth the past year
 
Scolari also had a squad that was arguably in their prime whilst AVB has an overage and tired squad that dont suit his attacking football philosophy

Plus he wont be sacked after this season, its well known that he and Roman have already started working on the squad for next season where we will be making a major push for all 4 trophies, we will doing a lot of business in the Summer I guarntee you that

Also we are the 6th Richest Football Club in the world, we have seen healthy revenue growth the past year

AVBs just **** to be honest. A push for all 4 trophies next year? You don't have the youth for the carling cup, and doubt you can win the premier league next year. However, you probably could do well in your remaining competitions; the FA cup and europa league.

You're the 6th richest club in the world because of your owner, not your revenue.
 
Just **** off out of this thread Tezz your a **** troll. Even if Chelsea are in the Europa league next year it will be one more European comp then what Liverpool will be in. Also look at how great your "king" Kenny is doing before calling AVB ****.
 
AVBs just **** to be honest. A push for all 4 trophies next year? You don't have the youth for the carling cup, and doubt you can win the premier league next year. However, you probably could do well in your remaining competitions; the FA cup and europa league.

You're the 6th richest club in the world because of your owner, not your revenue.

But then, how would AVB be doing if he had spent £100m in the summer? He has an ageing squad that needs a revamp. He's been brought in for the long term to stamp his philosophy on the team, not to come and win everything in his first season.
 
Thanks for that opinion Tezzz. I could bring up how well Liverpool have been doing in those competitions in the past few seasons but I don't want to be THAT guy..
 
AVBs just **** to be honest. A push for all 4 trophies next year? You don't have the youth for the carling cup, and doubt you can win the premier league next year. However, you probably could do well in your remaining competitions; the FA cup and europa league.

You're the 6th richest club in the world because of your owner, not your revenue.

Remind me again how your beloved have been able to spend all these millions in the recent year?? Revinue from you being "a big club with history"???? Erm no, because someone pumped money into your club you ******* wet flannel.
 
AVBs just **** to be honest.

On what basis, pray tell?

A push for all 4 trophies next year? You don't have the youth for the carling cup, and doubt you can win the premier league next year. However, you probably could do well in your remaining competitions; the FA cup and europa league.

Meh, ask most people last year if they thought Spurs would be mounting a serious title bid this season and they'd give you a conclusive no. Chelsea's youth team and young players are improving rapidly - see Piazon, Romeu, Lukaku, Nats Chalobah, Delac, Kalas - and can be supplemented by the first team if needs be.

You're the 6th richest club in the world because of your owner, not your revenue.

...so? The two statements are only slightly related. He stated two facts: revenue has grown, and they're the 6th richest football club in the world. Where the money comes from is irrelevant to his point.
 
Oh god, I miss Scott, he was classy troll. Something like Ben now :P
Tezzz's just ***** at it.
OT:
If Torres continues to produce almost nothing, I expect Chelsea to buy some striker, maybe even Demba Ba. You guy obviously need left winger and playmaker. Maybe even LB ( although you have Bertrand there, whos decent)

Ps. 6th richest club ? Whos before Chelsea on that list ?
 
Oh god, I miss Scott, he was classy troll. Something like Ben now :P
Tezzz's just ***** at it.
OT:
If Torres continues to produce almost nothing, I expect Chelsea to buy some striker, maybe even Demba Ba. You guy obviously need left winger and playmaker. Maybe even LB ( although you have Bertrand there, whos decent)

Ps. 6th richest club ? Whos before Chelsea on that list ?

Im guessing Barca, Mardid, Man Utd, City and AC Milan.
 
Im guessing Barca, Mardid, Man Utd, City and AC Milan.

It's Madrid, Barca, Man U, Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Chelsea, AC Milan, Inter, Liverpool, Schalke. (2010-11)

City are expected to replace Schakle this season.
 
just had a a look at Chelsea's finances on Swiss Ramble, from what I can tell we are still far from our goal but we are on the right track, one-off costs such as Managerial compensation when we sack our managers has made our finances look a worse than it really is

Player wage bill has been cut by 3 percent, this will surely increase this summer if we do a clearout of our squad and get younger,cheaper players like De Bruyne on smaller wage packets

Revenue increase by 20 percent if I am not wrong

Although I think UEFA will not take managerial compensation into account when they judge if we do comply with the FFP rules
 
Well, managerial compensation is part of your yearly expenses after all, I don't think many of your managers get past the year mark :P
 
It's Madrid, Barca, Man U, Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Chelsea, AC Milan, Inter, Liverpool, Schalke. (2010-11)

City are expected to replace Schakle this season.

Bayern Munich are 4th because they develop players mostly rather than buying?
 
Bayern Munich are 4th because they develop players mostly rather than buying?

In Germany the TV rights are shared, so almost all clubs put emphasis into developing their commercial brand, just that Bayern has been the most successful and the most historically acclaimed club in Germany. Bayern buy players more than anyone else in their league (Gomez, Robben, etc). Let me explain:

Revenue comes from many streams; usually separated into 4 distinct categories: Matchday ticket revenue, TV, Radio, Media, and other streams of Broadcasting, revenue from Commercial brand, and lastly Transfers. Of the four, transfers consume the least, especially since for most clubs transfer surpluses are assimilated into the transfer budget and are thus "in play" and is thus usually not counted.

Whether or not funding from a petrol-dollar billionaire extraordinaire influences little upon revenue, and monetary injections from external sources like that usually do not count towards the Delotte Football Money League report. What such people can do, in the last ten or so years, before Financial Fair Play will take effect, is inject money directly into the balances of the club's books without any form of deal, usually in the form of buying high profile players. What these players would do is then bolster the three major categories (broadcasting, matchday, commercial) since there is increased interest from a higher reputation, as is the case with Chelsea, where the influx of players (and to a degree, success) has led to a wide increase in the Chelsea profile, in the form of higher ticket prices, lucrative Premier League TV deals, more sponsors, and more Chelsea products bought.

The problem, then, with such clubs in the modern era of football finance, is that clubs are standing at a precipice between poor financial structuring and to-be-implemented FFP rules. Clubs with increased profile such as Chelsea are far too imbalanced in their financial structuring of revenue streams; too much revenue is derived from Matchday and Broadcasting sources. The main drawback of such an imbalance is increased competition or decreased form, namely a lack of results. When, for example, Champions League football is not secured, much of the matchday and broadcasting revenue streams get reduced for that year. What will eventually happen is that players, which usually are a minor sector, must be offloaded as a counterbalance. In one example, Manchester United stand to lose at least 35 million from crashing early out of the group stage. In another more definite case, Juventus have lost ground in revenue from lack of participation in Europe, and conversely so in the likes of Tottenham and Schalke. Both clubs, in addition to Liverpool, to an extent, derive much of their revenue from commercial gains, which as a sector is less volatile to results as are matchday and broadcasting revenue. Those clubs have become sustainable to the point where lack of European football would not be a major detriment in the medium term to the financial growth of the club, and gaining it would provide additional bonuses across the financial chessboard. Indeed, Schalke remain one of the largest sides in German football despite not winning the Bundesliga since 1958(?).

Of course, there are means to counteract this, especially as billionaires wield affiliates to provide commercial contracts and sponsorship, usually overpaying the base value intentionally, as a method to provide extra income to the club in the commercial stream (see Man City;Etihad Airways). Either way, clubs that do not quickly shift their focus towards commercial revenue will have to either quickly do so, or risk having to enter a vicious cycle of poor results, decreased reputation and player sale. Of course, there will always be methods such as those by Man City, and these will only become more commonplace, especially when clubs are backed into a corner. After all, necessity, not unlimited choice, is the mother of creativity, even in the case of financial football.
 
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In Germany the TV rights are shared, so almost all clubs put emphasis into developing their commercial brand, just that Bayern has been the most successful and the most historically acclaimed club in Germany. Bayern buy players more than anyone else in their league (Gomez, Robben, etc). Let me explain:

Revenue comes from many streams; usually separated into 4 distinct categories: Matchday ticket revenue, TV, Radio, Media, and other streams of Broadcasting, revenue from Commercial brand, and lastly Transfers. Of the four, transfers consume the least, especially since for most clubs transfer surpluses are assimilated into the transfer budget and are thus "in play" and is thus usually not counted.

Whether or not funding from a petrol-dollar billionaire extraordinaire influences little upon revenue, and monetary injections from external sources like that usually do not count towards the Delotte Football Money League report. What such people can do, in the last ten or so years, before Financial Fair Play will take effect, is inject money directly into the balances of the club's books without any form of deal, usually in the form of buying high profile players. What these players would do is then bolster the three major categories (broadcasting, matchday, commercial) since there is increased interest from a higher reputation, as is the case with Chelsea, where the influx of players (and to a degree, success) has led to a wide increase in the Chelsea profile, in the form of higher ticket prices, lucrative Premier League TV deals, more sponsors, and more Chelsea products bought.

The problem, then, with such clubs in the modern era of football finance, is that clubs are standing at a precipice between poor financial structuring and to-be-implemented FFP rules. Clubs with increased profile such as Chelsea are far too imbalanced in their financial structuring of revenue streams; too much revenue is derived from Matchday and Broadcasting sources. The main drawback of such an imbalance is increased competition or decreased form, namely a lack of results. When, for example, Champions League football is not secured, much of the matchday and broadcasting revenue streams get reduced for that year. What will eventually happen is that players, which usually are a minor sector, must be offloaded as a counterbalance. In one example, Manchester United stand to lose at least 35 million from crashing early out of the group stage. In another more definite case, Juventus have lost ground in revenue from lack of participation in Europe, and conversely so in the likes of Tottenham and Schalke. Both clubs, in addition to Liverpool, to an extent, derive much of their revenue from commercial gains, which as a sector is less volatile to results as are matchday and broadcasting revenue. Those clubs have become sustainable to the point where lack of European football would not be a major detriment in the medium term to the financial growth of the club, and gaining it would provide additional bonuses across the financial chessboard. Indeed, Schalke remain one of the largest sides in German football despite not winning the Bundesliga since 1958(?).

Of course, there are means to counteract this, especially as billionaires wield affiliates to provide commercial contracts and sponsorship, usually overpaying the base value intentionally, as a method to provide extra income to the club in the commercial stream (see Man City;Etihad Airways). Either way, clubs that do not quickly shift their focus towards commercial revenue will have to either quickly do so, or risk having to enter a vicious cycle of poor results, decreased reputation and player sale. Of course, there will always be methods such as those by Man City, and these will only become more commonplace, especially when clubs are backed into a corner. After all, necessity, not unlimited choice, is the mother of creativity, even in the case of financial football.


excellent post. Only thing is that United stand to lose a maximum of 17m, since the club only budgets as far as getting through the group stages
 
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Wednesday, 8 February 2012


Income up, costs down - Chelsea getting in shape for FFP

the andersred blog: Income up, costs down - Chelsea getting in shape for FFP

Chelsea have a rather irritating habit of issuing an anodyne press release trumpeting their financial results (this year on 31st January), several days before the real accounts become available at Companies House (today). Normally, the detailed figures hide a whole host of nasties not in the release. This year however, the accounts show real progress in the club's aim to meet UEFA's new Financial Fair Play rules.


Rising income and falling costs - the holy grail of football finance
Football clubs find it incredibly hard not to pass increases in revenue straight on to players, managers and agents in the form of higher staff costs. It is the achilles heal of the financial side of the sport. These results from Chelsea show revenue rising by 8% and pre-exceptional costs falling by 5%, including a 2.6% fall in wages. That is a remarkable achievement. To put it into context, in the last five years there has only been one other occasion when the wage bill at any of the old "big 4", City or Spurs has fallen year-on-year.


Readers who think "oh cutting the wage bill is easy, CFC let loads of old, expensive players go", should remember that United did the same last summer when VDS, Neville, O'Shea, Brown, Hargreaves and Scholes (temporarily) all left, yet we can see from MUFC's Q1 results that wage costs are still up on last year (by 12.2%). The trick is not just offloading players, it is preventing endemic wage inflation amongst the remaining squad, especially when TV money is increasing as it was in 2010/11.


The only cautionary point to make about Chelsea's wage control in these figures is that Fernando Torres and David Luiz will only be in these numbers for six months. On an annualised basis they would add c. £4m to these salary figures (although there have been offsetting cost reductions from the sales of Alex, Anelka etc).


Revenue
Chelsea's revenue (excluding the digital JV) rose £16.5m or 8% in 2010/11. Chelsea unhelpfully do not give the usual "matchday/media/commercial" split other clubs provide. We know from UEFA figures that CFC received £10.3m in CL TV income in 2010/11 vs. 2009/10. We also know from Premier League figures that CFC's receipts from the league rose £4.9m.


Using these PL and UEFA figures, Deloitte's estimated segmental split for last season and adjusting for one fewer home game in 2010/11 vs. 2009/10 and we can get quite a good estimate for the club's segmental revenue performance for 2010/11:




The table above shows quite an encouraging growth in commercial income, especially in difficult economic conditions, although at c. £60m pa, CFC's commercial revenue is far behind that of MUFC (£103m) or Real Madrid (£127m).



Decent revenue growth and tight cost control meant that Chelsea made positive EBITDA (before profit on player sales and exceptionals) for only the second time since Abramovich bought the club (the other occasion was a £1m profit in 2007/08). The c. £4m EBITDA in 2010/11 is not huge (Arsenal made £47m from non-property activities) but being able to cover cash costs (pre-transfers) from earned income is a key first step in achieving financial sustainability, . The contrast with City's £71m EBITDA loss is stark.


Below EBITDA - messy
Unfortunately neither the profit and loss account nor UEFA's FFP "breakeven" calculation finishes at the EBITDA line.


On the plus side, Chelsea made a profit on player sales of £18.4m, boosting EBITDA to £22.4m. After that, things get worse quite fast.


Chelsea are still hampered by a very significant amortisation charge (the way transfers spending is recognised across the life of a player's contract). This charge has fallen in recent years, something that is key for meeting FFP, reflecting a reining back of the very aggressive transfer spending of the early Abramovich years. The charge rose in 2010/11 however, and this rise only includes six months of amortisation from the c. £75m spent on Torres and Luiz in the January 2011 transfer window (see chart below):




At around £40-45m, the amortisation charge nowhere close to being covered by EBITDA. Once depreciation is added too, the club made on operating (EBIT) loss of £26m (inc player sales), a loss but a great improvement on last year's £71m.


Exceptionals (again)
In the last four years, CFC have reported "exceptional" costs relating to firing their manager on no less than three occasions. Nothing very exceptional there.... In 2010/11 there were £41.9m of exceptional charges. These split as follows:


Termination of Ancellotti + back room staff contracts/compensation to Porto for AVB: £28m
Impairment of player registrations: £7.4m
Payments to HMRC for unpaid NI on "image rights": £6.4m


Now these costs are individually "one-off" in nature, but Chelsea's managerial merry go round has cost the club no less than £64m in compensation to various parties over the last four years. That is equivalent to 25% of the club's matchday revenue over that period, a staggering waste.


Adding the exceptional charge, a small interest bill and the share of profit from the media JV takes the £26m EBIT loss to a pre-tax loss of £67.4m. Ignore the exceptionals and the loss would be £25.6m. This compares to £70.4m in 2009/10. There is definite progress being made.


Cash flow and Roman's support
With £34.3m of the £41.9m of exceptional charges being real cash payments (the impairment is a non-cash charge), Chelsea's operating cash flow was weak in 2010/11, with an cash outflow before investment of £5.5m, but this is still an improvement on 2009/10, reflecting the far better underlying EBITDA performance and strong working capital inflows.




In 2009/10, Chelsea had negative net cash transfer spend. That all changed of course in January 2011 with the (panic?) purchases of Torres and Luiz. These accounts show £112m of "intangible asset" additions on the balance sheet and a gross cash spend of £85m. As I have explained before on this blog, cash flows from transfers are very volatile but the pattern is clear. Chelsea are spending again (at least for now).


Even adding in £24m from player sales, the accounts show net cash spending on transfers of £60.6m. Add in capex and there is a £72m cash outflow before financing. This hole is filled as it is every year by loans from Abramovich's parent company Fordstam Limited. In the past, such loans are converted to equity after a while and no doubt the same will happen again.


Some FFP maths
So how close are Chelsea to meeting the FFP rules? On the assumption that UEFA ignores exceptional items (and I believe it is reasonable to make that assumption, especially in the early years of the new rules), the club has made good progress.


I have assumed that within Chelsea's cost base is c. £8m of spending on youth development and c. £1m of spending on community development. These items are effectively "deductible" under FFP.




The table above shows that based on these assumptions about spending on youth and community activities, Chelsea have closed their "break-even" deficit quite substantially over the last three seasons. Revenue is up and costs are down. This calculation is before any player wages based on pre-June 2010 contracts are excluded under the Annex XI exemption, which will reduce the loss further.


Most big clubs should be able to generate profits on player sales (academy products have zero "book cost"). Assuming Chelsea can match the £18.4m profit achieved in 2010/11, the core deficit is only around £8m. That is well within the the €45m (c. £38m) allowable loss over the first two years of the new rules.


As discussed above, the main risk to this happy position is a big rise in the amortisation charge (i.e. a further splurge of transfer spending). Five years ago the amortisation charge was £70m. A return to that level would blow a big hole in the FFP calculation.


The other, ever present, risk if of course that the club will abandon it's cost control in an attempt to stay competitive on the pitch. I have written before how "six into four doesn't go" when it comes to Champions League places. Chelsea can only meet FFP with the sort of squad cost they have now by being in the Champions League. The stakes are high.


Concluding thoughts
Ignoring the exceptional charges (and Chelsea will pray UEFA do just that), these are impressive figures. To continue to meet FFP and to ween the club off Abramovich's cash, Chelsea will need to repeat the trick of holding down wages whilst achieving top four finishes. That is no easy task when every other club's wage bill is rising and when the squad needs a significant overhaul.


The other long-term option of course is boosting matchday income from the current c. £65m pa to an Emirates Stadium like £90-100m. Maybe Nine Elms/Olympia/Earls Court etc is the answer.
 
Everton: Howard; Neville, Heitinga, Distin, Baines; Donovan, Gibson, Fellaini, Pienaar; Cahill; Stracqualursi. Subs: Mucha, Hibbert, Drenthe, Gueye, Barkley, Vellios, Duffy.
Chelsea: Cech; Bosingwa, Luiz, Ivanovic, Cole; Meireles, Essien, Lampard; Sturridge, Torres, Mata. Subs: Turnbull, Mikel, Malouda, Lukaku, Ferreira, Cahill, Bertrand.


So 4-3-3 for us and presumably 4-4-1-1 for them.

Points of interest:
Everton are basically playing a pair of holding midfielders which should make for an interesting matchup vs Meireles and Lampard.
- Essien has the job of keeping Cahill quiet, which shouldn't be too taxing given his mediocre form this season.
- You'd expect to once again see our attack confined to the flanks though, which is depressing.
- Sturridge is up against Baines so I dare say that he may struggle a little. The most important thing is that he tracks back, overwise Baines and Pienaar are going to have space on the left to cross the ball to their dangerous target man, Stracqualursi.
- If Sturridge is lax is his defensive duties, Moyes has the option of bringing the lightning fast Drenthe on, which will would be a nightmare for Bosingwa.
- Mata is up against Neville so he should have a fair bit of freedom.
- Gary Cahill starts the game on the bench. Either AVB feels that the partnership of Cahill and Luiz is not a good one at the moment, or we're going to eschew playing a high line.
- The Guardian still uses semi colons in their team sheets even though they're not complicated lists.
 
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