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GodCubed said:
Why? Malouda's been a top-quality player in the Premiership for half a decade now.
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Mainly the fact that he was told he isnt in the first team plans and still refused to leave. He is more intrested in his pay check than winning silverware and playing games. Sure hes entitled to see out his contract as Chelsea gave him that deal he should be allowed to see it out.

Call me old fashioned but I would rather have a good player who plays for the love of the game rather than the love of a pay cheque...
 
Steve* said:
Mainly the fact that he was told he isnt in the first team plans and still refused to leave. He is more intrested in his pay check than winning silverware and playing games. Sure hes entitled to see out his contract as Chelsea gave him that deal he should be allowed to see it out.

Call me old fashioned but I would rather have a good player who plays for the love of the game rather than the love of a pay cheque...
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He has titles, he has trophies. He also has a charity that profits from his very high wages. He's earned a relaxing final pay day. Something lots of other people do in their final years in other levels of high business.
 
Mike. said:
He has titles, he has trophies. He also has a charity that profits from his very high wages. He's earned a relaxing final pay day. Something lots of other people do in their final years in other levels of high business.
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Ah yes, but the fact is he would rather sit in the reserves now on his deal than sign for another team frustrates me. It shows how much football has changed in the past 15-20 years. Before a player was a footballer becuse he loved the game, not because it was a good chance of making money.
 
Steve* said:
Ah yes, but the fact is he would rather sit in the reserves now on his deal than sign for another team frustrates me. It shows how much football has changed in the past 15-20 years. Before a player was a footballer becuse he loved the game, not because it was a good chance of making money.
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He's had the love of the game for well over ten years. Why must he go play for another year, just to satisfy someone elses notion of what a footballer is?
 
Steve* said:
Mainly the fact that he was told he isnt in the first team plans and still refused to leave. He is more intrested in his pay check than winning silverware and playing games. Sure hes entitled to see out his contract as Chelsea gave him that deal he should be allowed to see it out.

Call me old fashioned but I would rather have a good player who plays for the love of the game rather than the love of a pay cheque...
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There's an exchange involved in every footballer's contract. A club hands over copious amounts of money for the right to call upon a player to play for them. If they choose not to play him, I don't see why that makes the player greedy.

Malouda's at an age now where he's not too likely to be winning major silverware with the kind of options available to him (and, for that matter, has already won enough to fill a cabinet or two) and has bigger things on his mind than playing games. He has a charity to support, after all. Nobody should be vilified for seeing out a contract. ****, Moustapha Salifou made four appearances in as many years taking pay from Aston Villa, does that make him a terrible villain that everyone should hate?

Call me new-fangled, but I would rather have a better player who plays for a paycheque than a good one who plays for the love of the club or some bullshit like that.
 
Mike. said:
He's had the love of the game for well over ten years. Why must he go play for another year, just to satisfy someone elses notion of what a footballer is?
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Has he really? I seem to recall him rejecting other offers a few years ago purely because Chelsea offered him a bumper contract?

I dont disagree with him staying at chelsea, if it was that financially profitable i doubt many would act that differently. My cause for concern is that society and footballers as a whole seem to think more about their wallets nowadays than actually doing what there passionate about.
 
Steve* said:
Has he really? I seem to recall him rejecting other offers a few years ago purely because Chelsea offered him a bumper contract?

I dont disagree with him staying at chelsea, if it was that financially profitable i doubt many would act that differently. My cause for concern is that society and footballers as a whole seem to think more about their wallets nowadays than actually doing what there passionate about.
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Tbf we need to think about our wallets due to economies imploding and jobs disappearing. Have to think about supporting families, and preparing for the future. Footballers have a short career too, so if providing for a charity, and supporting a family, I think he's doing nothing wrong.
 
Steve* said:
Has he really? I seem to recall him rejecting other offers a few years ago purely because Chelsea offered him a bumper contract?

I dont disagree with him staying at chelsea, if it was that financially profitable i doubt many would act that differently. My cause for concern is that society and footballers as a whole seem to think more about their wallets nowadays than actually doing what there passionate about.
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Last time i checked you could love the game and still be paid well. You can still be passionate and paid well. There is no cause for concern. Footballers are allowed to think about other things just as much as any other person in society.
 
Steve* said:
Ah yes, but the fact is he would rather sit in the reserves now on his deal than sign for another team frustrates me. It shows how much football has changed in the past 15-20 years. Before a player was a footballer becuse he loved the game, not because it was a good chance of making money.
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So what?

Mike. just said it best with his last line:

Mike. said:
He's had the love of the game for well over ten years. Why must he go play for another year, just to satisfy someone elses notion of what a footballer is?
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Why does someone who apparently 'loves the game' deserve higher praise or more of a break than someone who does it for a job? Should we vilify accountants who do it for a job rather than because they really, really love accounting?

As football becomes more monetised, yes, more players do it for a job, but why the **** is that a bad thing? Didier Drogba grew up relatively poor, being sent to live with his uncle in France. Is he a bad person for wanting to improve his life and using his talent for football as a way to do that?

What you're doing is projecting what you think - despite being nowhere near their position and not being able to fathom how this kind of thing works, in addition to actually not knowing anything about what goes on behind the scenes at Chelsea and to just what extent Malouda has been 'rejecting' deals - footballers should be onto Malouda, and then getting annoyed when he does the logical thing rather than the one you want.
 
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I dont ecpect people to agree with me as everybody is entitled to their opinion. I dont claim to be right.

I really would prefer an average player who plays his heart and sould out for the club because hes passionate for the sport rather than a better player who plays for financial gain.

However I do agree Chelsea have handled this wrong and Malouda is entitled to do what he wants especially as he is now been outcast.
 
Steve* said:
I dont ecpect people to agree with me as everybody is entitled to their opinion. I dont claim to be right.

I really would prefer an average player who plays his heart and sould out for the club because hes passionate for the sport rather than a better player who plays for financial gain.

However I do agree Chelsea have handled this wrong and Malouda is entitled to do what he wants especially as he is now been outcast.
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How you do know he isn't passionate? because he isn't flogging himself because you think he should?
 
GodCubed said:
So what?
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Well comparing accountants to footballers is wrong.
For the point is, footballers are role models. Kids look at footballers and their reactions and attitude influence them. That has become more evident over the past few years and it is more important to be a good role model.

If you have kids would you encourage thm to follow monetary gain or follow their dreams? That is another spin on it. Do what your passionate about, if your not passionate for it, go and find something else that drives and inspires you
 
Mike. said:
How you do know he isn't passionate? because he isn't flogging himself because you think he should?
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The fact he has been offered the chance to play regularly and turned it down because nobody would match his wages
 
ajt09 said:
Not.....the rolemodel.....debate :@
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Shhhhhhhhhh you. lol

Weather players want to be role models or not they have to be considering their publicity and exposure to the media.

If they didnt want to be rold models they shouldnt sign advertising deals to influence people (mainly youths) to buy a paticular product
 
Steve* said:
Shhhhhhhhhh you. lol

Weather players want to be role models or not they have to be considering their publicity and exposure to the media.

If they didnt want to be rold models they shouldnt sign advertising deals to influence people (mainly youths) to buy a paticular product
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No. The role model argument is such bollocks. Its a complete double standard lazy nonsensical idea. go and watch fans at football game, and then tell me players should be better role models.
 
There's times where I wonder if the parents should even be role models after seeing some highlights......
 
Steve* said:
Well comparing accountants to footballers is wrong.
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Why? I'm comparing them in job-based situations. Both are jobs. I could have used any other job in the world: physicist, doctor, street sweeper, binman, a ****** prostitute. My point still stands.

For the point is, footballers are role models. Kids look at footballers and their reactions and attitude influence them. That has become more evident over the past few years and it is more important to be a good role model.

If you have kids would you encourage thm to follow monetary gain or follow their dreams? That is another spin on it. Do what your passionate about, if your not passionate for it, go and find something else that drives and inspires you
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If I had kids, I'd encourage them to be realistic. Follow your dreams, sure, but when someone offers you 80k a week you don't decide to up and leave due to some misplaced sense of 'morals' or somesuch outdated cliche bullshit.
 
Steve* said:
The fact he has been offered the chance to play regularly and turned it down because nobody would match his wages
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Oh really. You must have irrefutable facts from a veritable and cross-checkable source to be so adamant, surely?
 
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